#bitcoin-wizards on 2016-07-27 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2015-10-30 00:53 sipa changed the topic of #bitcoin-wizards to: This channel is for discussing theoretical ideas with regard to cryptocurrencies, not about short-term Bitcoin development | http://bitcoin.ninja/ | This channel is logged. | For logs and more information, visit http://bitcoin.ninja

00:00 BashCo has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]

00:04 BashCo has joined #bitcoin-wizards

00:07 tromp_ has joined #bitcoin-wizards

00:09 tromp_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

00:10 tromp_ has joined #bitcoin-wizards

00:14 belcher has quit [Quit: Leaving]

00:19 roidster has joined #bitcoin-wizards

00:19 roidster is now known as Guest19449

00:21 Guest19449 is now known as roidster

00:21 cyphase has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]

00:23 <bsm1175321> JackH: I think the idea is a very good one, in the sidechains model: each chain is a light client towards the other. But alas that's not what they're doing.

00:24 <bsm1175321> If you read my probing this morning, there are still a lot of unsolved "light client" problems on Bitcoin. (UTXO set commitments, fraud proofs, etc)

00:25 <bsm1175321> I have no idea why anyone would "trust" that someone else's ledger is internally consistent, and then put funds on it. That just doesn't make any sense at all. It's what makes fractional reserve a la Mt. Gox so easy to pull off.

00:26 cyphase has joined #bitcoin-wizards

00:28 c0rw1n has joined #bitcoin-wizards

00:32 Pr0t3us has joined #bitcoin-wizards

00:37 tromp_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

00:41 Burrito has quit [Quit: Leaving]

00:43 roidster has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [SeaMonkey 2.39/20151103191810]]

00:51 tromp_ has joined #bitcoin-wizards

01:05 Ylbam has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity]

01:08 StephenM347 has joined #bitcoin-wizards

01:09 tromp_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

01:11 tromp_ has joined #bitcoin-wizards

01:13 StephenM347 has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]

01:16 thesnark has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

01:17 StephenM347 has joined #bitcoin-wizards

01:30 markus-k_ has joined #bitcoin-wizards

01:31 CrazyTruthYakDDS has joined #bitcoin-wizards

01:31 tromp_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

01:34 markus-k has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]

01:36 Nightwolf has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]

01:38 Nightwolf has joined #bitcoin-wizards

01:41 N0S4A2 has joined #bitcoin-wizards

01:45 tromp_ has joined #bitcoin-wizards

01:49 laurentmt has quit [Quit: laurentmt]

01:50 StephenM_ has joined #bitcoin-wizards

01:53 StephenM347 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]

02:00 justanotheruser has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]

02:05 mdavid613 has quit [Quit: Leaving.]

02:05 StephenM347 has joined #bitcoin-wizards

02:05 blozo_ has quit []

02:05 justanotheruser has joined #bitcoin-wizards

02:07 pro has quit [Quit: Leaving]

02:08 StephenM_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

02:28 chjj_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]

02:29 zooko has joined #bitcoin-wizards

02:41 chjj_ has joined #bitcoin-wizards

02:50 StephenM_ has joined #bitcoin-wizards

02:53 StephenM347 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]

02:56 rusty2 has joined #bitcoin-wizards

03:08 StephenM_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]

03:23 jtimon has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]

04:02 CaptChadd has joined #bitcoin-wizards

04:03 CaptChadd has left #bitcoin-wizards [#bitcoin-wizards]

04:06 antanst has joined #bitcoin-wizards

04:17 Alopex has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

04:20 Alopex has joined #bitcoin-wizards

04:21 rusty2 has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]

04:21 CrazyTruthYakDDS has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity]

04:26 markus-k_ has quit [Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…]

04:28 Alopex has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

04:30 Alopex has joined #bitcoin-wizards

04:46 Alopex has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

04:48 Alopex has joined #bitcoin-wizards

05:00 ThomasV has joined #bitcoin-wizards

05:07 morcos has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]

05:08 zxzzt has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds]

05:10 zxzzt has joined #bitcoin-wizards

05:12 zooko has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]

05:16 ThomasV has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]

05:23 morcos has joined #bitcoin-wizards

05:26 byteflame has joined #bitcoin-wizards

05:28 byteflame has quit [Client Quit]

05:29 byteflame has joined #bitcoin-wizards

05:30 tromp_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

05:32 Alopex has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

05:34 Alopex has joined #bitcoin-wizards

05:37 byteflame has quit [Quit: leaving]

05:37 contrapumpkin has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…]

05:37 byteflame has joined #bitcoin-wizards

05:41 ThomasV has joined #bitcoin-wizards

05:57 ThomasV has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds]

06:07 byteflame has quit [Quit: leaving]

06:07 byteflame has joined #bitcoin-wizards

06:09 byteflame has quit [Client Quit]

06:09 byteflame has joined #bitcoin-wizards

06:10 adiabat has joined #bitcoin-wizards

06:11 byteflame has quit [Client Quit]

06:11 byteflame has joined #bitcoin-wizards

06:16 byteflame has quit [Client Quit]

06:16 byteflame has joined #bitcoin-wizards

06:30 tromp_ has joined #bitcoin-wizards

06:34 Aranjedeath has quit [Quit: Three sheets to the wind]

06:34 tromp_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

06:35 BashCo has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

06:44 ThomasV has joined #bitcoin-wizards

06:44 cyphase has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]

06:49 cyphase has joined #bitcoin-wizards

06:51 lmatteis has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]

06:52 jl2012 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]

06:52 ThomasV has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]

06:53 jl2012 has joined #bitcoin-wizards

06:53 ThomasV has joined #bitcoin-wizards

06:54 lmatteis has joined #bitcoin-wizards

07:03 BashCo has joined #bitcoin-wizards

07:05 Alopex has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

07:07 Alopex has joined #bitcoin-wizards

07:17 Guyver2 has joined #bitcoin-wizards

07:31 Ylbam has joined #bitcoin-wizards

07:35 dgenr8 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]

07:35 dgenr8 has joined #bitcoin-wizards

07:35 Logicwax has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

07:36 Pr0t3us has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds]

07:36 r0ach has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]

07:36 aalex_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]

07:36 r0ach has joined #bitcoin-wizards

07:36 lmatteis has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]

07:37 kanzure has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

07:37 lmatteis has joined #bitcoin-wizards

07:38 jrayhawk has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

07:38 bsm1175321 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

07:38 kanzure has joined #bitcoin-wizards

07:38 jrayhawk has joined #bitcoin-wizards

07:38 jrayhawk has quit [Changing host]

07:38 jrayhawk has joined #bitcoin-wizards

07:39 Logicwax has joined #bitcoin-wizards

07:40 aalex_ has joined #bitcoin-wizards

07:41 bsm1175321 has joined #bitcoin-wizards

07:41 dnaleor has quit [Quit: Leaving]

07:46 cyphase has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]

07:47 ThomasV has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]

07:50 TheSeven has quit [Disconnected by services]

07:50 [7] has joined #bitcoin-wizards

07:51 cyphase has joined #bitcoin-wizards

08:06 Logicwax has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

08:10 kanzure has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

08:10 Keefe has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

08:11 Logicwax has joined #bitcoin-wizards

08:11 kanzure has joined #bitcoin-wizards

08:11 Keefe has joined #bitcoin-wizards

08:15 b-itcoinssg has joined #bitcoin-wizards

08:21 Pr0t3us has joined #bitcoin-wizards

08:31 tromp_ has joined #bitcoin-wizards

08:31 Guyver2 has quit [Quit: :)]

08:31 aalex_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]

08:35 aalex_ has joined #bitcoin-wizards

08:35 tromp_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]

08:40 aalex_ has quit [Max SendQ exceeded]

08:41 aalex_ has joined #bitcoin-wizards

09:01 aalex_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]

09:04 aalex_ has joined #bitcoin-wizards

09:13 mkarrer has joined #bitcoin-wizards

09:14 laurentmt has joined #bitcoin-wizards

09:14 laurentmt has quit [Client Quit]

09:16 mkarrer_ has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]

09:19 hazirafel has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds]

09:31 tromp_ has joined #bitcoin-wizards

09:33 Giszmo has joined #bitcoin-wizards

09:35 hazirafel has joined #bitcoin-wizards

09:36 tromp_ has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]

09:42 mkarrer has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

09:43 mkarrer has joined #bitcoin-wizards

10:08 bildramer has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds]

10:12 bildramer has joined #bitcoin-wizards

10:25 rusty2 has joined #bitcoin-wizards

10:32 ThomasV has joined #bitcoin-wizards

10:42 pro has joined #bitcoin-wizards

10:49 rusty2 has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]

10:57 superkuh has quit [Quit: putting in more ram.]

11:03 BashCo_ has joined #bitcoin-wizards

11:07 BashCo has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]

11:09 antanst1 has joined #bitcoin-wizards

11:11 antanst has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]

11:11 antanst1 is now known as antanst

11:15 bildramer has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]

11:18 ThomasV has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds]

11:21 bildramer has joined #bitcoin-wizards

11:46 hazirafel has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]

11:57 laurentmt has joined #bitcoin-wizards

12:13 Giszmo has quit [Quit: Leaving.]

12:20 zooko has joined #bitcoin-wizards

12:28 King_Rex has joined #bitcoin-wizards

12:30 byteflame has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]

12:35 ThomasV has joined #bitcoin-wizards

12:37 Chris_Stewart_5 has joined #bitcoin-wizards

12:41 Chris_Stewart_5 has quit [Client Quit]

12:51 Pr0t3us has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

13:00 Chris_Stewart_5 has joined #bitcoin-wizards

13:03 tromp_ has joined #bitcoin-wizards

13:04 Guyver2 has joined #bitcoin-wizards

13:08 tromp_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]

13:26 byteflame has joined #bitcoin-wizards

13:34 markus-k has joined #bitcoin-wizards

13:35 markus-k has quit [Client Quit]

13:42 YOU-JI has joined #bitcoin-wizards

13:43 jtimon has joined #bitcoin-wizards

13:46 hashtag_ has joined #bitcoin-wizards

14:03 ruby32 has joined #bitcoin-wizards

14:05 Burrito has joined #bitcoin-wizards

14:07 Chris_Stewart_5 has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]

14:09 YOU-JI has quit [Quit: Leaving...]

14:21 Chris_Stewart_5 has joined #bitcoin-wizards

14:35 tromp_ has joined #bitcoin-wizards

14:38 ThomasV has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

14:40 tromp_ has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]

14:41 edvorg has joined #bitcoin-wizards

14:44 edvorg has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

14:44 laurentmt has quit [Quit: laurentmt]

14:47 edvorg has joined #bitcoin-wizards

14:47 thepumpernickle1 has joined #bitcoin-wizards

14:50 thepumpernickle1 is now known as eighteightyperce

14:59 zooko has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]

15:00 laurentmt has joined #bitcoin-wizards

15:00 laurentmt has quit [Client Quit]

15:00 cyphase has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]

15:05 cyphase has joined #bitcoin-wizards

15:16 antanst has quit [Quit: antanst]

15:17 Chris_Stewart_5 has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]

15:33 murch has joined #bitcoin-wizards

15:39 Chris_Stewart_5 has joined #bitcoin-wizards

15:47 Chris_Stewart_5 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

15:47 Chris_Stewart_5 has joined #bitcoin-wizards

15:52 b-itcoinssg has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity]

15:52 Aranjedeath has joined #bitcoin-wizards

16:05 Cory has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]

16:05 markus-k has joined #bitcoin-wizards

16:05 ThomasV has joined #bitcoin-wizards

16:08 murch has quit [Quit: Leaving.]

16:12 MrHodl has joined #bitcoin-wizards

16:14 mdavid613 has joined #bitcoin-wizards

16:17 Chris_Stewart_5 has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds]

16:33 Chris_Stewart_5 has joined #bitcoin-wizards

16:34 Cory has joined #bitcoin-wizards

16:36 tromp_ has joined #bitcoin-wizards

16:40 netzin has joined #bitcoin-wizards

16:41 tromp_ has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]

16:43 slackircbridge1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]

16:43 slackircbridge has joined #bitcoin-wizards

16:45 mdavid613 has quit [Quit: Leaving.]

16:49 mdavid613 has joined #bitcoin-wizards

16:51 antanst has joined #bitcoin-wizards

16:52 laurentmt has joined #bitcoin-wizards

16:52 laurentmt has quit [Client Quit]

16:54 c0rw1n has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]

16:55 c0rw1n has joined #bitcoin-wizards

16:56 Cory has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]

17:16 Cory has joined #bitcoin-wizards

17:25 edvorg has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

17:27 edvorg has joined #bitcoin-wizards

17:33 aalex__ has joined #bitcoin-wizards

17:34 aalex_ has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]

17:43 edvorg has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]

17:44 jtimon has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]

17:48 netzin has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

18:01 netzin has joined #bitcoin-wizards

18:07 jtimon has joined #bitcoin-wizards

18:12 giel__ has quit [Quit: Leaving]

18:25 priidu has joined #bitcoin-wizards

18:31 jannes has quit [Quit: Leaving]

18:39 blackwraith has joined #bitcoin-wizards

18:40 priidu has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

18:45 laurentmt has joined #bitcoin-wizards

18:45 laurentmt has quit [Client Quit]

18:46 ThomasV has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]

19:05 OxADADA has left #bitcoin-wizards [#bitcoin-wizards]

19:09 OxADADA has joined #bitcoin-wizards

19:17 thepumpernickle1 has joined #bitcoin-wizards

19:21 eighteightyperce has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds]

20:02 ThomasV has joined #bitcoin-wizards

20:19 dEBRUYNE has joined #bitcoin-wizards

20:28 ThomasV has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]

20:36 Chris_Stewart_5 has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

20:38 tromp_ has joined #bitcoin-wizards

20:42 tromp_ has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]

20:44 dEBRUYNE has quit [Quit: Leaving]

20:56 ruby32 has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

21:08 Iriez has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

21:08 BashCo_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

21:23 droark has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]

21:25 BashCo has joined #bitcoin-wizards

21:30 byteflame has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]

21:35 belcher has joined #bitcoin-wizards

21:40 ruby32 has joined #bitcoin-wizards

21:41 antanst has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]

21:44 blackwraith has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]

21:57 byteflame has joined #bitcoin-wizards

22:00 ruby32 has quit [Remote host closed the connection]

22:09 copumpkin has joined #bitcoin-wizards

22:13 Guyver2 has quit [Quit: :)]

22:14 ruby32 has joined #bitcoin-wizards

22:29 thesnark has joined #bitcoin-wizards

22:37 Chris_Stewart_5 has joined #bitcoin-wizards

22:39 tromp_ has joined #bitcoin-wizards

22:43 tromp_ has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]

22:52 byteflame has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]

23:01 c0rw1n has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]

23:06 c0rw1n has joined #bitcoin-wizards

23:13 Emcy has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds]

23:15 markus-k has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds]

23:16 markus-k has joined #bitcoin-wizards

23:42 dnaleor has joined #bitcoin-wizards

23:44 bitcoin-wizards8 has joined #bitcoin-wizards

23:46 bitcoin-wizards8 has quit [Client Quit]

23:46 thepumpernickle1 has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]

23:46 thepumpernickle1 has joined #bitcoin-wizards

23:51 tromp_ has joined #bitcoin-wizards

23:54 priidu has joined #bitcoin-wizards

23:55 netzin has quit [Remote host closed the connection]