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<stevenroose>
kanzure, they are not single letter variable names, they are the characters that are widely used for them in cryptographic literature
<kanzure>
that's not a good excuse
<kanzure>
math literature has a lot of crimes against humanity to answer for, including single-letter variable names and dead language variable names
* nsh
smiles
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<stevenroose>
kanzure, well, they are almost never actually used as variables, though
<nsh>
when we rework the entire mathematical canon in agile camelcase literate semver ontologies everything is going to be pretty peachy
<kanzure>
i hate camelcase but even camelcase would be an improvement
<nsh>
i'm suggesting that programmers have a lot more to learn about rigour and mutual comprehensibility from mathematicians than vice versa :)
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<nsh>
.wik Gadget (computer science)
<yoleaux>
"In computational complexity theory, a gadget is a subset of a problem instance that simulates the behavior of one of the fundamental units of a different computational problem." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gadget_(computer_science)
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<nsh>
combinatoric mathematics has a kind of currency exchange system that's based on the equivalence of short 'script'-based solutions to global property determinations. that should be an interesting thing to think about for folks here maybe i don't know
<gwillen>
rusty: so when it says 'a year' is the timeout for a version bit -- is that actually measured in realtime or in blocks
<rusty>
gwillen: realtime, aka GetMedian
<gwillen>
oh, I just answered my own actual question -- even if it's realtime, it's using block timestamps, not local clocks, of course
<gwillen>
so there's no risk of disagreement
<rusty>
Yeah, I didn't want the post buried in minutia.
* gwillen
nods
<rusty>
Though, I was pedantic about the bits having semantics as soon as the start date is reached, not at the next period start as bitcoin-core sets them.
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<gwillen>
right, that makes sense.
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<bsm1175321>
(08:35:59 PM) nsh: when we rework the entire mathematical canon in agile camelcase literate semver ontologies everything is going to be pretty peachy
<bsm1175321>
That's going in my quote book.
<bsm1175321>
my own field (physics) is as much to blame. You all know that sigma is the cross section. Oh also the areal charge density. And tau is proper time. Or the tau meson. You know, it's all clear.
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<bsm1175321>
I actually have an extensive glossary in my current bitcoin paper, and haven't assumed anything about common notation...this field is to nascent.
<bsm1175321>
What's the right symbol for: global hashrate? target difficulty? average inter-node latency? Number of coins (as a unit)?
<bsm1175321>
Things that must appear in every serious paper in this space...
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<nsh>
good questions, bsm1175321
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<nsh>
'In structural complexity theory, the Berman–Hartmanis conjecture is an unsolved conjecture named after Leonard C. Berman and Juris Hartmanis that states that all NP-complete languages look alike, in the sense that they can be related to each other by polynomial time isomorphisms.[1][2][3][4]'
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<Taek>
maaku: I had thought flexcap was just Maxwell's higher difficulty proposal, but I see now that there's a whole category of flexible blocksize proposals.
<Taek>
I don't think that a higher difficulty makes as much sense because that requires spinning up more hashrate, which a miner may not be able to do on short notice. Destroying coins is much easier.
<kanzure>
besides the sidechain whitepaper, what's another paper or two about sidechain-like things?
<kanzure>
also, has someone done an economic/finance-oriented perspective on the topic yet?
<pigeons>
petertodd's tree chains are sidechain-like in a way
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<pigeons>
oh the freimarkets paper has the whole tag thing
* nsh
nods
<kanzure>
hrm apparently nobody has mentioned "different monetary policies can be implemented in sidechains" in a paper yet. oops.
<pigeons>
look in papers about atomic cross-chain swaps too?
<kanzure>
oh that might work
<kanzure>
hrm which ones?
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<pigeons>
by different monetary policeis you mean like demurrage, interest, different subdisdy emission rates? seems self-evident different chains would have those differences and i dont know any ACCS papers but still come back to freimarkets for a paper exploring that
<kanzure>
"self-evident" yes but not to everyone hehe
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<proslogion>
Can you compress a PCP proof with MAST?
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<maaku>
Taek: you don't have to spin up more hash power, you just wait longer for a block
<maaku>
it's an uninteresting point regardless, adjusting subsidy is preferable for weird incentive reasons
<maaku>
pigeons: those papers share authorship ;)
<maaku>
i don't know anyone else who is thinking about different monetary policies
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<nsh>
this one weird incentive reason will shock you
<nsh>
wait until you see game-theoretical scenario 8!!
<gwillen>
I don't see the actual punchline immediately on the page there, which is "find a separating hyperplane with this one weird kernel trick"
<nsh>
' When Pennsylvania machine learning practitioners use this trick many are shocked at the results they find. Most just cannot believe that their test set accuracies are real, but the truth is that it is now easy to learn separating hyperplanes with this one weird trick. '