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<fezziwig>
Hello, Ruby noob here... I have installed Ruby on my Debian system (Linode), so that I can run Compass/SASS. I seem to have installed it two different ways, once "directly" and one using RVM. Is there some way to (a) remove the non-RVM version, and/or (b) to ensure that the RVM one runs by default?
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<centrx>
fezziwig, I suppose you could remove the Debian package
<centrx>
fezziwig, Assuming that is how you installed one of them
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<fezziwig>
centrx -- yes but right now, I am not even sure I have RVM installed
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<fezziwig>
I try to install it, but then I get all kinds of "-bash: cd: /root/.rvm: No such file or directory"
<fezziwig>
It's weird -- I could have sworn it was already installed
<LRN>
how do i debug and/or enable verbose logging for ext configuration during ruby build?
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<LRN>
make V=1 doesn't do that (it verboses tools invocations, but not the configuration process)
<LRN>
i.e. right now all i see is "configuring digest". I want to know which script does the configuration, and see what it does while configuring, and how it comes up with certain configuration parameters (such as CFLAGS)
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<LRN>
i think that extmake() runs the extconf.rb script, but i don't quite get how to make it spew more diagnostic stuff
<centrx>
LRN, Try in the daytime for America/Europe
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<TaQ2>
guys? what happened do Jim Weirich?
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<yorickpeterse>
Passed away, don't think anybody outside knows how yet
<TaQ2>
Jesus, he was tweeting 13 hours ago ... do you know the cause, yorickpeterse?
<yorickpeterse>
I don't think anybody knows atm besides his family
<TaQ2>
:-( he was a good guy
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<apeiros>
wild guess - heart attack :(
<yorickpeterse>
lets not speculate until the official news comes out
<TaQ2>
ok
<yorickpeterse>
takes one nerd to spiral things out of control
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<hackeron_>
hey, I need to parse this with Ruby http://pastie.org/8751742 - it is the output from rabbitmqctl status - anyone know any existing library I can use?
<darix>
hackeron_: the github guys have a parser for erlang terms
<hackeron_>
TypeError: Invalid magic value for BERT string
<hackeron_>
any ideas?
<darix>
hackeron_: it is not my library.
<darix>
i just know they use it to call into erlang from ruby or vice versa
<hackeron_>
perhaps a different library, bert doesn't seem to work :)
<darix>
naw it is bert -> bertrpc -> ernie
<darix>
but the erlang terms stuff is in bert
<darix>
maybe ask the author if it should handle it
<certainty>
doesn't this make sense? I'm looking at the output of encode.
<darix>
i wonder if the token maes in your example should really have ""
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<hackeron_>
darix: I filed a bug, I cannot see anything in the tests that implies it can take something like [{"x-max-hops",1},{"x-internal-purpose","federation"}] and decode it to a ruby hash though :/
<certainty>
that is not a bug
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<certainty>
it attempts to decode the binary representation of erlang terms as i understand the README and the code
<hackeron_>
certainty: how do I get it to decode the text representation?
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<certainty>
hackeron_: i don't think it's possible with this gem
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<certainty>
i don't know it though, i'm just scanning the sources
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<ruby-lang747>
hello
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<ruby-lang747>
how to use cocao gem
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<ruby-lang747>
can anybody tell me how can i use this ruby IRC please
<ruby-lang747>
!!
<ljarvis>
ruby-lang747: you ask questions and wait patiently for a reply
<ruby-lang747>
thank you for kind reply ljarvis :-)
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<ruby-lang747>
what type of question can i ask here ? ruby only or can i ask ror also?
<ljarvis>
ruby-lang747: #ror for rails questions
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<yorickpeterse>
ruby-lang747: asking how to use X doesn't really work, did you read the documentation?
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<yorickpeterse>
aww yiss, increased code coverage by removing code
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<maloik_>
arrrrr, cfp opening tomorrow
<maloik_>
the site is pretty much done
<yorickpeterse>
god damn it, that means I have to work on another talk :<
<yorickpeterse>
haven't even started on the first one
<yorickpeterse>
or I could just make one talk and keep milking that one for the next 5 years
<yorickpeterse>
which seems to be more common than should be
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<maloik_>
that's because they take a LOT of work
<yorickpeterse>
Yes, but I see folks doing the same talk a dozen times
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<yorickpeterse>
either way
<yorickpeterse>
that's an entire rant on its own :P
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<ljarvis>
garhrrllabahhh postgres
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<yorickpeterse>
pg_lol
<yorickpeterse>
you're just doing it wrong :>
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<ljarvis>
nou
<ljarvis>
slow query is slow
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<ljarvis>
one thing i like (and dislike) about sql, is how one query can take like 5 minutes, and some dick comes in and changes 5 characters it it turns into 0.3 seconds
<yorickpeterse>
Knowing thy DB helps
<ljarvis>
not really
<yorickpeterse>
(that includes how to write proper queries)
<ljarvis>
i mean there's 'knowing' and there's breathing that shit
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<ljarvis>
I know pg pretty well, I even know how to optimize queries pretty well
<ljarvis>
but every now and then i see some messed up query that saved 300% because of a stupid change
<yorickpeterse>
heh
<ljarvis>
tl;dr herp derp postgrerp
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<yorickpeterse>
Mongo has similar shit when you use the aggregration framework
<yorickpeterse>
Because it acts as a pipeline order suddenly becomes *very* important
<yorickpeterse>
oh, you first project and then match? Let me just iterate over *every* darn document there is first
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<ljarvis>
heh
<yorickpeterse>
eh
<yorickpeterse>
woops, wrong window
<ljarvis>
was that meant for #yorickrants?
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<yorickpeterse>
No, $COMPANY_CAMPFIRE
<yorickpeterse>
"I have moped issue (memcache)" <- that was my "eh" for
<yorickpeterse>
(basically)
<someperson>
do you folks do "standups" @ work
<maloik_>
yep
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<yorickpeterse>
yes
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<csaunders>
yes
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<someperson>
what do you think about standups then? how do you use them effectively?
<yorickpeterse>
Keep them short
<yorickpeterse>
<= 10 minutes
<yorickpeterse>
Just tell what you plan to do, keep out the details
<someperson>
yorickpeterse: how many ppl
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<yorickpeterse>
7
<yorickpeterse>
(in our case)
<yorickpeterse>
Standups aren't power meetings, you're just supposed to say what you expect to be working on
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<maloik_>
3 here... longer one on monday, then (sometimes) a couple during the morning on other days
<maloik_>
when we started with that we did one every day, but it's become less frequent
<maloik_>
just say what you did and what you'll do, 10min-ish
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<maloik_>
yea :/
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<ljarvis>
Why did drnic write rim jim :/
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<ddd>
RIP jim. As in Rest In Peace
<yorickpeterse>
ljarvis: typo I think
<yorickpeterse>
I think if any Rubyist makes a lame joke on that page they'd be done for pretty quickly
<ljarvis>
ddd: lol
<ljarvis>
yorickpeterse: ya
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<ddd>
ahhh i see it now
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<gnufied>
really superb guy, very down to earth.
<gnufied>
RIP Jim
<yorickpeterse>
somebody /topic that stuff
<yorickpeterse>
apeiros: ^
<yorickpeterse>
britbieber is a cop? D:
<gnufied>
there, who has given mods to ljarvis!
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ljarvis changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: RIP Jim Weirich || Ruby 2.1.0; 2.0.0-p353; 1.9.3-p484: http://ruby-lang.org || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com
<ljarvis>
hax
<leo__>
hola mundo
<leo__>
hello world
<ljarvis>
lol britbieber
<ljarvis>
srsly
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<leo__>
Iam new in ruby on rails
<ljarvis>
leo__: /join #ruby-on-rails
<leo__>
i would like to find good resources to learn it
<ljarvis>
leo__: this is for general ruby talk, if you want rails they'll be more helpful in there
<leo__>
ok thanks
<ljarvis>
sorry #rubyonrails
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<ljarvis>
#ror
<leo__>
there is no pepole
<leo__>
but thanks
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<ljarvis>
lol
<ljarvis>
leo__: yeah, use #ror instead I gave you the wrong channel
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<leo__>
yes now i found people
<leo__>
thanks
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<apeiros>
lol @ yorickpeterse & britbieber
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<bodie_>
I want to redefine a class method as the same exact method plus one instruction. Is there a simple way to do this?
<ddd>
think of modules as a way to share a bunch of code between other modules and classes, with classes being able to be instantiated, and modules can't. its a ... way.. to get around single inheritance and code share
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<bodie_>
I guess I was only looking at the difference in the list of methods. clearly there could be differences in methods, or different attributes not included in that set
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<bodie_>
so I suppose THAT is what I'm trying to find, is a method that gets a list of ALL the things
<ddd>
it can be a pita to track which module a method was imported from w/o having to walk the different modules
<ljarvis>
bodie_: sounds like you just had an idea for a gem
<bodie_>
:S
<ljarvis>
bodie_: although awesome_print might do this
<bodie_>
I don't want this to be happening to me!
<yorickpeterse>
yeah fuck writing Gems
<bodie_>
I was so determined not to enjoy ruby
<bodie_>
next thing you know I'll be wearing raybans
<ljarvis>
yorickpeterse: agreed
<mikecmpbll>
rofl.
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<yorickpeterse>
The only Gem you'll ever need is ActiveSupport
<ljarvis>
bodie_: it's sunny here, you'll need them
<vrinek502>
I found a bug in delegate in 2.0 and 2.1 and the tests for it fail in 2.1, should I try and make the tests pass first or just create a pull request on the 2.0 branch?
<bodie_>
I hate the sun. I am the night!
<bodie_>
:[
<bodie_>
*withers away*
<yorickpeterse>
the Ruby batman
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<vrinek502>
nevermind the broken tests, I was running them with ruby 1.9 -_-;
<someperson>
how would you write this in a more readable way? a, b= ([["Unassigned"] * 2] + (1..10).map {|i| ["Sales Person #{i}", "Account Manager #{i}"] }).transpose
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<ljarvis>
and xrange(1, 10) is the same as 1...10 in ruby
<dfr|work>
Hi. Any idea why Time.utc for 1.9.3 allows 24 hour value, 60 second value, but not 60 minute value for Time.utc? (I'm looking into MRI vs. jruby discrepancy)
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<apeiros>
dfr|work: maybe because technically such times exist? (leap second)
<apeiros>
Time is a thin wrapper around C time, so the cause might be there
<dfr|work>
apeiros, so that doesn't strike you as weird?
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<dfr|work>
I guess it's a question of UTC format, maybe
<bodie_>
Anyone know if there's a way to get the contents of a method?
<apeiros>
depends on what it does with it. does it return the value or does it overflow?
<bodie_>
i.e. find out what instructions are in it
<dfr|work>
apeiros, from discussion on #jruby channel, there's an opinion that leap second can also be represented as 24:00:00
<dfr|work>
apeiros, and looking at code, that's exactly what it's trying to do. Of course, it's a bit weird that you can specify leap second in, say, February, but meh.
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<apeiros>
dfr|work: ok, so it'd just not discriminate and a leap second on any date
<apeiros>
*and allow a leap second on any date
<apeiros>
well, given that leap seconds are not calculated but decided upon, it makes certain sense
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<ljarvis>
>> i = [*1..9]; Hash[%w(foo bar baz).map {|x| [x,i.shift(3)] }]