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<wallerdev> all of the standard parts and keywords of ruby aren't the factory pattern, you have to implement code a certain way for it to be considered the factory pattern
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<epx998> how can I get my counter=0 to not show up in my final conf file here
<wallerdev> use <% counter = 0 %.
<wallerdev> without the =
<wallerdev> the = means output the result
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<wallerdev> <%= outputs, <% doesnt
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<epx998> ok let me try that
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<epx998> that was it, thanks. new to ruby, as of today :)
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<blizzy> with Gemfile, do I need to include default gems, like yaml and json?
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<ellisTAA> i’m trying to solve some problems that require me to convert farenheit temperatures to celsius and celsius to fahrenheit. i’m working with options hashes. i’m encountering errors. can anyone offer some advice on which direction i should head https://gist.github.com/ellisTAA/186d966ab77dc8c5993e
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<ellisTAA> should i create an initialize method that accepts a hash? should the hash include a key and a value - can i do that in a options hash?
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<waxjar> ellisTAA: your #in_fahrenheit / #to_fahrenheit expect an argument, but you don't give it one in your tests
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<ellisTAA> i see ty
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<waxjar> and yeah, you need an initialize method to accept the hash
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<ellisTAA> waxjar: could you take a look @ lines 78 to 80 and let me know how i can set scale to the key of the options hash and temperature to the value of the options hash?
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<waxjar> are the options required or actually optional?
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<ellisTAA> waxjarL they are required i think, or at least the test will always supply them
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<waxjar> hmm, could do @scale, @temp = options.first, but it's a bit of a hack :p
<ellisTAA> :P
<ellisTAA> thanks
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<waxjar> can't think of any other concise way to do it right now, safest way would be to check if the keys exist and then set @scale and @temp
<waxjar> @scale, @temp = options.find { |k,v| k == :c || k == :f } would work i think :)
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<ellisTAA> how do i set up initialize to accept a hash as the argument?
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<wallerdev> def initialize(my_cool_hash)
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<ellisTAA> wallerdev: then how do i access the key and value of my_cool_hash?
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<wallerdev> same way as you would any hash
<wallerdev> my_cool_value = my_cool_hash[:my_cool_key]
<wallerdev> lol
<wallerdev> inside initialize
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<eam> wallerdev: really should put that in module MyCool
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<wallerdev> never a bad idae
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<wallerdev> i saw a javascript example from mozilla today that had a list of ["yo", "whaddup"] and somethin else
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<eam> >> $VERBOSE=nil; Class, Module = Module, Class; module MyCool end; MyCool.class
<eval-in_> eam => Class (https://eval.in/249503)
<waxjar> a hello world that gives you street creds :D
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<eam> is there a reason Ruby lets us assign to constants
<recurrence> If B extends A, and A calls a super function in A. How can A access a constant in B? Doesn’t seem to work straight up
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<wallerdev> it gives a warning if you overwrite one
<recurrence> Conceptually, it’s really an instance of B. So I thought this would work
<wallerdev> but ruby is very flexible so it doesnt really stop you from doing anything
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<eam> wallerdev: that ain't true
<recurrence> er sorry, meant o say “and B calls a super function in A"
<wallerdev> what isnt true?
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<eam> ruby lets you do anything
<wallerdev> lol
<wallerdev> okay sorry
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<wallerdev> ruby is very flexible
<eam> seriously though it's weird that constants are mutable
<recurrence> ruby certainly doesn’t let you do absolutely anything :)
<wallerdev> it's turing complete so technically it does :p
<recurrence> With Perl, you could literally implement Ruby
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<recurrence> I suspect Ruby can’t implement Perl :)
<recurrence> wallerdev: There are plenty of problems turing complete languages can’t solve :)
<eam> like teaching a robot to love
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<eam> or overloading unary minus
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<eam> or defining a new %letter{}
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<ellisTAA> when i run my tests it is returning nil for everything. anyone got a clue why? https://gist.github.com/ellisTAA/186d966ab77dc8c5993e
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<jhass> ellisTAA: btw, you can add multiple files to a single gist
<ellisTAA> oh snap really?
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<jhass> really
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<ellisTAA> thanks for letting me know
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<jhass> I see tons of spec failures, not all which i can relate to your code
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<jhass> none that relate to nil though
<jhass> how sure are you the failures you showed relate to the code you showed?
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<ellisTAA> god damnit u r right
<ellisTAA> i forgot to update it
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<jhass> so, the last expression of a method is it's return value
<jhass> let's take in_fahrenheit
<jhass> what's the last expression of that method?
<ellisTAA> currently its correct_temp
<jhass> no
<ellisTAA> so should i use an if else statement?
<jhass> you should understand why your method returns nil first
<ellisTAA> k
<jhass> correct_temp = @temperature if @scale == ":f"
<jhass> that's the last expression of your method
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<ellisTAA> i see
<jhass> let's generalize it, a = b if c
<jhass> now what values can that expression have
<jhass> >> [(foo = :bar if true), (foo = :bar if false)]
<eval-in_> jhass => [:bar, nil] (https://eval.in/249531)
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<jhass> as you can see, if the condition doesn't run, it's false
<ellisTAA> so it can only have a value if c is something?
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<jhass> the subexpression is an assignment
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<jhass> and assignment expressions value is always the right hand side
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<fwef> Hi, is it possible to run ruby's open-uri asynchronously? If not, what's the best way to achieve this?
<ellisTAA> ahh so “:f” should be switched with @scale
<jhass> er, if the condition doesn't run it's nil, sorry
<jhass> no, that's not the point I'm trying to make
<ellisTAA> oh damnit
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<ellisTAA> jhass: i appreciate your help
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<jhass> did you get it then? :)
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<ellisTAA> no lol
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<jhass> so, have a look at my example above
<ellisTAA> let me see
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<ellisTAA> so i ended up adding a correct_temp to the last line of the method. that doesn’t work
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<jhass> programmers are precise. "Doesn't work" is not precise
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<ellisTAA> i see
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<CocoStorm> Hey guys
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<CocoStorm> I have downloaded aptana and I have cloned an existing Ruby application from git.. Now I've promoted this project and I'm trying to run it... How do I do this?
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<wallerdev> promoted?
<wallerdev> is it a rails project?
<CocoStorm> I don't think so
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<CocoStorm> Not sure, it's someone's project
<CocoStorm> I'm a java dev
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<wallerdev> is it a website?
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<CocoStorm> yeah
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<wallerdev> its probably rails then
<wallerdev> try going to the folder on your commandline and typing "rails server"
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<wallerdev> should start the server up
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<CocoStorm> it returns Your Ruby version is 2.2.0, but your Gemfile specified 1.9.3
<wallerdev> well thats good
<wallerdev> means its rails
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<wallerdev> lol
<wallerdev> but sounds like youre gonna run into some issues trying to set things up
<wallerdev> you can edit the file named Gemfile and change the version number to 2.2.0
<wallerdev> but might want to read up on the basics of rails
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<CocoStorm> sweet, I'm "installing missing gems" now
<CocoStorm> what do I do after that?
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<wallerdev> run rails server
<wallerdev> lol
<CocoStorm> I get this
<CocoStorm> An error occurred while installing debugger (1.6.8), and Bundler cannot continue.
<CocoStorm> Make sure that `gem install debugger -v '1.6.8'` succeeds before bundling.
<wallerdev> are you on windows
<CocoStorm> nope, mac
<wallerdev> run the command it gave you and see what the output is
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<CocoStorm> ok
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<ellisTAA> anyone know why my class method isn’t available to other class methods? https://gist.github.com/ellisTAA/186d966ab77dc8c5993e
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<wallerdev> looks like you're not quite sure on the basics
<ellisTAA> :|
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<wallerdev> maybe start with a book on ruby? haha
<sevenseacat> did you read the error message?
<sevenseacat> your Temperature class has no class methods
<ellisTAA> sorry i meant instance methods
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<sevenseacat> you're not calling any instance methods in your tests
<wallerdev> an instance method is used like class Cow; def moo; puts 'moo'; end end; cow = Cow.new; cow.moo
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<wallerdev> you're saying @temperature = 5; @temperature.moo
<wallerdev> 5 has no moo method
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<wallerdev> since 5 is not a Cow
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<wallerdev> the other issue you have is you need to use == instead of = for comparison
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<sevenseacat> correctamundo
<Aesthetikxx> First of, to check if things are equal, use a double = sign, so like 'if @scale == :f'
<ellisTAA> the test uses in_fahrenheit & in_celsisus << in my methods i use other methods c_to_f and f_to_c but its saying thsoe don’t exist
<ellisTAA> yeah i did that but i was getting nul
<wallerdev> in your first example, @temperature gets assigned to 50
<wallerdev> then you call @temperature.f_to_c
<wallerdev> thats the same as calling 50.f_to_c
<ellisTAA> yeah
<wallerdev> 50 is a number
<wallerdev> it has no method f_to_c
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<wallerdev> only instances of the Temperature class have that method
<ellisTAA> but i made the method f_to_c
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<wallerdev> you made it inside the Temperature class so you can use it on Temperature objects
<wallerdev> if you made it inside the number class, you could use it on numbers
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<sevenseacat> note: dont add it to Numeric or anything like that
<wallerdev> lol
<ellisTAA> lol
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<ellisTAA> i see
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<ellisTAA> so how do i get around this
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<sevenseacat> do you understand the problem?
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<ellisTAA> i can’t aply f_to_c on @temperature bc @temperature is a number
<wallerdev> yup!!
<wallerdev> so what do you want to apply f_to_c on
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<ellisTAA> so i just got rid of those methods & applied the math code to each thing that needed it. but … i had to use the = assignment sign instead of == which makes me worry i’ve done something wrong and what i’m doing is just a hack or something
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<wallerdev> lol
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<wallerdev> the reason its not working with == is because you put your symbols in quotes
<wallerdev> >> :abc == ":abc"
<eval-in_> wallerdev => false (https://eval.in/249639)
<wallerdev> >> :abc == :abc
<eval-in_> wallerdev => true (https://eval.in/249640)
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<CocoStorm> hey guys, so I've got rail s to work now. and the website is running locally.. but how do I actually run it from an iDE so i can change code and see the changes on the fly?
<CocoStorm> I'm using aptana
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<wallerdev> i think most people dont use IDEs for ruby dev
<wallerdev> but theres a channel #rubyonrails
<wallerdev> and they might be able to help about getting live updates without restarting the server
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<wallerdev> or maybe someone there uses aptana
<ellisTAA> wallerdev: thank you!
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<CocoStorm> wallerdev: so how do they edit code? :S
<sevenseacat> wallerdev: they're already there asking us too :P
<sevenseacat> you open the folder in your IDE
<sevenseacat> and make changes
<sevenseacat> then refresh your browser
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<CocoStorm> right
<wallerdev> oh in terms of editing code most people use text editors
<wallerdev> text editors + terminal
<CocoStorm> I see
<wallerdev> ruby is a very dynamic language so static analysis doesnt always work well on it
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<wallerdev> so things like refactoring might not work as expected like xcode or visual studio
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<CocoStorm> so as long as rail s is running
<CocoStorm> and I edit the code
<CocoStorm> refreshing will refresh from server?
<CocoStorm> *browser
<wallerdev> i think some parts automatically update, some dont
<sevenseacat> config stuff wont
<sevenseacat> everything else will
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<wallerdev> ah cool
<wallerdev> yeah i havent used rails in awhile
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<CocoStorm> I see
<CocoStorm> wow, Ruby is strange
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<CocoStorm> I'll have to get used to it
<CocoStorm> :)
<wallerdev> lol
<CocoStorm> thanks guys
<wallerdev> yup
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<CocoStorm> thanks wallerdev
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<ellisTAA> wallerdev: i got it to work. but i got this problem with rounding them … you mind taking a look? https://gist.github.com/ellisTAA/186d966ab77dc8c5993e
<sevenseacat> well you are specifically calling `round`
<sevenseacat> why are you doing that if you dont want them rounded
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<ellisTAA> bc there were several problems that had decimals so i used round
<ellisTAA> float didn’t work bc it was too long
<ellisTAA> actually i figured it out but i dont understand why round(1) works ...
<sevenseacat> because now you're rounding to one decimal place
<sevenseacat> instead of to whole numbers
<ellisTAA> thanks sevenseacat
<ellisTAA> dinner time
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<jonmorehouse> Anyone here have experience with eventmachine and postgres?
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<jonmorehouse> I'm attempting to listen to a subscription from postgres and for each job, it should be able to access postgres
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<jonmorehouse> and this should all be done asynchronously within eventmachine
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<sargas> loop is a class method of Kernel... where is while defined?
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<sargas> from what I can find, while built into Ruby, like if, def, class, etc
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<ellisTAA> can someone help me understand what the comments are saying in my specification (i didn’t write them) https://gist.github.com/ellisTAA/186d966ab77dc8c5993e
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<ellisTAA> it seems like in the from spec i’m supposed to create a class method called from_celsius and somehow make it accessible to my instance methods ...
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<longfeet> looks like Temperature.from_celsius(50) returns nil
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<ellisTAA> i currently get an error message that says in_fahrenheit method isn’t defined
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<omosoj> i'm working on a rails app and trying to figure out the routes.rb file. it's ~100 lines and has 4 large ~15 line blocks. it is so hard to understand. would you all consider understanding this a difficult task or no?
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<sevenseacat> without seeing it, no idea.
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<omosoj> anyone else? ^
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<sevenseacat> lol
<sevenseacat> it depends on so very many things
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<shevy> like the availability of mice
<shevy> if there is a shortage of them, a cat's motivation will just go downhill
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<Ikri> is there a social network gem that's recommended here? socialization looked great, but it's no longer supported. Inkwell similar story.
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<certainty> moin
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<shevy> hey certainty
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<certainty> hey shevy. you called me yesterday?
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<shevy> certainty I call you every day!
<certainty> and for good reasons
<shevy> but I have an ultra short memory on IRC
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<shevy> I couldn't tell you why I would call you yesterday
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<certainty> no problem, i'm here for you
<certainty> same i told to your mom
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<shevy> certainty yeah, this is what I told your mom as well
<certainty> hehe
<shevy> but to be honest
<shevy> I am getting old
<shevy> I think it's time to stop playing with moms
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<certainty> time for grannys?
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<shevy> no they are too occupied thinking about the end
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<shevy> I am preparing for an exam... "IPv6 was initially suggested in 1995"
<certainty> my mom told me the same about you
<shevy> trivia like that
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<shevy> yeah it is true, I can't deny it. I am almost the oldest here, only pontiki would beat me by a little
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<certainty> she does?
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<shevy> certainty yeah
<shevy> old COBOL veteran
<arup_r> shevy: I am now 27. :)
<shevy> that is semi-young still
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<shevy> though soon you are 30 then you are old as well
<shevy> :-)
<certainty> i didn't know
<shevy> nah I don't think she knows COBOL actually
<certainty> shevy: nah 30 is not old
<shevy> yes it is!
<shevy> it's 12 years past 18!!!
<certainty> hehe
<shevy> and man once you are 30
<shevy> you are going for 40 ...
<eam> 30 years old or 30 years experience
<certainty> 30 years old
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<certainty> i'm 34 so i'm heading straight to the 40s
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<eam> you and me both
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* arup_r likes this phrase - "heading straight to the 40s"
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<shevy> I think arup_r is making fun of us old farts :(
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<arup_r> No..
<arup_r> Never....
<shevy> arup_r: "hahaha you will reach the 40s much sooner than I will hahaha"
<shevy> ;-)
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<shevy> but who wants to be immortal anyway
<arup_r> true
<shevy> imagine having to write ruby for 10000 more years
<arup_r> lol
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<eam> kill me now
<shevy> lol
<arup_r> The long life you would live.... the long pressure... you need to get. :)
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<certainty> i doubt that we have to "write" programs in 10000 years
<blizzy> is there anyway to make a global variable inside a class that can also be accessed in another file?
<certainty> i don't get the question
<shevy> certainty probably not but you always need to suggest an alternative
<shevy> blizzy sure. make a constant. or a @var that you can access with a class method
<shevy> but the term "global" is weird
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<shevy> because if it resides in a namespace of a class, how can it be really global?
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<eam> shevy: namespaces are global?
<eam> global means it can be referenced by name from any scope
<eam> namespace != scope
<shevy> ?
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<eam> >> module Foo; class Bar; end; end; Foo::Bar # Bar is a global variable in the namespace Foo
<eval-in_> eam => Foo::Bar (https://eval.in/250563)
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<eam> and you can assign to it because hey why not
<certainty> i like the fact that you said variable :)
<eam> well it is frankly
<eam> tired of pretending
<eam> $VERBOSE=nil; warnings be damned
<certainty> but every starter learns about uppercase things being constants :p
<certainty> when they find out that constants seem to be something different in ruby
<eam> >> Module Foo; Bar = 99; end; Foo::Bar
<eval-in_> eam => /tmp/execpad-dc50978dc3d8/source-dc50978dc3d8:3: syntax error, unexpected keyword_rescue, expecting end-of-input ... (https://eval.in/250564)
<eam> >> module Foo; Bar = 99; end; Foo::Bar
<eval-in_> eam => 99 (https://eval.in/250567)
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<shevy> to me only $foo is global. it leaks in and out onto every namespace. there is no "global" variable in any namespace
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<shellox> what's the recommded method to check the length of an array
<shellox> .length or .count?
<shellox> or .size
<shevy> you could argue that the top namespace is actually global
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<shevy> shellox .size; .length is an alias to .size or vice versa, .count is another method
<shevy> .size is shorter!
<shellox> thanks
<shevy> certainty how many different address types are there in IPv6?
<certainty> i bet count uses #length internally (or its implementation) if no argument has been given
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<shevy> I wanna have an argument with you
<certainty> shevy: what's an address type?
<shevy> certainty not sure... reading this from a pdf here
<shevy> the distinction that the guy wanted to make was (1) unicast (2) broadcast (3) multicast (4) anycast, whatever he wanted to convey
<certainty> looks like a reference
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<certainty> i don't know a shit about ipv6
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<shevy> me neither... but it's one part of the exam so now I am toast
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<shevy> "explain to me the differences between IPv6 and IPv4"
<shevy> "I just use dhcpcd!!!"
<shevy> oh that .pdf is nice, thanks certainty
<sevenseacat> one has many more numbers and some letters
<sevenseacat> and a few :s
<certainty> that's only the address
<shevy> now I know the difference between 0.0.0.0 and 127.0.0.1
<certainty> the entire ipv6 is alot different from ipv4
<shevy> certainty I'll just repeat common truths and hope he won't ask more :)
<certainty> shevy: heh, good. I had hoped you knew that before
<shevy> naaaah
<shevy> I use mostly just ruby really
<shevy> and kde konsole
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<shevy> gah... multicast
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<shevy> I feel like a sorcerer
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<certainty> shevy: a sourcerer? :)
<shevy> no they spell it without u in the UK
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<shevy> oh you mean
<shevy> the source
<certainty> shevy: i know. that was on purpose to express a wizard with the source (code)
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<certainty> didn't fire as it seems
<shevy> yeah I get it I get it, it's typical certainty at work :)
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<shevy> obviously you are not having enough work to do right now
<certainty> /ignore shevy
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<blizzy> nvm I figured it out, thanks everyone, lol.
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<avril14th> morning
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<green-big-frog> I have this Code here: quote = parsed['quote'].gsub(/[\t\n]/, " ")
<green-big-frog> It's supposed to remove all \t and \n out of the JSON i fetch from this API: http://www.iheartquotes.com/api/v1/random.json
<green-big-frog> But it doesn't work everytime.... What am I doing wrong?
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<green-big-frog> I have this Code here: quote = parsed['quote'].gsub(/[\t\n]/, " ")
<green-big-frog> It's supposed to remove all \t and \n out of the JSON i fetch from this API: http://www.iheartquotes.com/api/v1/random.json
<green-big-frog> But it doesn't work everytime.... What am I doing wrong?
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<krz> i have i have 0.upto(23).to_a. how can i convert those hours into a Time object?
<krz> i dont really care about date
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<ahegyi> green-big-frog: try to add \r as well
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<krz> i guess i could iterate and do a Time.new(1,1,1,i,0,0)
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<krz> but is there a better way?
<green-big-frog> ahegyi: ty
<green-big-frog> somehow i missed that as I was checking the API
<green-big-frog> ty
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<ahegyi> 0.upto(23).map { |i| Time.new(1,1,1,i,0,0) }
<ahegyi> I don't know better way to do it
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<certainty> krz: what are you using that for?
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<krz> certainty: displaying business hours
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<certainty> krz: why do you need a time object then?
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<krz> certainty: to make use of strftime
<krz> convenience i guess
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<certainty> but you're only displaying the hours, no?
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<krz> yea i guess i could use it as an int object
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<certainty> krz: sounds good to me
<certainty> then it's just 0..23
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<krz> yea thanks for that
<krz> :))
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<krz> certainty: a slight challeng is turning that 24 hour format to a 12 hour forma
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<krz> ideally with a time object, it would be more convenient
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<arup_r> IRC looks like a fastest clone of twitter... :p
<tobiasvl> ???
<Timgauthier> uhm...
<mercwithamouth> lol
<Timgauthier> you realize IRC is from like 1998 right?
<Timgauthier> likely much before that
<tobiasvl> 1988, you mean
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<Timgauthier> thanks tobiasvl :P
<Timgauthier> i started using it in 1998 :P
* Timgauthier is an internet baby
<tobiasvl> lol
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<tobiasvl> IRC is from 1988, Twitter is from 2006
<shellox> that's like saying html is a faster clone of flash...
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<Timgauthier> arup_r is new to the internets
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<shellox> i like irc. you can even connect with netcat
<Timgauthier> sure
<Timgauthier> what is netcat?
<Timgauthier> is that one of them wired internet connections?
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<arup_r> Ok.. reverting -- Twitter is the slowest clone of IRC.. ;)
<Timgauthier> my great grand pappi tells me stories about when they used to have to plug a big fat rope like thing into their iphones to get internet
<arup_r> hahahhaha
<Timgauthier> they're very different in execution arup_r
<certainty> no cat pictures on irc (ignoring DCC)
* arup_r lacks technical knowledge
<Timgauthier> certainty lol
<Timgauthier> why doesn't this video streaming work on firefox :'(
<Timgauthier> fucking firefox and html5 video
<certainty> go do it the old way
<certainty> read a book
<Timgauthier> i can't, its client work
<Timgauthier> i should read my book
<certainty> then you're skrewed
<shellox> twitter is a platform for people who think they're important and for illiterate celebrities
<Timgauthier> its nice, has a black flat cover
<certainty> you have a book?
<Timgauthier> yes i am reading a book
<certainty> i thought you wrote one :)
<Timgauthier> well, i say that like a person posting cat pictures is 'Having a nice evening with the cat"
<Timgauthier> pfft i can barely read
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<arup_r> shevy: might be changing his all ip4 addresses ti ipv6...
<arup_r> to make his boxes more secured from the internet
<arup_r> :p
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<Timgauthier> sec
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<Timgauthier> yup i have an ip5 address
<vvivv> what is the best theme for Sublime text?
<Timgauthier> vim
<canton7> entirely personal taste :P
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<arup_r> How??? :(
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<arup_r> BTW... Why they skipped ip5?
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<vvivv> i like fox.dark
<tobiasvl> arup_r: IPv5 was a completely different thing. became ST2, Internet Stream Protocol v2
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<Timgauthier> ugh issues with newest version of firefox refusing to play mp4... sooo the customer gets to have fun doing a ton of work :|
<Timgauthier> vvivv then you have the best theme (for you)
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<certainty> arup_r: good question. dunno. i mean 6 isn't even a power of 2
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<Timgauthier> certainty i think arup_r is a troll of the highest order :P
<arup_r> No doubt!
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<workmad3> a quantum troll... any statement he makes starts in an entangled superposition of 'trolling/not-trolling', and requires the action of multiple observers before the state decoheres into a suitable stable state
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<Timgauthier> yea
<Timgauthier> its shevy i'm sure
<Timgauthier> :P
<Timgauthier> naw thats too complicated for shevy's brain maybe
<certainty> i like trolls
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<Timgauthier> they taste delicious
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<workmad3> Timgauthier: they taste of hatred and bitter, unfulfilled dreams
<Timgauthier> thats my mother
<workmad3> Timgauthier: it's like a really strong coffee
<Timgauthier> in a statement
<Timgauthier> i just had super delicious mild coffee
<Timgauthier> with a lot of sugar
<workmad3> heh
<workmad3> I've had 2 decent coffees so far today... just about at a point where consciousness doesn't feel like too much of a chore...
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<Timgauthier> i'm thinking about pushing another one
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<arup_r> Guys,,, can anyone take me to work with you.. (parttime) ... ?
<Timgauthier> sure
<Timgauthier> start now, make me a coffee just the way I like it, and clean my house
<workmad3> arup_r: after that, you can grab a quick flight to my place and do my laundry...
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<Timgauthier> workmad3 work from home is rad!
<workmad3> arup_r: you're ok with this being an unpaid internship of up to 10 years, right?
<Timgauthier> i'll pay you what i may... nothing!!!!!
<arup_r> I didn't get the joke.
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<workmad3> arup_r: the joke is that you asked for work and we immediately came up with ways to exploit your labour services, with an attempt to do so for free
<Timgauthier> thats because you are the joke
<arup_r> Ohh!...
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<workmad3> arup_r: and then further abusing your offer by suggesting that you'll be happy taking international flights (at your own expense) merely to do my housework for me :P
* certainty cleans up the troll food
<workmad3> certainty: no, that's arup_r's job now ;)
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<certainty> :D
<arup_r> I think... I should now log out.... :(
<workmad3> arup_r: aww... but then I'll have to start being mean to certainty instead... and he takes it far too well
<arup_r> said something... and had been interpreted to something else..
<workmad3> Timgauthier: gah!!!!
<Timgauthier> saints row is awesome :P
<Timgauthier> reddit is too
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<workmad3> Timgauthier: I'm now wondering if I can get away with the 'mum or sister?' joke ;)
<Timgauthier> both?
<Timgauthier> :P
<workmad3> Timgauthier: ah, ok... you're from one of *those* places :P
<Timgauthier> north america? yeah
<Timgauthier> oh man, i thought i was going to have to go make more coffee
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<Timgauthier> ...
<Timgauthier> i havn't finished my first coffee
<Timgauthier> this is a bad thing
<arup_r> lol
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<workmad3> I need to go make more coffee
<arup_r> Timgauthier: lost his mind.. it seems
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<workmad3> arup_r: you're assuming he ever had one...
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<arup_r> humm.. so
<arup_r> :)
<arup_r> I trust all but not my words
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<Timgauthier> my mind is an empty canvas
<Timgauthier> that shit isn't even stretched on a frame
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<workmad3> Timgauthier: ah, so what you really meant was "My mind is a tattered rag, screwed up and thrown in the corner of an artist's studio" but you wanted to dress it up a bit
<Timgauthier> yes
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* arup_r <thumbs up> Bro..
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<arup_r> And also..He is a Bong like me... double proud!!!
<Timgauthier> wtf is a bong
<Timgauthier> he's also actually an american
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<arup_r> Banerjee... is the mark that he is a Bong.. means bengali...
<Timgauthier> i see
<Timgauthier> also the problem i forsee with his "cheap" printer is the same reason the other ones are expensive... they need to make very sharp points into the paper to be readible and to stay readible, and a cheap machine will not stay sharp long enough
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<arup_r> may be
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<Timgauthier> http://i.imgur.com/gnIHPA4.jpg on os x how do i do? :P
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<avril14th> ahah, great
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<niik00> Hi guys, does anyone here use archlinux and can help me to install nokogiri with bundle ?
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<canton7> niik00, can try...
<canton7> what's going wrong?
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<niik00> I can install it when I do gem install nokogiri but bundler is failing
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<canton7> failing how?
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<niik00> saying that libexslt can't be found
<niik00> But I installed libxml2, libxslt, libicov etc
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<niik00> I think I've installed all the dependencies
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<canton7> libxslt, you mean?
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<niik00> Here's the output : http://pastebin.com/S93VJeGj
<canton7> how did you install it with gem?
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<canton7> what options did you pass?
<niik00> none. I just typed "gem install nokogiri"
<canton7> any sudo?
<niik00> nope as root (I know it's bad)
<canton7> have you changed /etc/gemrc?
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<niik00> mmmm let me check. I have this : gem: --user-install
<canton7> cool, so you havne't changed anything
<canton7> run 'gem install nokogiri' as the same user you're running 'bundle install' as
<canton7> see what that does
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<canton7> arch, by default, has users install gems into the user's home dir. this means that pacman can be responsible for system-wide gems
<ddv> you need to install libxslt-dev headers
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<ddv> or libxml dev headers
<canton7> ddv, it installed fine as root, which is why I assume the headers are installed
<niik00> I can't find them using pacman. They are available in debian's repos but not in arch I think
<niik00> I did a gem install : 1 gem installed
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<niik00> installed without warning or error
<canton7> ok, so it's some weird bundler issue
<canton7> now try the bundle install?
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<niik00> Same output that the one pasted above : libexslt is missing. Please locate mkmf.log to investigate how it is failing.
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<niik00> Well basically, bundle install work but bundle install --path vendor/bundle doesn't
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<canton7> niik00, you mean libxslt?
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<niik00> canton7: I just pasted the output nokogiri complains about libexslt
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<canton7> you keep saying "libexslt" instead of "libxslt". I want to know whether that's on purpose :P
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<niik00> I don't say anything the system does. on my screen it is written libexslt not libxslt I know it's weird
<sevenseacat> gist the full error message?
<canton7> ah I see
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<canton7> so it looks like a difference between how gem and bundler have set up the environment for building nokogiri
<canton7> does bundler say what version of nokogiri it's trying to install?
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<niik00> 1.6.6.1
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<arup_r> Need a Ruby help -- the doco is very perfect - http://ruby-doc.org/core-2.2.0/Object.html#method-i-dup-label-on+dup+vs+clone .. I didn't understand **dup typically uses the class of the descendant object to create the new instance.** Any light on this please?
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<niik00> Well I think I'm gonna bundle normally and not in vendor/bundle
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<niik00> since it solves the problem
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<da3m0n22> Hello, with (ruby 2.2.0p0 (2014-12-25 revision 49005) [x86_64-darwin13]), I cannot (require_relative 'RFC7159/parser'), but path given in error message exists
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<da3m0n22> meaning full path to the file is OK, doesn't work even with appending .ry/.rb in the require_relative command
<da3m0n22> hints anyone?
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<hanmac1> da3m0n22: where did you try to call require_relative? in a file or in the interpreter like irb?
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<da3m0n22> hanmac1: in the file, btw. it's clone of repository https://github.com/shyouhei/RFC7159/
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<da3m0n22> going into lib/ folder and calling `ruby RFC7159.rb`
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<hanmac1> da3m0n22: `ruby -r RFC7159.rb`
<hanmac1> hm ok that does not hlep
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<da3m0n22> oh, btw. i've got case-insensitive hfs+, so that isn't issue, hanmac1 that doesn't work for me either
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<hanmac1> da3m0n22: the problem is that the " .ry/.rb " file does need to converted first with racc
<da3m0n22> hanmac1: that should be valid only for .ry files, isn't it? running racc on .rb will give out parse error
<hanmac1> yes
<da3m0n22> also racc puts output from {name}.ry in {name}.tab.rb, so the include would be incorrect
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<da3m0n22> hanmac1: ok, thank you, got it working, but had to shuffle with requires and compile .ry with racc
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<avril14th> arup_r: dup will not include the parent modules while clone will
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<arup_r> avril14th: That I see from the example.. But what is "descendant object" ?
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<Lucretia> hi, I've been looking but cannot see what this means: if site.layouts.key? 'category_index' ... end
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<avril14th> it means that layouts is a hash and that you check whether 'category_index' is one of its keys
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<Lucretia> thanks
<avril14th> >> [:a, :c].map{ |k| { :a => 1, :b => 2 }.key? k }
<eval-in_> avril14th => [true, false] (https://eval.in/251093)
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<softinio> Hey I am an experienced developer and need to write some ruby code for my job asap .... is there a good tutorial that gets me going fast with ruby as I am experienced? So far have been looking at http://www.rubyist.net/~slagell/ruby
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<avril14th> softinio: http://ruby.bastardsbook.com/ ?
<avril14th> but still the best is yet to write code :)
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<softinio> Code I will writing for sure straight away :-)
<softinio> hence i need this tutorial to be quick :-)
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<avril14th> what do you need writing?
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<avril14th> (and why ruby then?)
<softinio> For work
<avril14th> what work? an online app? a dark system script?
<softinio> Need to develop something for a part of the system that is written in ruby
<avril14th> k
<avril14th> cool, welcome :)
<softinio> There is a server we have that that provides services through RPC I need to write a ruby app as a client to it so our testers can use to test this server
<softinio> needs to be in ruby as our testers gonna automate their tests and their tests written all in ruby and cucumber
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<softinio> avril14th: thanks
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<avril14th> softinio: since you're writing a client, maybe you should check into setting it as a gem so you could use your client around and it will be dead easy to integrate into a ruby test suite
<softinio> good idea opportunity to learn that fast too
<softinio> there is not enough hours in the day
<avril14th> tru dat
<softinio> away from work learning go-lang too
<softinio> too much in too little time
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<softinio> as we speak at work writing nodejs code today and java after
<avril14th> that's good for your skill
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<scottstamp> Hmm, I'm trying to build a model but I'm getting an empty migration file -- would that happen if a table already exists in my db?
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<avril14th> scottstamp: don't think so
<scottstamp> softinio: isn't it great being a polyglot? ;D
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<scottstamp> avril14th: hm, weird
<avril14th> migrations don't know what's in your db
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<avril14th> they know what's in your schema.rb though
<scottstamp> I didn't figure so
<scottstamp> wonder why this is happening then
<avril14th> check your schema.rb
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<scottstamp> It's in my schema, but the migration file just has an empty change block
<avril14th> try rails g again, maybe you misspelled :)
<avril14th> oh that!
<avril14th> it probably means you gave no paramter to rails g
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<softinio> scottstamp: I like just not enough time to rule the all so I can rule the world ... try my best too though :-)
<avril14th> so just fill the change method yourslff
<scottstamp> def change { create_table :tracks do |t| { ... t.timestamps null: false } }
<avril14th> right, whatever has to be there
<avril14th> :=)
<scottstamp> ... is where I'd expect my definitions but it's just whitespace
<scottstamp> :P
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<scottstamp> it also removed another previously defined schema from schema.rb
<scottstamp> grr
<scottstamp> screw it, I'll just start over, haha
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<scottstamp> when in doubt, throw it under a bus. ^_^
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<wald0> im not sure if this is a good place to ask this but... i have a question about versioning-release-numbers
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<hanmac2> wald0: http://semver.org/
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<scottstamp> avril14th: turns out the problem was a misplaced --force-plural flag, guess the parser for rails g doesn't like things out of order ;)
<wald0> let's say i did an app which is in version 3.0.0 now, i want to start development for the next beta with releases each week (so i need a version number here for them), but at the same time i want to continue doing releases of the stable version with updates and fixes
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<scottstamp> wald0: 3.0.0-b#
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<scottstamp> or -beta if you want to be terse
<avril14th> scottstamp: k :)
<wald0> so i was thinking about releasing 3.0.1 and 3.0.2 as updates for the stable, so then i can start doing 4.0.x for the betas... but then when the beta would become stable, i cannot name it 4.0.0
<hanmac2> wald0: did you look at my link?
<scottstamp> Semantic versioning is about the only thing Java gets right. ^_^
<wald0> using 3.0.0-b# could make confusing the stable version, mmh...
<wald0> hanmac2: looking at it now
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<scottstamp> wald0: I would agree it can get confusing when you branch a beta from a stable, but the idea is that versioning tools will take your whole number as precedence over something flagged. I suppose doing it *right* would be 3.1.0-beta (or 4.0.0-beta if it's a major update)
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<wald0> mmmh, not very convinced, in fact i dont have "dependency problems", but more how to name the versions, for example there will be 2 independent branches, stable and development, both of them would be updated and would have future updates
<scottstamp> then when you drop your flag, 4.0.0 takes precedence over 4.0.0-beta
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<wald0> scottstamp: yes but, let's say i do 50 release of beta's during the development... i would need something like -beta-49 then ?
<scottstamp> Yup.
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<wald0> hum
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<wald0> or maybe i can just start the beta versions from 3.1.x (3.x.x in fact, until released as 4.0.0), and then do updated releases on the stable as 3.0.x
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<wald0> "stable releases" sounds like for me as in NUM.0.0
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<workmad3> wald0: please don't invent yet another versioning scheme... just use http://semver.org/ unless you have very good reason not to
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<wald0> well, i have some reasons in fact, website download buttons parsers and other tools uses a parsing of values only based in x.x.x
<wald0> dont knows about -stuff-xxx
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<scottstamp> then they're doing it wrong. :3
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<wald0> probably :)
<wald0> but is a reason lol
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<workmad3> wald0: that's not a very good reason though :P
<workmad3> wald0: and that's what I said... not 'any reason you can drum up' but 'a very good reason'
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<wald0> well, rewrite tools, parser, and web plugins without know php can be a "very good reason" lol
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<Pip> What's the best tutorial for learning Ruby?
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<Timgauthier> Why's
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<Pip> Thanks
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<Timgauthier> np
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<Pip> Timgauthier, What's that?
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<Timgauthier> an awesome video everyone should watch and consider
<Timgauthier> because i like to make fiat statements
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<Tomasso> i have a set of files that have ruby code such us, {"myobject"=> "definition"} , it contains one ruby object definition, the question is.. how should I import them so I add each one to a collection?
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<stormbytes> morning
<stormbytes> how do i open->read->write->close a file in ruby?
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<ShadySQL> hey guys
<ShadySQL> I don't so much of a clue about Ruby
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<ShadySQL> I have an Amazon Linux AMI
<ShadySQL> trying to instal the new relic extension for cloud watch
<stormbytes> i just need this one routine
<ShadySQL> when I hit
<ShadySQL> bundle install
<ShadySQL> I get the error
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<ShadySQL> An error occurred while installing json (1.8.2), and Bundler cannot continue.
<ShadySQL> Make sure that `gem install json -v '1.8.2'` succeeds before bundling.
<ShadySQL> when I try to install that missing gem
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<ShadySQL> it complains to me again
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<stormbytes> can someone please give me the syntax for open->read->write->close
<ShadySQL> can anyone please pretty please help a brother out
<tobiasvl> stormbytes: I'm sure google can help you here but something like this: File.open(filename, options) {|f| f.write(string_to_write) }
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<stormbytes> i did google it.. but its 1 line of code and multiple actions so figured i'd just ask. Not writing a ruby app just need this one line
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<stormbytes> where's the read?
<tobiasvl> nowhere. what do you want to read?
<hanmac2> hey ruby profis i am looking for a ruby gem for data transportation with load balancing (it does split the data over multible ports)
<stormbytes> the file has a single number on a single line. I need to read/increment/write that number
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<stormbytes> tobiasvl sweet :)
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<stormbytes> tobiasvl will that work if the file is blank ? er. file.to_s default to 0 ?
<stormbytes> err.. to_i
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<tobiasvl> yes, that should work. if you mean file.gets that is. it will return nil, and nil.to_i is 0.
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<tobiasvl> but why not just try it and see?
<stormbytes> got it
<tobiasvl> fool around with it and see what you make out of it.
<stormbytes> was going to be my next move :)
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<scottstamp> grr, wtf. I'm trying to include a gem I built into a rails project but rake --tasks is throwing an error from that gem saying it can't find httparty. http://pastie.org/9854607
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<scottstamp> I have require 'rubygems' at the top of the file that's requiring httparty already
<stormbytes> tobiasvl if i just want to return the number stored in the file, whats wrong with this: file = File.open("pn.activity", "r")
<stormbytes> file.read.to_s
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<tobiasvl> stormbytes: is that the entire code? there's no block there
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<stormbytes> oops
<stormbytes> and yeah it is
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<tobiasvl> File.open("pn.activity", "r") { |file| file.read.to_s }
<stormbytes> hm
<tobiasvl> should work fine
<stormbytes> thx will git that a shot
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<carlesso> Hy guys! I've a question but I don't really know how to explain but this gives the idea: https://gist.github.com/carlesso/c41e7e1d259081354133
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<carlesso> Maybe it does not have much sense anyway, but I'd like to hear from you
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<waxjar> carlesso: doesn't make sense to me. why not something like attr_reader :foo; def foo=(val); do your check; @foo = val; end
<carlesso> waxjar, there are tons of (better) alternatives, was just curious really
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<waxjar> the class method stuff is generally refered to as meta-programming or DSL (domain specific language)
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<waxjar> you can use __method__ (i believe) to get the name of the current method, but obviously you'll have to do some processing on it
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<carlesso> but I will be outside the method, in my case
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<waxjar> ah, i see what you mean.
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<GeorgesLeYeti> Hi
<canton7> carlesso, I think in new ruby versions, 'def' returns the method name
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<GeorgesLeYeti> Is it possible to make a array from 0 to 10 in 1 line. Like [0..10]
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<waxjar> carlesso: i think you can just store whatever you pass to key in an instance variable and retrieve it with "what"
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<waxjar> don't know if it has a name, hto
<workmad3> GeorgesLeYeti: yes
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<workmad3> GeorgesLeYeti: although not quite that syntax
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<waxjar> >> [*0..10]
<eval-in_> waxjar => [0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10] (https://eval.in/251641)
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<workmad3> >> (0..10).to_a too
<eval-in_> workmad3 => undefined local variable or method `too' for main:Object (NameError) ... (https://eval.in/251642)
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<workmad3> >> (0..10).to_a
<eval-in_> workmad3 => [0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10] (https://eval.in/251643)
<workmad3> heh
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<GeorgesLeYeti> waxjar & workmad3 : ty
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<bkulbida> hi all
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<dstarh> I've got an external data source that is sending what they call "inline xml" that would look like this I ate <FOOD>Cheese Pizza</FOOD> for <OCCASION>lunch</OCCASION>. does anyone have any thoughts on a gem that might be able to parse those for me? It's "xml like" but certainly not xml
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<leonshalimov> Nokogiri?
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<shevy> just got back
<shevy> certainty the first exam was nice, no question about IPv6 \o/
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<ellisTAA> can someone give me an example of a factory method in ruby? i thought .new was a factory method but someone said its not
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<BuGo> is there a way to get super method? like you can get method(:some_method).souce_location and in my case it is unbound method that calls super inside of it. How can i get what method gets called with said super?
<apeiros_> ellisTAA: that someone is wrong
<ellisTAA> apeiros_: ty
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<BuGo> with superclass! tnx!
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<ellisTAA> can someone help me figure out what this spec is asking me to do: https://gist.github.com/ellisTAA/186d966ab77dc8c5993e
<apeiros_> BuGo: that will potentially bypass methods from modules
<ellisTAA> it is asking to create something using a factory method but i’m not sure if that means create a method with another method in it?
<BuGo> apeiros_: then what way would not bypass methods from modules?
<apeiros_> BuGo: I'd probably go via self.class.ancestors[1].instance_method(:some_method). there might be a nicer solution.
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<avril14th> weekend!!!
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<mynameis> There is no weekend for people who punch lines of code.
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<canton7> there's no weekend for those waiting for a frickin' release to build so it can be tested... again...
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<ellisTAA> if a factory method in ruby is new, then is .new the interface??
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<ellisTAA> i dont get how a factory method differs from an instance method?
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<shevy> you use it to create an object ellisTAA
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<ellisTAA> and i create a factory method inside of a class?
<centrx> and it's typically a class method not an instance method
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<shevy> "The factory method pattern is a creational pattern which uses factory methods to deal with the problem of creating objects without specifying the exact class of object that will be created."
<ellisTAA> but what is the benefit of creating a factory method instead of a instance method
<shevy> so in ruby this would actually translate to Factory.create Class.new something I guess
<ellisTAA> i dont get the last part “without specifying the exact class of object that will be created.””
<centrx> It wouldn't make any sense to create a factory method as an instance method
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<ellisTAA> centrx: i guess that’s the thing i dont get. if the method is just creating a new object why can’t an instance method do that
<centrx> unless the instance method is a factory method
<centrx> in which case there is no comparison between creating a factory method instead of an instance method
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<ellisTAA> so is a factory method a class method whose purpose is to create new objects?
<centrx> A factory makes widgets, also called objects
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<ellisTAA> say we created a class called class Car. what kind of factory method could we create?
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<centrx> say you created a class called Vehicle
<ellisTAA> k
<centrx> You might have a factory method that will create either Car or Truck or Bicycle
<centrx> depending on, say, a parameter
<centrx> or a la the Wikipedia example
<ellisTAA> ah i see … so instead of writing class Car << Vehicle … i would write vehicle.create(car)
<ellisTAA> would that create a new car class ^^
<centrx> if you set it up to
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<centrx> ellisTAA, Here are some examples in Ruby: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1515577/factory-methods-in-ruby
<ellisTAA> in my example, what would i write to create a new carhttps://gist.github.com/ellisTAA/9d88de28122e1c6a357a
<ellisTAA> ty
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<centrx> ellisTAA, You might want to pass a symbol, like :car or :bike
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<centrx> ellisTAA, then you would call Car.new or Bike.new depending on x
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<ellisTAA> so in this example, would the person have 3 classes > class Vehicle, class Car, class Bike. and in the vehicle class have a factory method that can create new instances of the bike and car class?
<centrx> yes
<ellisTAA> ahh ok
<ellisTAA> thanks for walking me through that
<centrx> np
<ellisTAA> sorry last q, so this is right: https://gist.github.com/ellisTAA/9d88de28122e1c6a357a
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<centrx> ellisTAA, Usually the Car, Truck, and Bike would inherit from Vehicle
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<ellisTAA> centrx: i see.. ty
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<ellisTAA> does a factory method always create a subclass? like there’s no point in creating a method right?
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<GaryOak_> ellisTAA: it can but the point is that it's polymorphic so it doesn't return a specific type of object
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<ellisTAA> garyoak: that means that a factory method can return anything you want it to? but in this example it is returning a subclass https://gist.github.com/ellisTAA/9d88de28122e1c6a357a
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<GaryOak_> ellisTAA: yeah it's just a method you write, the factory pattern isn't a hard fast structure
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<GaryOak_> If you know what type of object it's returning then you don't need a factory
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<ellisTAA> ok thanks
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<PenguinMan98> Hey all I'm trying to install sass. I run 'gem ruby install' but i get an error 'No such file or directory X:/" I realize this is probably not a ruby question, but I figured I may as well ask anyway.
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<GaryOak_> ellisTAA: You say I need to get across town, and you feed it parameters and it gives you back a vehicle that can fit what you neeed
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<PenguinMan98> sorry, 'gem install sass'
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<_2_lilog> hi
<ellisTAA> garyoak: ok i think i got it. thank you for clarifying
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<GaryOak_> ellisTAA: it's kind of a confusing concept unless you have a real use case for it
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<ellisTAA> garyoak: is it an oop concept? i’ve been thinking about getting a book about oop
<GaryOak_> ellisTAA: yeah, it's an oop concept, if you are interested in general design patterns there are tons of resources online
<PenguinMan98> If the parameter is 'passengers = 2' then it returns a 'coupe' object. if the passengers = 12 then it returns a 'bus' object. You don't need to know exactly which type of vehicle is returned as long as it has a '.drive() method.
<PenguinMan98> Which you can ensure by making sure all your vehicles extend the 'driveable' interface
<ellisTAA> garyoak: i’m learning ruby/programming. ppl have mentioned design pattners, could u tell me what other concepts i need to learn in order to become a good ruby programmer
<PenguinMan98> implement*
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<GaryOak_> ellisTAA: understanding how objects work in general, and what that actually means in ruby
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<ellisTAA> garyoak: ok ill do that
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<GaryOak_> ellisTAA: I know it seems huge, but the best way to learn is to build stuff
<PenguinMan98> And you can't succeed until you fail a lot first.
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<PenguinMan98> Just don't stop.
<PenguinMan98> trying, not failing. !important
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<ellisTAA> can anyone help me understand what this spec is asking for. it is related to factory methods https://gist.github.com/ellisTAA/186d966ab77dc8c5993e
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<GaryOak_> ellisTAA: Like I've been learning Rust, and I just went through the tutorial book, and the project at the end was a number guesser, it's simple but I learned a lot
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<ellisTAA> garyoak: yeah i’ve been thinking of using exercism.io for practicing
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<shevy> ack exorcism!
<shevy> the devil!!!
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<shevy> call avatar.rb
<shevy> and priest.php
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<GaryOak_> ellisTAA: hahaha exercism.io seemed pretty cool
<ellisTAA> lol
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<dojobo> anybody actually used exercism.io?
<dojobo> i'm still working through some other beginner stuff before i graduate to that
<dojobo> it sounds great but i'm skeptical that it works as advertised, since it's free
<PenguinMan98> Hey all I'm trying to install sass. I run 'gem install sass' but i get an error 'No such file or directory X:/" I realize this is probably not a ruby question, but I figured I may as well ask anyway.
<dojobo> i.e. having a knowledgeable human you don't know review your code and give you tips sounds too good to be true
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<dojobo> (for free i mean)
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<waxjar> it works dojobo, sometimes it takes a while before you get any comments
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<dojobo> ah cool, good to know
<dojobo> thanks waxjar
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<GaryOak_> PenguinMan98: something is looking for an X: directory
<dojobo> i already know the rails app i need to make, but i have to build up the expertise first
<GaryOak_> PenguinMan98: and it's not finding it
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<ellisTAA> can someone help me understand what lines 75 to 84 in my specification.rb are asking me to do? https://gist.github.com/ellisTAA/186d966ab77dc8c5993e
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<PenguinMan98> GaryOak_: yeah. but what?
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<GaryOak_> PenguinMan98: the gem program
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<PenguinMan98> GaryOak_: Yeah. But .. .where to fix? Where to look for fix?
<centrx> ellisTAA, implement factory methods from_celsius and from_fahrenheit
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<centrx> ellisTAA, In this case, these factory methods simply create an instance of Temperature, in a helpful way
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<ellisTAA> i see …
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<ellisTAA> centrx: so would this be ok def self.from_fahrenheit(x)
<ellisTAA> Temperature.new(x)
<ellisTAA> end
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<centrx> ellisTAA, That does not look like it would work
<centrx> ellisTAA, the temperature has to be stored with a unit, the initialize method accepts a hash not a number
<ellisTAA> centrx: yeah i was looking @ that and realized “fuck”
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<PenguinMan98> I think the idea is you call Temperature's constructor and give it a tuple(hash) 'Celsius' = 42. After that, calling .the .in_farenheit and in_celsius methods on it to get the temperature back out.
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<finisherr> Can someone please tell me why this does not print every item in the array then delete them?
<finisherr> it always fails to remove one of the items
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<ellisTAA> penguinman98: thanks ill check that out
<PenguinMan98> Depending on whether you get a Celsius or Farenheit input, you need to change the implementation of .in_farenheit and .in_celsius.
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<PenguinMan98> So you use a factory to build the object with different implementations based on the constructor input.
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<finisherr> There are 10 lines of code here, so someone more familiar with Ruby should be able to tell me what’s going on
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<centrx> finisherr, What is going?
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<finisherr> centrx: I would expect the block to print each item in the array, then delete it
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<finisherr> centrx: but it always seems to miss one of the items
<centrx> finisherr, You're changing the array you're iterating over
<finisherr> yes
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<centrx> finisherr, So in the first iteration it works as expected
<centrx> finisherr, In the second iteration, arr[0] was deleted, but the iterator is at [1] (the second iteration)
<GaryOak_> so the indexes are moving around
<finisherr> should i loop from the back to the front?
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<finisherr> so the indexes don’t get jacked up
<GaryOak_> you could print the array and then delete the whole thing
<centrx> finisherr, normally you would use #map or something like that instad
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<centrx> This looks like test/experiment code so it's not clear what the real-world purpose would be
<finisherr> i basically wanna do something like for ((i=len(array); i > 0; i—)) del(a[i])
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<finisherr> in pseudo code
<centrx> right, but that just means "delete the entire array", so just do: array = [] instead
<centrx> or array = nil
<finisherr> GaryOak_: I have to actually do some work with each item before deleting the item
<finisherr> and centrx
<centrx> why does it need to be deleted?
<finisherr> i’m just printing here for the sake of brevity
<finisherr> hmm…that’s a good point. I suppose I don’t have to delete it
<finisherr> I was using the size of the resulted array to make sure it processed everything
<finisherr> but I guess I don’t have to do that
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<centrx> the each statement will handle that
<centrx> or map or whatever
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<shevy> .whatever()
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<ellisTAA> i’ve made some progress. but when my factory methods get called and a new class gets created the argument that gets instantiated isn’t acting like a hash so i get an error message saying undefined method ‘keys’. anyone know why? https://gist.github.com/ellisTAA/186d966ab77dc8c5993e
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<arup_r> shevy: Is this a new method in Ruby? `.whatever()`
<shevy> arup_r lol
<shevy> arup_r.whatever!()
<dojobo> it's part of the ennui gem
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<arup_r> what it modified in my.. What I can see.. I am coughing loudly.. ;)
<arup_r> shevy: ^^
<ellisTAA> nvm
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<PenguinMan98> Hey all I'm trying to install sass. I run 'gem ruby install' but i get an error 'No such file or directory X:/" I realize this is probably not a ruby question, but I figured I may as well ask anyway.
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<arup_r> shouldn't it be gem install saas ?
<PenguinMan98> arup_r: no
<dojobo> maybe x: is a default value for a parameter you need to specify?
<ellisTAA> yahooo!! figured it out
<PenguinMan98> oh wait
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<PenguinMan98> yeah, I corrected myself before
<PenguinMan98> then pasted teh old one again
<arup_r> Ohh!.. Never mind I don't use Ruby.. I use PhP ;)
<PenguinMan98> Hey all I'm trying to install sass. I run 'gem install sass' but i get an error 'No such file or directory X:/" I realize this is probably not a ruby question, but I figured I may as well ask anyway.
<ellisTAA> peguinman98: i dont know RoR yet but if no one in here knows, #RubyonRails might be able to help u out
<centrx> ~!~!~&~ YOU SAID THE WORD OF THE DAY ~~@!@~@!
<PenguinMan98> cool
<PenguinMan98> thanks
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<shevy> PhD or PhP
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<bitcycle> Hey all. What debugger should I use with ruby 2.2.0?
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<shevy> would you guys think it is obsessive if I split my ruby projects into directories with usually only one file in it?
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<centrx> shevy, it's okay as long as each file consists of only one class and each class consists of only one method
<shevy> ah
<shevy> my classes tend to become huge
<shevy> that's why I wanted to split them up into the first place :(
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<shevy> lol
<shevy> I am watching a biochemistry lecture about polyketides... and the girl talking about uses lego analogy... the chemical compounds are built by differently coloured lego bricks
<centrx> dude particles don't even exist
<shevy> now I should write some ruby code that builds up chemical compounds through lego
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<shevy> everything is a model!
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<shevy> everything is an object!
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<waxjar> lego oriented programming
<waxjar> bricks communicate trough pins and holes
<centrx> what about the lego people, are they objects too?
<shevy> yeah waxjar ... we build bricks on bricks just like in an assembly pipe
<shevy> the lego people are kinda cheaters
<shevy> I think they were not there in the very beginning
<eam> OOP is on its way out, AOP is where it's at
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<shevy> is AOP better?
<pipework> Aspect.
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<pipework> I don't really get it, personally.
<eam> we need a language where everything is an aspect (instead of an object), promote the inter-connectedness of all things
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<pipework> Do we though?
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<obelich> hiyas
<obelich> some one know if i can use a escanner twain in Ruby ? some gem ?
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<ellisTAA> can someone tell me what this spec is asking me to do to by code?? its talking about refactoring. is it just asking me to change my method names?? https://gist.github.com/ellisTAA/038c42895bf9a65f9be2
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<centrx> ellisTAA, ftoc and ctof look like new methods
<centrx> ellisTAA, you don't have anything like them so far
<ellisTAA> centrx: thank you. what does it mean to refactor to call those methods from the rest of the object
<centrx> ellisTAA, So after implementing those methods, then "refactoring" means changing the rest of the code to use them, while keeping the same behavior and functionality
<centrx> ellisTAA, Refactoring means to make changes/improvements to the code base, while keeping the same functionality and behavior, not introducing new features -- or bugs
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<ellisTAA> i see…. so does that mean i will keep methods like in_fahrenheit and just have ftoc call it or does it mean i change the name of in_fahrenheit to ftoc?
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<centrx> ellisTAA, in_fahreneit is an instance method that returns the value of the given instance in the specified unit
<centrx> fahrenheit
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<centrx> ellisTAA, ftoc and ctof would be utility methods, somewhat independent class methods that act sort of as a toolbox
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<centrx> ellisTAA, ftoc and ctof do not use any instance of Temperature, they take f as input and output as c, or vice-versa
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<ellisTAA> utility methods? is that the same as factory method?
<centrx> no
<centrx> a utility method does not create anything, a utility method generally doesn't retain any state
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<centrx> like Math.sqrt
<centrx> that's a utility method, it's basically just a function
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<pipework> It's a method that doesn't have state, and it's 'utility' in that it can be used by anything and isn't domain-specific.
<pipework> Just a useful thing.
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<ellisTAA> is the difference between a factory method and a class method that a factory method creates a new thing and a class method just maintains a state or manipulate the state?
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<longfeet> pretty much
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<ellisTAA> cool
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<porfa> is there any built in function in ruby to output me percentages?
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<porfa> i wanna know how much percent discount is from LARGENUM to SMALL NUM i have high prce, and low price, i need percentagem of discount
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<PenguinMan98> Ruby.EXE permission denied?
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<shevy> porfa not that I know of - I wrote this and use it http://pastie.org/9855140 - Percentage['123/456'].result # => 26.97
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<shevy> porfa it should be simple method though no? input -> to float -> * 100 / base
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<shevy> PenguinMan98 you use php to call ruby, on windows???
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<centrx> oh my god
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<PenguinMan98> shevy: beautiful isnt' it?
<shevy> dunno
<centrx> the horsemen of the apocalypse
<shevy> ruby on windows works ok-ish
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<shevy> but to use php on windows to call ruby hmmmm
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<PenguinMan98> But lets focus on what might be the error
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<shevy> perhaps php runs with insufficient permissions
<shevy> you can run ruby scripts?
<shevy> without php
<centrx> PenguinMan98, Did you fix the X:/ drive error?
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<PenguinMan98> yeah
<mwlang_> Anyone know how I can get Builder::XmlMarkup to not encode/escape a string when calling the #text! method?
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<PenguinMan98> works on non-administrator command line but not on administrator command line
<PenguinMan98> go figure
<mwlang_> I have an already escaped string and the “&” are getting turned into “&amp;” which I don’t need.
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<shevy> PenguinMan98 the commandlines are the same?
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<shevy> PenguinMan98 perhaps windows has an additional indirect layer
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<mwlang_> ok, figured out to not escape strings with XmlMarkup: xml.return("xsi:type" => "xsd:string"){ |xml| xml << content }
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<bkulbida> \n
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<shevy> \n\n\n\n
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<jonmorehouse> I'm looking for a lightweight sql generator for a small daemon I'm building
<jonmorehouse> I like arel, but its not very friendly outside of rails
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<jonmorehouse> are there any other alternatives, anyone would recommend?
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<jeregrine> does ruby "freeze" constants?
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<yxhuvud> jeregrine: no.
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<jeregrine> sigh.
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<yxhuvud> they are constant in that they refer to the same object, not that the object can't be changed.
<yxhuvud> unless you are asking if you can change so that it refer to something totally different. That is possible but you will get a warning (at least for the naive way to do it)
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<jeregrine> worried more about allocating a new string everytime
<jeregrine> as always, seems like my memory grows and grows and grows
<jeregrine> and I am here struggling to figure out why
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<yxhuvud> post your code in a pastebin etc.
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<yxhuvud> preferably a minimal variant that still show the issue.
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<jeregrine> ruby 2.2, IF the app is under load it GC works proper and memory goes up and then way down. if the app is under like 1 request per minute, memory grows forever
<jeregrine> untill I need to reboot everything
<jeregrine> saw some of it in 2.1.2 more consistent in 2.2
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<jeregrine> yxhuvud: pretty big app with lots of deps.
<jeregrine> unfortunately
<spicymagpie> that's odd. what server?
<jeregrine> puma
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<ddv> jrdnull, we used to have problems with the generational gc pre 2.2, not in 2.2 anymore
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<ddv> jeregrine*
<jeregrine> im not sure where the issue is TBH
<ddv> jeregrine, sounds like a memory leak in one of the gems you're using
<jeregrine> of course :(
<jeregrine> prolly in one of the 3-4 different http client libs that one my gems all use differently
<jeregrine> or json parsers
<jeregrine> or xml parsers
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<ddv> jeregrine, load your app on jruby and use something like visualvm to figure out what's happening
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<jeregrine> ddv: thanks for the tip
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<spicymagpie> if it's rails (though I know this channel is not for Rails), you may use sth like rack-miniprofiler
<jeregrine> spicymagpie: API written with roda
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<patric100e99> if I have an array of objects that respond to a method and output a value, why cannot I do arr.max(&:method) ?
<patric100e99> i have to do arr.max {|item| item.method }
<patric100e99> just curious why the shorthand syntax doesn't work
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<havenwood> patric100e99: Check out #max_by: http://ruby-doc.org/core-2.2.0/Enumerable.html#method-i-max_by
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<patric100e99> havenwood: ahhhh
<patric100e99> cool. thanks
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<jonmorehouse> anyone know a good way to generate sql statements with ruby, without using an orm?
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<pipework> jonmorehouse: I'd suggest the String class.
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<pipework> trololol. Maybe sequel? I don't know, most things are about ORM stuff. But ActiveRecord has some neat stuff too.
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<bricker> jonmorehouse: You can use Arel
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<pipework> ActiveRecord, which is a bit saner to use than arel directly for most things, has some neat support for returning hash representations of the tables you'd return in SQL.
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<jonmorehouse> bricker: arel doesn't work without the underlying connection
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<jonmorehouse> I'm using event machine and the eventmachine postgres client
<jonmorehouse> so it doesn't play as nicely :(
<jonmorehouse> I'm going to try and use active record
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<pipework> Aww, why using event machine?
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<pipework> Why not like jruby and any event reactor that'll work on the JVM?
<pipework> If you want a reactor, that is.
<bricker> Just use the Node.js rubygem: https://github.com/rafaelfranca/node
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<pipework> lololol
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<jonmorehouse> mainly, I just wanted to use eventmachine
<jonmorehouse> hadn't used it before, and thought it would be a good foray into the async side of ruby
<jonmorehouse> it seems to be working good so far, I guess
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<jonmorehouse> mehh, maybe I should just write the sql by hand. Does that sound wreckless?
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<eam> pipework: pretty much every DBI layer has support for returning hash representations of rows
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<eam> totally unrelated to ORM
<pipework> eam: Yeah, that's why I suggested it.
<bricker> jonmorehouse: no it does not sound reckless
<eam> jonmorehouse: writing your own SQL is fine, just don't interpolate arguments
<pipework> jonmorehouse: Not really. Just another language.
<pipework> Handle input safely.
<eam> if anything, using an ORM is reckless :)
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<jonmorehouse> eam: thank you :)
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<eam> sir I'm going to have to ticket you for gross exhibition of abstraction
<jonmorehouse> I'm totally anti-orm. I like writing ruby code, not active record code
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<atmosx> jonmorehouse: have tried sequel?
<jonmorehouse> atmosx: mehh
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<jonmorehouse> it is cool, but I don't have enough time to dig under the scenes and see how it would work with eventmachine and my postgres pool
<atmosx> okay I'm too old for this.
<atmosx> I'm off to bed bbl
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<ellisTAA> can i create a hash whose key is a variable and value is a variable??
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<tmtwd> ellisTAA: i believe so
<ellisTAA> hmmm
<pipework> Have you tried?
<cphrmky> you can create a hash where the key is whatever the value of a varible is
<tmtwd> you can do a hash with anything
<tmtwd> hashes are kind of supposed to replace most data structures
<pipework> ^what
<tmtwd> so it is super flexible
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<cphrmky> This will work: foo => :my_key; bar = 'my value'; hsh = { foo => bar }
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<tmtwd> pipework: they can be stacks, queues, lists etc
<pipework> tmtwd: Arrays are more flexible.
<tmtwd> pipework: you need both
<ellisTAA> when i return the has it returns the variable name and not the variable value
<pipework> Hashes can be inefficient for an array.
<pipework> tmtwd: Sure.
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<pipework> Hashes and arrays are good datastructures, by which you can make other neat things.
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<ellisTAA> can someone tell me what they think lines 19 - 23 are asking for? it looks like i have to have an add method interact with an entries method but that seems weird .. https://gist.github.com/ellisTAA/038c42895bf9a65f9be2
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<bricker> ellisTAA: looks like "add" just merges into a hash, and "entries" is the keys for that hash
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<ellisTAA> just merges into a hash? i thought it was accepting a hash as an argument? does merge into a hash mean something else?
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<bricker> ellisTAA: @d.entries is a hash, and you pass another has to add(), and those two hashes get merged together
<pipework> ellisTAA: It doesn't matter what it actually does, just that you implement the method that adheres to that interface and produces the expected result.
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<ellisTAA> how do they merge? through a method like push or is merge a concept i need to go read about
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<_2_tanty> ok:(
<ellisTAA> pipework: what do you mean “interface”
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<pipework> ellisTAA: The method has a signature. It accepts arguments or it doesn't, however many there may be.
<bricker> ellisTAA: merge is like push, kinda
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<bricker> ellisTAA: look at the hash documentation for 'merge'
<ellisTAA> k
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<tejas-manohar> ruby getto read stdin in online coding challenges and all
<tejas-manohar> i just use gets right? and maybe gets.chomp to cut the random \n's
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<tejas-manohar> ruby getto read stdin in online coding challenges and all --> to read stdin in ruby for online coding challenges and all
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<mozzarella> what the fuck dude
<mozzarella> ask a proper question
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<chipotle> i'm new to programming and ruby. i've worked with drupal but haven't really had to code anything for several years. what IDE/text editor do you use? i was thinking about sublime text or atom, but atom i hear is very slow? and i don't know how to evaluate IDEs...
<tejas-manohar> ok new question
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<tejas-manohar> i want to read STDIn in online coding challenges for ruby-- do i use gets? do i always use gets.chomp? im looking at multiline things im reading from STDIN
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<tejas-manohar> mozzarella: ^
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