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<anunnaki>
hey if one is going to cross compile a kernel for arm, what would be the step after patching the kernel? i patched linux 2.6.20 and tried running my compiler on the the entire directory but gave me a message it couldnt because its a directory
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<Gumboot>
anunnaki: You tried to do what, exactly?
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<anunnaki>
all i did so far was applied the patches to it. left the patched files in the directory with it. usually if i were using it for my own machine i would link it to /usr/src/linux but since its for another device im wondering what do i do now
<Gumboot>
Normally you cd into that directory and type `make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabihf- uImage` or similar.
<Gumboot>
But you can use them with -R to un-patch them.
<anunnaki>
good i want to tidy it up :)
<Gumboot>
Saves you deleting the tree and starting again if you decide one of them was a bad idea.
<anunnaki>
id just redownload them if somethign didnt work.
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<anunnaki>
but the config file was named dot-config. so what do i name it to now?
<Gumboot>
.config
<Gumboot>
Then I think you need to do `make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabihf- oldconfig` to make sure it's fit for use.
<Gumboot>
It might ask you some questions.
<anunnaki>
ok because i was confused by the fist line inside the file "automatically genereated make config: dont edit" so i figured it was a "make" file
<Gumboot>
It's a configuration for the makefiles, I guess.
<Gumboot>
It might not be. It's full of a bunch of lines "XYZ_FOO=y", right?
<anunnaki>
it came with the patches i think
<anunnaki>
yes
<Gumboot>
Then rename it to .config and leave it in the root of the kernel source tree.
<anunnaki>
config_arm=y
<Gumboot>
That's an important one.
<anunnaki>
if only there was a comment that said. "#rename this to .config and place in / :)" i wouldve had this done a week ago
<Gumboot>
You don't know that, yet.
<Gumboot>
Chances are there'll be a build error.
<anunnaki>
oh well ill just try and try again
<anunnaki>
way too many patches to type to delete ill jus tleave em
<Gumboot>
You might need them again, anyway.
<Gumboot>
If things go really badly wrong it's sometimes easier to delete everything and start from scratch.
<anunnaki>
well i just ran make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=armv4=softfloat-linux-gnueabi-gcc-"
<anunnaki>
returned with "Makefile:1442: *** mixed implicit and normal rules. Stop.
<anunnaki>
idk if thats bad or not hah
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<anunnaki>
this guide im reading shows an example where they ran the armv4-softfloa.. coommmand -Wall .c -o and the new name of the file.
<Gumboot>
anunnaki: What OS are you running on?
<Gumboot>
Complaints about makefile rules normally show up if you're using a non-GNU make, which is rare under Linux.
<Gumboot>
But standard everywhere else.
<anunnaki>
oh i didnt put the path to it
<anunnaki>
hmm that didnt work.. i have different paths to armv4-unknown and armv4-softfloat in /usr/ and /usr/bin
<anunnaki>
it must be the wrong path.. i bet its not working b/c i have the wrong path in the kernels Makefile for "CROSS_COMPILE ?= /usr/bin/armv4-softfloat-linux-gnueabi-"
<Gumboot>
You can set your own CROSS_COMPILE=whatever on the command line.
<Gumboot>
Probably don't need the whole path.
<Gumboot>
What's your compiler called?
<Gumboot>
somethingsomethingsomething-gcc, right?
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<Gumboot>
Well, I'm going to bed, anyway. But if that were the name of your compiler, then `make CROSS_COMPILE=somethingsomethingsomething-` (including the final '-') would be what you'd need on the command line.
<Gumboot>
What you have above (which I should have noticed before) is CROSS_COMPILE=armv4=softfloat..., which has two '=' in it. That can't be healthy.
<anunnaki>
gumboot its crossdev toolchain
<anunnaki>
and that was a typo i did here not in terminal
<Gumboot>
damn.
<Gumboot>
What's the filename of the cross-compiling gcc?
<anunnaki>
i ahd problems following the guides to get arm installed till someone told me armv4-softfloat command and then it i was able to install that one
<anunnaki>
are you asking the version? or suggesting a command
<anunnaki>
version of armv4-softfloat..etc is 4.6.3
<anunnaki>
btw this isnt that important to me just my learning experience project in my attempt to get linux on moto Q. figured ill get to learn qemu/kvm and cross-compiling and patching all in one project :)
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<anunnaki>
Gumboot, i see you also hang in Cubieboard. im waiting for them to come back in stock. :) are you familiar with the msp430 board?
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<cheng>
what's the problem with msp430?
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<anunnaki>
nothing. just seeing if he knew about it.. i want to get one to use with a mk802 eventually down the road
<anunnaki>
what do you have highlights for msp430 and pipe in whenever it goes off?
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<rm>
"the problem" with msp430 is that it doesn't have as many "shields" as Arduino does
<rellla>
whats this command to check a user's last visit?
<mnemoc>
!seen rellla
<mnemoc>
~seen rellla
<ibot>
rellla is currently on #cubieboard #arm-netbook. Has said a total of 4 messages. Is idling for 29s, last said: 'whats this command to check a user's last visit?'.
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<rellla>
~seen rocker
<ibot>
rocker <~rocker@114.143.165.59> was last seen on IRC in channel #uclibc, 591d 3h 13m 47s ago, saying: 'can anyone help me... what is this?'.
<mnemoc>
rellla: you should be able to send him an email via the wiki
<rellla>
mnemoc: ah, thanks
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* WarheadsSE
now has a cubieboard & hackberry in his posession
<mnemoc>
donated I hope
<WarheadsSE>
I think so?
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<WarheadsSE>
xenoxaos takes point on all that.
<xenoxaos>
yes
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<mnemoc>
xenoxaos: are you related to miniand?
<xenoxaos>
thats where i got them
<xenoxaos>
other than that...no
<mnemoc>
xenoxaos: :)
<mnemoc>
i was just wondering if I should stop ranting about their null cooperation :p
<xenoxaos>
:P
<mnemoc>
but it seems I can continue
<xenoxaos>
mick sent us a pair of each board gratis
<mnemoc>
ah, nice
<mnemoc>
+1 for miniand
<xenoxaos>
yup
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<hramrach>
hello
<hramrach>
any progress on finding a working vcs?
<mnemoc>
?
<hramrach>
last thing I saw here was some raging about git like 2 days ago
<WarheadsSE>
because they don't know how to use it:?
<hramrach>
git has warts
<sky770>
erm..is there a rockchip specific channel?
<mnemoc>
ranting was only regarding git submodules
<sky770>
here on freenode? :|
<hramrach>
basically git is plumbing. it is so shiny and smooth plumbing that nobody bothers to create porcelain that fits on it
<hramrach>
but then you get the wtf moment when you realize that no amount of plumbing is going to replace a bathtub and there is non in the git bathroom ;-)
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<Turl>
hramrach: git has --porcelain
<Turl>
which ironically it's what you use when you need git for plumbing :P
<mnemoc>
why on earth every .apk/.odex on my stock galaxy nexus has a different sha1 than expected??!
<mnemoc>
I've pushed 17 pairs already
<Turl>
mnemoc: why don't you give up and just upgrade via fastboot? :)
<hramrach>
the question is what uses that --porcelain
<hramrach>
never seen tutorial using the higk-level tools
* mnemoc
has scripts using git status --porcelain....
<hramrach>
s/higk/high
<mnemoc>
Turl: don't want to lose what I have there
<Turl>
mnemoc: as long as you don't issue a fastboot wipe and do not touch the userdata partition you should be fine
<mnemoc>
uhm
<mnemoc>
sure sure?
<Turl>
in other words, do not use the google supplied scripts :p
<Turl>
yeah pretty sure
<hramrach>
you could script around the warts but git only comes with the warts, not the scripts that hide them
<Turl>
do a backup if you want to be extra sure
<Turl>
RaYmAn: ^ can you confirm or deny? :p
<mnemoc>
I'm on /system/app/F* already
<mnemoc>
maybe should just push them all
<Turl>
fastbooting system, boot, radio and bootloader should be all you need
<Turl>
mnemoc: I bet once you finish all apps, libs md5 will mismatch
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<mnemoc>
somehow the name of the guy sounds familiar. I think he is the person so came to talk about an eoma keyboard
<hramrach>
so should be easy to run on this
<rm>
missed that... sounds laughable and unnecessary
<sky770>
rm ?
<mnemoc>
rm: you mean the smart keyboard or eoma?
<rm>
this > "Battery – Build in 300mAh Li-battery to protect the android OS in case of power failure or outage"
<sky770>
yeah..lol :D its fine right there..
<mnemoc>
rm: it's not bad to be able to relocate your computer without powering it down
<mnemoc>
or carry it suspended
<sky770>
considering this: that you have to use this infront of your monitor and cannot be used for...suppose infront of a 40" TV :D this is allrigh
<sky770>
so majority of ppl who just want to use it as a makeshift PC will be allright with this
<sky770>
mnemoc: +1 "suspended" functionality :D
<rm>
batteries wear out
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<sky770>
though..android doesn't need that :p
<rm>
and it adds cost
<sky770>
replaceable and are chargeable
<sky770>
even then if batt(s) die..then you're better off with none :p
<mnemoc>
it's probably just a common LiPo
<libv>
i rather like that.
<libv>
my devices usually go from one power-plug to the other
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* sky770
its my beer talking.. :|
<hramrach>
now you need not power off this one
<libv>
being able to take this device from the desk monitor to a big tv is a feature
<hramrach>
but could be done in software
<mnemoc>
battery is simpler
<sky770>
libv: nobody will want to sit directly infront of a huge TV (considering >35" are) :p
<libv>
a small battery lasting 10-15 minutes is nice for a device-in-keyboard
<mnemoc>
and with 4GB of nand you don't want to hibernate or suspend to disk
<hramrach>
yeah, linux is not geared towards that
<hramrach>
and the flash memory would wear out with ram snapshots
<mnemoc>
battery is simpler :)
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<libv>
sky770: as a driver developer i would be rather happy being able to switch monitors without having to have them all in one place and without having to restart the machine from scratch
<hramrach>
you can put it at a distance with long cable
<libv>
i wipped it out on the train on the ride over as well
<libv>
it's about the size of an A4
<hramrach>
that's very little touchapd then
<mnemoc>
libv: there is one from thinkpad, very nice construction
<sky770>
yep
<libv>
mnemoc: ah, but i am not a trackpoint fan :)
<hramrach>
they have touchpad version too
<libv>
otherwise yes, that is nice
<hramrach>
but currently I am searching for keyboard without numeric block
<hramrach>
takes up less space
<hramrach>
so far only found some gamer keyboards
<mnemoc>
harrow: search for the happy keyboard
<hramrach>
they leave out the numeric block to save on switches in cheap models but still quite expensive
<libv>
now A10, with VGA, built into an A4 sized device that is about 2CMs high, with full keyboard and a touchpad. That is the perfect machine for demoing lima :)
<libv>
15minute battery is also great, as then the whole thing can be set up before the talk, and you just walk over and plug it in
<sky770>
happy hacking keyboard? :D
<mnemoc>
numpad-less keyboard with real keys
<hramrach>
sounds nice but will be probably more expensive than the Chinese gaming keyboards
<sky770>
my laptop has it :p
<mnemoc>
the closest to real keys on a laptop are the old thinkpads
<mnemoc>
sad they killed the last (x220) ... x230 comes with junk keyboard
<sky770>
umm..can I say that the coolship stole the EOMA arch.?
<L84Supper>
it wouldn't take much to fit an a10 board inside a keyboard
<sky770>
now they'll be making money off it...I mean again we have the same thing going on in the market..same 'ol companies will crop up n then shit happens..
<L84Supper>
sky770: EOMA is really nothing new, there have been several other failed attempts as well :)
<hramrach>
$66 but w/o shippng :s
<mnemoc>
hramrach: if you type a lot you'll notice the difference
<sky770>
L84Supper: yeah..that's again true :|
<RITRedbeard>
sounds like Kickstarter
<hramrach>
plus missing the keys that are between tha main block and numeric block
<sky770>
mnemoc: :D
<RITRedbeard>
steal an idea that not many people know about, beg for money, PROFIT!!!!!!!
<sky770>
hramrach: point me to the link for tht $66 source?
<mnemoc>
I don't regret the >100E I paid for my das keyboard at all
<mnemoc>
RaYmAn: nah. I prefer to stick with google provided android on my nexuses
<mnemoc>
but just lost root on my galaxy nexus :<
<sky770>
#ubuntu-on-air
<sky770>
just don't head over to #ubuntu-phone (full of newbs)
<sky770>
...on air* for porting to other* devices other than nexusxx
<hramrach>
I don't think I have ever seen a real keyboard with MX switches ;-)
<mnemoc>
hramrach: i was very fear/doubtful about paying 120E+shipping for a keyboard.... but after two years using it, I'm glad I did
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<hramrach>
keyboards are typical example of facepalmish hardware design
<hramrach>
you either get ergonomic layout or quality switches
<mnemoc>
:)
<hramrach>
not to mention that only Japanese keyboards have the spaceber broken into multiple keys so you can use the space for something at least remotely useful
<hramrach>
and only few of the Japanese keyboards still
<focus_it>
I know Rock is not very cooperative on all this.
<mnemoc>
probably
<mnemoc>
and it uses a so-dimm module, so theoretically can be "upgraded"
<focus_it>
Hmm.. I want to PicUntu on it - http://ubuntu.g8.net/ in which case it can add to my long list of ARM gadget collection.
<focus_it>
Their website http://www.focuswill.com/ is all Android related - no mention of general support for Linux. I hope they not shoot themselves in the foot with Android only religion.
<focus_it>
focuswill - no relation to me :)))
<focus_it>
Some of there coincidences are so funny. Display company On Tat, search for that, and you also get Mr. Fuk On Tat
<focus_it>
mnemoc: indiegogo keep me up thinking - its just too easy compared to all other schemes out there
<focus_it>
my aim is to built IoT devices - may be float it on indiegogo? realistically being ee and linux power user is probably not enough - need a lot more Linux
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<traeak>
ugh google's stupid targeted ads are creepy