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<cjm_>
Hi Folks, how do I reconcile bundler and gem? When I execute "rake time:zones:local" I'm told to try "bundle exec ..." which works. the problem is there are two versions and bundler and gem disagree.
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<lkebin>
Hello
<lkebin>
I'm a newer for use Ruby. I get a problem for rubygem
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<lkebin>
I'm using redmine . and it need install capybara. When I install the capybara 1.1.4 I get the error is need rubyzip, I have install the rubyzip 0.9.9, seems no valid
<lkebin>
My ruby version is 1.8.7
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<cpt_yossarian>
upgrade to ruby 1.9+. what OS are you using?
<lkebin>
CentOS
<cpt_yossarian>
does your package manager have a ruby1.9 package?
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<lkebin>
No, The latest it 1.8.7
<lkebin>
The latest is 1.8.7
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<lkebin>
Any other source provide the latest version ?
<cpt_yossarian>
did you already run gem update to see if it can update with 1.8.7?
<cpt_yossarian>
*sudo gem update
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<lkebin>
I did run yum update.
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<lkebin>
and only 1.8.7 for ruby
<lkebin>
You mean gem or yum ?
<cpt_yossarian>
try running sudo gem update. i
<cpt_yossarian>
gem, not yum
<lkebin>
Okay, Let me try
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* pontiki
throws a catch-22 at cpt_yossarian
* cpt_yossarian
can't catch it because in order to catch it, he has fly more missions
<shevy>
oh pontiki knows alan arkin
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<pontiki>
pfft. joseph heller, you philistine
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<cpt_yossarian>
not a fan?
<pontiki>
huge fan
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<cpt_yossarian>
ah :)
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<shevy>
my generation only watches movies, reading novels is frowned upon
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<pontiki>
lies, lies and more lies
<cpt_yossarian>
shevy: i'm probably part of your generation
<lkebin>
[root@office redmine]# gem update
<lkebin>
Updating installed gems
<lkebin>
Updating actionmailer
<lkebin>
ERROR: Error installing actionmailer:
<lkebin>
i18n requires Ruby version >= 1.9.3.
<lkebin>
Updating actionpack
<lkebin>
Killed
<lkebin>
cpt_yossarian: It's failed.
<cpt_yossarian>
lkebin, i don't know how much luck you're going to have with such an old version of ruby
<Andrevan>
I've generally used minimagick since it is basically compatible with rmagick, but smaller
<Andrevan>
however I just use carrier_wave
<Andrevan>
which has like an OO definition of image formats
<Andrevan>
you get an uploader class which you can mount onto activerecord objects etc
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<Andrevan>
but yeah rmagick is fine
<Andrevan>
but if you're running this once and not maintaining it and it works with File operations and a bunch of calls out to the command line why not
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<echosystm>
thanks dude
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<echosystm>
looks like rmagick will do what i need
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<Macaveli>
Mornin
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<shevy>
extra difficulty: add one method to a module that makes use of a block
<shevy>
then link to a pastie with your new code
<anitchrist>
did something just fly by?
<anitchrist>
lol
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<anitchrist>
I will get there eventually
<anitchrist>
I have the class thing kinda figured out mods and methods are still a bit hazy
<shevy>
ok good
<shevy>
so modules are next
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<shevy>
I'll show you the basic
<shevy>
module Foo; end
<shevy>
now you must fill it with methods
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<shevy>
and then you should show how you call that method :)
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<lkebin>
Thanks guys. I got it for ruby's problem.
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<lkebin>
But I have another question, Why does the rubygem can't check
<anitchrist>
I find it interesting that a program like privateinternetaccess utilizes ruby... its got me curious
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<shevy>
lkebin is your question finished?
<shevy>
anitchrist that is a ruby script? what can it do?
<shevy>
the thing with ruby is that it can be very elegant poetry
<anitchrist>
not a script
<anitchrist>
an application that utilizes ruby
<anitchrist>
as far as I can tell
<shevy>
ok but
<shevy>
if it uses ruby
<shevy>
I assume it has some ruby scripts right?
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<anitchrist>
it must
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<anitchrist>
thats what's got me curious
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<pontiki>
off to bed
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<dawkirst>
hey guys, what is the best way to go about setting up complicated state (along the lines of creating multiple associated ORM objects, for example) for tests?
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<brocktimus>
dawkirst: how complex and in how many tests are you having to do it?
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<dawkirst>
brocktimus: there are a few different objects involved (about 8, which needs to be created multiple times, and associated to various other objects), and the same setup is more or less used in multiple tests
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<brocktimus>
dawkirst: Is that like 10% of the codebase or > 50% of the codebase though? If its smaller I'd just use a few private helper methods which assist me before looking for libraries to help
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<dawkirst>
brocktimus: it's more than 50% of the codebase, but I'm also not necessarily looking for a library to help per se. I think helper methods would make sense. Where would these live though? In spec/spec_helpers maybe?
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<brocktimus>
dawkirst: I don't use spec style so much, but in MiniTest I'd just create either a module with helpers and include that into appropriate classes or be a bit lazier and just shove it in the superclass itself. I'm guessing you can do similar with specs.
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<dawkirst>
Thanks brocktimus
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<dawkirst>
brocktimus: thoughts on using factories?
<The_NetZ>
so, suppose I have some marshal'd data containing arrays, that always start with a nil value on array[0]
<The_NetZ>
any nifty way to skip that in reading in?
<brocktimus>
dawkirst: don't have any :-). Haven't needed to resort to them. I have a really minimal set of fixtures and then create most stuff I need on the fly.
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<dawkirst>
brocktimus: cool :)
<brocktimus>
Recently I've really been trying to divorce my logic classes from having a strong reliance on ORM / persistance. For example passing in array of related records rather than explicitly using relationship.
<brocktimus>
Whole swathe of extra problems probably and I've just started doing it. But I'm finding its letting me right really detailed "inner" tests with minimal persistance required. Then still having broader tests that still stretch persistance legs.
<crome>
that might not be the best idea if your queries return thousands of results
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<brocktimus>
crome: in my case it has a hard upperbound at 10s of "things" (they aren't records per se). But as with everything YMMV, just have a play around and see what sticks :-).
<brocktimus>
No silver bullet and one size doesn't and won't fit all
<crome>
also, passing in relations is not a bad idea as long as you treat them as arrays/enumerators in your logic classes
<brocktimus>
crome: agreed, thats actually a better idea
<brocktimus>
I was too stuck in details, my use case was yesterday and very weird :-P
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<brocktimus>
Was just surprised because with a small class extraction something went from very awkward to trivial to test.
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<dawkirst>
brocktimus: yeah that separation makes a lot of sense -- the global state that comes with the ORM makes me uneasy sometimes
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<brocktimus>
So fun question, any advice on learning new languages? I feel like if I dont have a real "use case" to work on I can't really assess it.
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<banister>
brocktimus write a game
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<vitaly>
hey guys
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<vitaly>
any1 has experience with big data?
<vitaly>
^^
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<vitaly>
guuuys?
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<usrenmae>
What's the proper way of deploying rails onto production servers, considering there is no need to switch ruby versions there, so rvm is not an option. As far as I understand there is no proper support in more or less up to date generic packages for debian-like OS's, so it's not enough just to apt-get install ruby-full, and then "gem install rails"? So I still need to apply some magic with apt-get installing multiple unclear dependencies to even set
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<vitaly>
usrenmae: if you're deploying to heroku then there're no problems
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<vitaly>
in other case you can package app in docker and then setup docker on server
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<usrenmae>
vitaly, thanks. I'll take a look.
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<vitaly>
Guys please help me architect a problem..
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<kaspergrubbe>
usrenmae: I use rbenv on my servers, and install the wanted ruby version there when I bootstrap them, but some people don't like having build-tools on a server,
<usrenmae>
vitaly: you can be more specific according to your big data question so someone can even try to start helping you.
<vitaly>
I have task channel and tasks inside..
<vitaly>
tasks can be answered limited number of times.. say 3 times..
<kaspergrubbe>
it's also a bit slow, a compiled version would be preferred, and I might want to look into that
<vitaly>
but multiple users have access to a task..
<vitaly>
how do I show task to a user?
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<vitaly>
problem is that I should not show task if it was already answered by the user or if task has enough people to work (online_count + answers_count = max_answers)
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<vitaly>
it's easy to SQLize problem (which I did).. although problem here is to maintain online_count accurate
<usrenmae>
kaspergrubbe: yeah, that's what was my initial intention - to avoid having all sorts of *-dev libraries + build tools on production server.
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<vitaly>
In general:
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<vitaly>
service is about micro tasking.. so users can join task channel and start working on tasks, they see one input/task at a time.. Some channels require task to be answered several times (like 3 answers per task).. so I need a smart mechanism of choosing task to show
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<vitaly>
task shouldn't be shown if it reached max answers or answers_count + workers_count = max_answers..
<vitaly>
any ideas how to best solve this?
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* jhass
double checks that this is #ruby and not #RubyOnRails
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<lessless>
can you please advice a possible solutions for refactoring?
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<Mon_Ouie>
Well first of all it doesn't work if there's an element that doesn't respect your condition in data
<Mon_Ouie>
Because then the accumulator is going to become nil
<Mon_Ouie>
That method looks like it should use Enumerable#select anyway
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<Timgauthier>
hi
<jrd0>
hi
<roolo>
http://guides.rubyonrails.org/i18n.html - there is supposed to be activemodel instead of activerecord. At least for current version. In the errors.rb it is written correctly
<roolo>
kaspergrubbe: Too long ;) Hope i'll don't need it soon :)
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<roolo>
kaspergrubbe: But thanks
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<roolo>
Hm, now it works with active_record. Anyway it's described differently in errors.rb and Rails guides
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<roolo>
*activerecord
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<usrenmae>
/clear/clear
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<ddv>
usrenmae: /clear/clear/clear
<zalmoxes>
using ruby 2.1.4p265 I get 'Encoding::InvalidByteSequenceError' when trying to use JSON.parse. how can I avoid this
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<jhass>
zalmoxes: make sure your input is UTF-8
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<zalmoxes>
how?
<jhass>
depends
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<jhass>
you would need to describe what your input is and stuff like that
<zalmoxes>
it's a json feed i'm getting using the restclient gem. contact information so ther'es probably lots of names with special characters
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<jhass>
which isn't a problem
<bradland>
zalmoxes: special characters are fine, so long as the data is unicode.
<jhass>
^
<zalmoxes>
Encoding.default_external = "utf-8" resolved th4e problem
<jhass>
so your system isn't on a utf-8? that's sad
<jhass>
*a utf-8 locale
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<bradland>
hrm
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<zalmoxes>
it's a docker container. could be why
<bradland>
Encoding.default_external should be utf-8 under most systems
<bradland>
i’d look in to that, because it could be an indicator of an environment issue
<bradland>
check your shell locale setting
<bradland>
or inspect the value of Encoding.default_external *before* setting it to see what’s coming from the system
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<bradland>
if your locale is set to use some strange text encoding, you’ll have massive headaches later when you discover that all your shell utilities are generating files with LATIN-1 encoding or something silly like that
<bradland>
sinatra doesn’t dictate much in the way of project structure, but if you google around, there are lots of suggestions. keep an eye on dates though. some of them are rather old.
<bradland>
in general, you get to decide your sinatra project’s structure based on how large the project will be.
<bradland>
the best way to learn idiomatic ruby is to have a look at existing projects
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<jhass>
also post your stuff here and ask for suggestions
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<L8>
jhass, I'll do, thanks :)
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<zalmoxes>
is there a gem or something that would read pdf text? I have a series of PDFs i'd like to batch process and need to read the user names/IDs from the PDF
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<zalmoxes>
pdf-reader seems to be working
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<Takumo>
anyone here use Suacelabs? I can't get it to actually run my tests, it keeps throwing an error that I'm not using sauce-connect -- Because I don't want to connect to a locally tunnelled connection!
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<GaryOak__>
Good Morning!
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<jhass>
hi!
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<GaryOak__>
jhass: How's it going?
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<lessless>
why there is no company key in the user hash after: user.merge(company: user.delete(:company_id))
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<apeiros_>
lessless: in the returned hash? there definitively will be
<apeiros_>
how do you figure there isn't?
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<lessless>
apeiros_, lol
<lessless>
of course
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<shevy>
lessless admit to it, the syntax confuses you!
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<shevy>
cats: or :cats !
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<apeiros_>
lessless: sooo? problem solved?
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<cats>
meow
<thiagovsk__>
cats: meow
<lessless>
shevy: I pay it off to the oxygen shortage :) spend all day in the apartments
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<lessless>
apeiros_yes! thank you :)
<cats>
meow meow?
<GaryOak__>
I feel like I'm on 4chan right now
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<thiagovsk__>
cats: meow
<cats>
thiagovsk__: meow?
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cats:
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matz:
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<bashusr>
how do i check if a parameter passed to a class method is the same type as the class or a subchild? I know I want to use is_a? but param.is_a?(self) doesn't seem to work
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<apeiros_>
bashusr: then you're doing something else wrong. that should work.
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<shevy>
is_a? works like so: is_a? Array
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<canton7>
is_a?(self.class) I think?
<apeiros_>
>> class Foo; def self.check(param) param.is_a?(self); end; end; class Bar < Foo; end; Foo.check Bar.new
<apeiros_>
you said *class* method. but you defined an *instance* method
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<bashusr>
oh, so if i want it an instance method, how would i do it?
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<apeiros_>
with an instance method, it's indeed as canton7 said: self.class
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<bashusr>
gotcha, ok thanks
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<bashusr>
so moral of the story... self is the class when it is defined in an class method; in a instance method, self is the object?
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<apeiros_>
yes
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<shevy>
canton7 haha yeah same here; actually my brain did not register consciously that he needed a class method and thus the syntax would be different as opposed to what I would normally use
<bashusr>
great, thanks
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<apeiros_>
and since a class is an object, self is also "the object" in a class method
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<lapidary>
I had some weird stuff with rails, running pristine cleared it up, is that a common problem when you upgrade gems? what causes them to get messy
<lapidary>
outside of manually editing a gem
<speakingcode-wor>
depends on what you mean by messy/weird stuff
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<speakingcode-wor>
i use rvm and separate gemsets for most projects lapidary.. update via bundle update but usually version lock things
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<workmad3>
lapidary: new versions of rubygems may have optimised the repository layout, processed the spec differently, generated a slightly different bin-wrapper, etc.
<lapidary>
I did that, and it worked, my question is more of what all does gem pristine do
<speakingcode-wor>
if you're running multiple projects off the same gemset you can get hairy issues with versioning when different projects depend on different versions of the same gem afaik
<speakingcode-wor>
ah
<speakingcode-wor>
pristine reverts modifactions you made
<workmad3>
lapidary: so you'd generally find you may want/need to run gem pristine if you've updated rubygems itself
<workmad3>
and yeah, if you edit the gem in-situ, pristine removes those mods :)
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<lapidary>
the pristine command got hung up by some old gems from rails3 after I upgraded to rails4… I deleted the old gems and it completed.
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<havenwood>
gem pristine --all --env-shebang
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<lapidary>
that would have saved me some time?
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<kanhaiya>
I'm facing an issue while running command bowline bundle
<kanhaiya>
can anyone tell me how to resolve this problem
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<bashusr>
what am i doing wrong?? RSpec::Mocks::MockExpectationError: Double received unexpected message :should_receive with (:method) - what am i doing wrong?
<Cat_1>
bashusr - I dunno what's the test?
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<havenwood>
kanhaiya: `bowline bundle` isn't the same as `bowline-bundle`
<kanhaiya>
sorry I'm talking about bowline-bundle only
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<bashusr>
oh, looking at the wrong version... they changed syntax in rspecs mocks 3.1
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<havenwood>
kanhaiya: so you're running `bowline-bundle`? are you getting an error? if so, paste the command you're running and the entire error to gist.github.com.
<kanhaiya>
okk thanks. I'll do it
<havenwood>
kanhaiya: and give us a link to the gist.
<kanhaiya>
ok
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<kanhaiya>
hello I'm facing this issue while running command bowline-bundle
<kanhaiya>
I have posted the error that I'm getting on gits.github.com
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<kanhaiya>
the link is gist:e898a279f75a2202e826
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<kanhaiya>
Can someone plz help me resolve the issue
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<havenwood>
kanhaiya: Why's it important? Are you working on an old existing bowline app or making a new one?
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<kanhaiya>
I have to make a new one bt initially was trying with an already existing one. bt when I tried running it I found this error
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<Ikri>
errr so I appear to have broken ruby
<havenwood>
Ikri: oh no!
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<havenwood>
Ikri: how so?
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<havenwood>
kanhaiya: If you really need bowline working, years after it has been deprecated and fallen into nonuse, then you're going to have quite a few cobwebs to dust off. It's likely going to be a nontrivial effort, as already mentioned.
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<bricker>
someguy: yes
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<someguy>
bricker: great, thanks!
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<rubyonrailed>
Can someone help me turn this into an array? "[[[256, 498]]] [[[256, 498]], []] [[[256, 498]], [], []] [[[256, 498]], [], [], []]"
<theo__>
/msg NickServ identify motherboard
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<theo__>
Can someone help with this error: /usr/lib/ruby/vendor_ruby/sass/script/literal.rb:7:in `<module:Script>': superclass mismatch for class Literal (TypeError) ?
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<theo__>
don't know how to solve it.
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<havenwood>
rubyonrailed: Where'd you get that String? It's not a valid Array even if you wanted to eval it.
<jhass>
would need a local reproducer to dig in further
<havenwood>
jhass: i'm all wrong today... need more coffee!! (and also my laptop is in for repairs so my binding as all off too >.>)
<jhass>
I know these days
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<jhass>
having too much of them lately
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<theo__>
jhass, yes, same issue.
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<jhass>
theo__: what about my first question?
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<Fire-Dragon-DoL>
mhhh I was looking for a gem that can take an e-mail and output me its body in html (you know, stripping out all those =20, the headers and such), does anyone know something like it?
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<theo__>
jhass, seems it's typical django project I need to run on my local. I see only compass configs here.
<crome>
Fire-Dragon-DoL: the mail gem can read raw emails afair
<Fire-Dragon-DoL>
crome: thanks, looking for that
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<jhass>
theo__: so no Gemfile in the project root?
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<theo__>
no
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<jhass>
theo__: you don't seem to use the latest version of sass, try updating
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<theo__>
Sass 3.4.0.rc.3 (Selective Steve)
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<theo__>
also tried 2 other versions. Same result.
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<theo__>
ubuntu 14
<jhass>
the paths a bit weird too
<jhass>
did you try the latest version though?
<theo__>
updated ruby 1.9 to 2.0, same result.
<theo__>
Compass 1.1.0.alpha.3 (Polaris)
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<theo__>
all is latest versions
<jhass>
nope
<theo__>
also tried compass 1.0.1
<jhass>
ruby isn't, 2.2 is the latest, sass isn't, 3.4.9 is the latest
<jhass>
but
<jhass>
let's take a closer look at how the error changes
<jhass>
is it always ending up on /usr/lib/ruby/vendor_ruby/sass/script/literal.rb:1 ?
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<cleopatra>
hello ruby people
<cleopatra>
:)
<cleopatra>
happy new year :P
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<chipotle>
hey cleopatra !
<theo__>
jhass, ruby/vendor_ruby/sass/script/literal.rb:7 every time
<cleopatra>
hey chipotle :)
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<theo__>
even when I try without --sass key: sass --compass ./project/static/newdesign/styles/fonts.scss --trace
<cleopatra>
who is blogger?
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<cleopatra>
or who using blogger
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<jhass>
theo__: I would make sure to get rid of all installations of sass
<jhass>
and probably ruby as well
<jhass>
then use a recent ruby and rubygems
<chipotle>
cleopatra: i moved to wordpress awhile ago
<chipotle>
why what's up?
<jhass>
install with gem install --user-install sass compass
<bradland>
man i love chipotle
<jhass>
theo__: that last step will then warn you about a path not being in your PATH, which you should then add to it
<cleopatra>
i want create a nice blog
<bradland>
a nice blog has more to do with the content than the tools used to create the website :)
<cleopatra>
but I have problems with the change the templates
<jhass>
theo__: my suspicion is that debian (which ubuntu inherited the ruby package from) messed up your load paths and now multiple different versions of sass get loaded
<chipotle>
ilu2 bradland
<cleopatra>
nah i no have money for buy domain and hosting
<chipotle>
cleopatra: i'm new to ruby. i come from drupal. now i'm trying to learn ruby!
<chipotle>
cleopatra: blogger isn't built on ruby...
<chipotle>
cleopatra: why not use wordpress.com? it's free...
<chipotle>
and you have access to lots more themes
<bradland>
i wrote a ruby script that analyzes my average visits/dollars per week spent at chipotle
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<bradland>
the results were…. startling
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<cleopatra>
mmmm
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<cleopatra>
let me check
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<bradland>
cleopatra: many ruby bloggers use a static site generator to build their blog, rather than a striaght ruby blogging engine
<theo__>
jhass, thank. Will make a cofee and think what to do with this info :)
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<cleopatra>
bradland, the problem is I have no money for hosting or domains for that reason I seek alternatives such as blogger
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<bradland>
mkay. blogger or wordpress.com is its then! :)
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<bradland>
not sure how that ties in to the move from Drupal to Ruby though…
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<cleopatra>
:)
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<chipotle>
oh you can use ruby with blogger?
<chipotle>
bradland: no, i'm the one who is on drupal, trying to learn ruby
<chipotle>
i read chris pine's learn to program book
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<bradland>
doh, got confused by all the c names
<chipotle>
sorry :)
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<atmosx>
chipotle: what do you mean use 'ruby with blogger' ?
<bradland>
atmosx: this is my mess
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<bradland>
i mixed up their question and cleopatra’s questions
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<atmosx>
chipotle: octopress is a very nice ruby/jekyll based platform and you can host your blog at github which is offers very nice domain names imho. nickname.github.io
<bradland>
cleopatra wants to know if blogger is any good
<bradland>
chipotle is just here to remind us how delicious burrito bowls are
<atmosx>
bradland: I mixed them too apparently
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<atmosx>
bradland: that can't be a coincidence
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<bradland>
although you make a really good point about the github hosting for jekyll based blogs that cleopatra may wish to consider in their search for a blogging platform
<bradland>
is octopress still maintained
<bradland>
?
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<cleopatra>
MMmmm
<pontiki>
yes, actually, and there should be a new version
* atmosx
has done several nginx/rails installations
<havenwood>
TrOuBleStArTeR: hi
<bradland>
if you execute `rails server` from within the root of a rails project, it starts a server on port 3000 which serves your application
<havenwood>
chipotle: run what on nginx?
<havenwood>
mruby?
<TrOuBleStArTeR>
can someone have just 1 minutes to explina me one thing ?
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<havenwood>
shevy: that's cheap!!
<chipotle>
is there an app for ruby similiar to MAMP Pro for the LAMP stack? or do i need to run it all via command line and remove to turn on/off and remember all the different versions of whatever servers i'm using
<havenwood>
TrOuBleStArTeR: what's the thing?
<nonnatus>
Every time I glance at irc and see chipotle i regret skipping lunch
<havenwood>
yeah, i'm hungry
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<bradland>
chipotle: there have been a couple of apps like MAMP that have come and gone
<bradland>
i wouldn’t rely on one, because they have a tendency to become abandoned
<chipotle>
any that are still around? :)
<TrOuBleStArTeR>
havenwood thx haven, i know establish ftp session, list etc... But i would like to create a while loop, that create a socket
<wasamasa>
why do people even use LAMP
<pontiki>
chipotle: not quite sure what ruby program you wish to run
<chipotle>
so homebrew is my best bet?
<wasamasa>
are they noobs?
<TrOuBleStArTeR>
havenwood to create mutliple connection ( not send command on the same ftp session )
<chipotle>
where can i find a good tutorial/doc on setting up a homebrew based ruby environment?
<bradland>
for rack apps, you can use pow http://pow.cx
<chipotle>
i don't want to install too much shit that never gets used
<pontiki>
ruby programs don't work like perl, php or python scripts, tho
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<chipotle>
pontiki: my own!
<chipotle>
i'm trying to develop stuff in RoR or sinatra
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<wasamasa>
their inits are perfectly fine at starting the services involved
<TrOuBleStArTeR>
havenwood am i understandable ? :p
<bradland>
chipotle: i would recommend homebrew + RVM + pow
<bradland>
homebrew as your system packager
<bradland>
RVM as your ruby manager
<bradland>
and pow as your app server
<pontiki>
right, okay, then understand that those work entirely differently from the typical [XLM]AMP stack
<bradland>
add in the powder gem for managing pow easily
<havenwood>
what's MAMP? sounds scary.
<bradland>
it’s a GUI app for configuring Apache vHosts and MySQL databases
<havenwood>
ah
<bradland>
pretty slick actually
<wasamasa>
rofl
<pontiki>
Mac instead of Linux
<chipotle>
pontiki: how so?
<wasamasa>
what is wrong with these guys
<chipotle>
bradland: okay, looking into pow now
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<wasamasa>
why the hell would they click together vhosts
<chipotle>
havenwood: i like it because i can have a self contained environment on my laptop
<bradland>
chipotle: you will find that the vast majority of ruby tools are command line
<chipotle>
rather than having servers running whenever, and lots of stuff in the background running. i can just turn it all off in MAMP
<pontiki>
chipotle: rails and sinatra are *long* running applications, they don't start up, process the request, then shut down for every request that comes in
<bradland>
chipotle: pow will allow you to accomplish much of that
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<pontiki>
you start them once, and they keep responding to requests
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<havenwood>
TrOuBleStArTeR: No sorry, I don't understand. Maybe say more about what you're trying to accomplish?
<chipotle>
okay
<chipotle>
i'm looking into pow now
<pontiki>
in the ruby world, almost every server is built upon something called Rack
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<chipotle>
are there any good tutorials on how to create a nice ruby dev environment on mac?
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<TrOuBleStArTeR>
havenwood just establish an ftp connection, send a command, close it and do it again ... But when i will laucnh the command, i will lost the FTP connection, so i think i must use "socket" ( maybe ) to do this ...
<TrOuBleStArTeR>
havenwood yes i must... But i don't know how to make the system ftp client to force it establish a NEW connection every time, a new ftp session ....
<atmosx>
chipotle: hm, a few (well more than a few) vim plugins would make your vim-fu awesome and tmuxinator drb + minitest and zentest (autotest) will make make automations... swift.
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<chipotle>
i use sublime text
<chipotle>
never learned vim
* chipotle
ducks and covers
<pontiki>
it's okay
<pontiki>
use the editor you're most familiar with
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<blackoperat>
rvm & rubymine is pretty good to get stated imho
<pontiki>
subl has plenty of support for ruby coding
<bradland>
chipotle: this installfest guide looks pretty solid
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<atmosx>
well, I'm sure you can configure rvm to work with sublime too
<Dolphi>
Two new books should be arriving from Amazon today: The Pickaxe Book and Learn to Program. Does anybody have any experience with either of these books?
<havenwood>
Dolphi: yup
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<bradland>
i’d say just about everybody here has read or referenced the pickaxe book at some point or another
<kurtf>
It's been a while since I've read it, but pickaxe is quite good
<atmosx>
bradland: really awesome book but not for beginners IMHO.
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<bradland>
agree
<chipotle>
i've heard of rubymine, do you like it, blackoperat ?
<bradland>
i have a rubymine license
<havenwood>
Dolphi: Learn to Program is basic, for non-programmers and holds your hand. The Pickaxe is more of a reference.
<bradland>
i like it, but it’s heavy
<bradland>
i wouldn’t jump right in to rubymine, because it requires a fair amount of knowledge on its own
<chipotle>
Dolphi: learn to program is good, although it doens't go indepth. but read that first, then move onto the next book. the well grounded rubyist is quite nice...
<bradland>
i’d start with a text editor
<atmosx>
ruby is easy to get you going, but some concepts like singletons, reflections, blocks, etc. are very hard to grasp without prior programming bg.
<havenwood>
Dolphi: If you're now to programming go through Learn to Program first. :
<havenwood>
:)
<bradland>
chipotle: what editor have you used in the past?
<chipotle>
sublime text
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<lapidary>
what about atom
<bradland>
start with that
<chipotle>
atom is slow, i've heard
<bradland>
in general, start with what you know
<chipotle>
and it's a ST3 clone anyway
<chipotle>
but "free"
<bradland>
you’re goign to be learning a ton of new stuff
<bradland>
so manage the amount of “new” stuff you have to learn
<pontiki>
that^
<bradland>
otherwise you’re likely to hit a wall
<chipotle>
bradland: do you have any example configs for sublime text, other than 2 space indenting?
<pontiki>
if you find you're missing something, boom, it's right there
<chipotle>
well, there are lots of things out there. i'm just wondering what i should actually use, so i don't build up too much fluff
<bradland>
dude, i’ve told you like five times
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<Dolphi>
Is it possible to have two networks open at the same time? I'd like to stay on freenode, but I need to be on SynIRC.net to get into the #rpgmaker.net channel.
<Dolphi>
If it makes a difference, I am using HexChat.
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<jhass>
Dolphi: ask #hexchat then
<chipotle>
bradland: i know, there's just so much out there
<chipotle>
it's very overwhelming :/
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<chipotle>
havenwood: do you use atom now over ST3?
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<havenwood>
chipotle: i've been using TM2 and vim for Ruby recently, but i tend to switch editors often and vary by lang
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<bashusr>
i'm writing an authentication rack middleware... 2 questions, #1. how can i get the HTTP headers from the request within the middleware context and #2. If authentication fails, should i not be calling @app.call(env) or should @app.call() always be called?
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<highbass>
hey guys.. has anyone here used goliath?
<highbass>
i wanted to know if goliath can run on ruby 2.0? or it has to be 1.9.3 ?
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<nonnatus>
I believe it can.
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<nonnatus>
It’s passing in 2.0.0 on Travis CI
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<nonnatus>
BTW I’m not sure if any of the same people are around, but thanks to everyone who gave me interview advice last Thursday. Went awesome.
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<highbass>
nonnatus: ok thanks for info!
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<Dolphi>
nonnatus, What position was your interview for?
<Dolphi>
nonnatus, And congratulations!
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<shevy>
TrOuBleStArTeR you can also look at https://rubygems.org/gems/ftp_paradise but I mostly just use it from the commandline; ftp_upload *bla; or "iftp" for interactive ftp shell. I did not add threading support for multiple connections though, as I only needed a commandline script essentially
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<shevy>
are you like massively uploading pr0n or something that you need it
<TrOuBleStArTeR>
yeah
<TrOuBleStArTeR>
great
<TrOuBleStArTeR>
shevy lol
<TrOuBleStArTeR>
i'm actually do security testing
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<TrOuBleStArTeR>
like i tried explain to some over person here
<TrOuBleStArTeR>
but they d'ont really want to reply me
<TrOuBleStArTeR>
don't
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<TrOuBleStArTeR>
so it permit me to learn ruby
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<TrOuBleStArTeR>
and to release my job in the life
<TrOuBleStArTeR>
i'm in the security
<TrOuBleStArTeR>
IT
<TrOuBleStArTeR>
IT pro
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<TrOuBleStArTeR>
you know all :)
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<TrOuBleStArTeR>
still here shevy ?
<kyfho>
hi gents
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<_thegrid_>
this error happened in ubuntu
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<kyfho>
ok new to ruby here
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<TrOuBleStArTeR>
kyfho you crome is the best ...
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<kyfho>
how hard it is to count to 100, and print back each number divisible by 3 as foo, each number divisible by 5 as bar, and each number divisible by 3 and 5 as foobar
<_thegrid_>
does anyone have a suggestion, getting the rals code from gem command should be simple
<kyfho>
?
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<crome>
disclaimer: crome is actually not the best
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<_thegrid_>
do i need a public key?
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<crome>
kyfho: are you trying to solve fizzbuzz for a job application? :)
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<nonnatus>
kyfho: learn you the modulo
<TrOuBleStArTeR>
crome : you accept a PV discussion ?
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<kyfho>
then test of modulo 0 right?
<_thegrid_>
hello? gem install rails fails,, it used to be one command
<jhass>
you need to update your bookmark, 2.2 is out :P
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<shevy>
I googled
<shevy>
I use no bookmarks
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<shevy>
ok that was a lie
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<shevy>
I have many bookmarks but they are more like "hey cool, that page seems nice; let's bookmark it to read it later" ... and then never read it again...
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<wasamasa>
it's to shut up your brain
<crome>
and that's exactly what bookmarks are for
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<nonnatus>
I can’t have bookmarks, because I have to be organized. Anytime I have my bookmarks neatly categorized, my wife gets ahold of the laptop and I end up with 3,000 links to shoes in my recipes folder
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<crome>
lol
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<wasamasa>
sounds like a nightmare
<nonnatus>
But maybe that’s just smart thinking on her part. Where else am I going to notice them?
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<wasamasa>
I don't believe it's on purpose
<shevy>
lol
<shevy>
so now you are saying that she does not think
<nonnatus>
No, I’m pretty sure it’s intentional. Her way of messing with me.
<nonnatus>
And of getting shoes.
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<terrellt>
nonnatus' wife is a genius.
<nonnatus>
terrellt: She honestly is. That’s why I know it’s on purpose.
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<mozzarella>
I like shoes
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<shevy>
I like toes
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<nonnatus>
Then you guys should meet in the middle and wear sandals
<godd2>
if t1 is in an infinite loop, that code will never get down to the t1.kill line
<TrOuBleStArTeR>
no other to lauch the threads than the .join ???
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<workmad3>
TrOuBleStArTeR: .join doesn't launch a thread
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<TrOuBleStArTeR>
godd2 i understand, but how to do so ?
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<workmad3>
TrOuBleStArTeR: .join causes the current thread to wait until the another thread has finished
<godd2>
TrOuBleStArTeR when you create a new thread, it immediately starts computing
<TrOuBleStArTeR>
workmad3 oh ... i've not understand the documentation so
<TrOuBleStArTeR>
so
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<TrOuBleStArTeR>
i must the .join with other way ...
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<TrOuBleStArTeR>
must change
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<workmad3>
TrOuBleStArTeR: if you kill a thread, you don't call .join on it
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<workmad3>
TrOuBleStArTeR: .join is a way of saying "I can't do anything until you're done, so I'll wait for you to finish patiently" while .kill is a way of saying "You need to stop right now"
<godd2>
TrOuBleStArTeR .join is like a teacher giving a student the only pencil in the classroom and saying "just give back the pencil when you're done"
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<TrOuBleStArTeR>
ok
<godd2>
but if the student is never finished using the pencil, the teacher will never get back the pencil
<TrOuBleStArTeR>
so how launch a thread that can be killed without waiting him to finish ?
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<workmad3>
TrOuBleStArTeR: just create it and when you want to kill it, call .kill
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<godd2>
TrOuBleStArTeR you don't have to do anything extra
<workmad3>
TrOuBleStArTeR: don't call .join on the thread
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<TrOuBleStArTeR>
lol
<godd2>
once you do Thread.new it launches right away
<TrOuBleStArTeR>
ok i'm trying now
<TrOuBleStArTeR>
t1 = Thread.new{connexion()}
<TrOuBleStArTeR>
t2 = Thread.new{connexion()}
<TrOuBleStArTeR>
t1.kill
<TrOuBleStArTeR>
t2.kill
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<TrOuBleStArTeR>
not laucnhed
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<godd2>
TrOuBleStArTeR can I private message you?
<TrOuBleStArTeR>
godd2 yes no pb
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<workmad3>
TrOuBleStArTeR: to be kind, you could do 't1.kill if t1.alive?' when you wanted to kill it
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<TrOuBleStArTeR>
workmad3 ok mad :)
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