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<whitequark> >If you get some shitty bath-tub vodka, and run it through a Brita filter a few times, three or four times, the vodka will taste much better. You're removing the impurities without removing or diluting the alcohol.
<whitequark> I have a hard time believing that man is American
<kyak> russians don't drink vodka for taste, so he is not
<kyak> ..russian
<whitequark> heh
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<nickoe> wpwrak: when I try to add a hole on the frame called pad, I get the error that there is overlapping pads, how to fix this now? http://dpaste.com/1518296/
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<wpwrak> nickoe: hmm, you're trying to make holes in the ring ?
<nickoe> wpwrak: yes, is that not possible?
<wpwrak> nickoe: unfortunately not. all you do gets converted into slightly higher-level primitives of kicad, and you can't have multi-holed pads there
<nickoe> wpwrak: but in kicad's footprint it is possible to make this
<wpwrak> you could make fped generate overlapping pads, though. that may or may not create issues further down the line
<nickoe> wpwrak: what do you mean by; "make fped"?
<wpwrak> there's a directive called "allow" you can use in the .fpd file (not accessible via the gui). if you put "allow holes" after the "unit mm" line, fped will allow you to make these holes
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<wpwrak> note that the rendering gets a bit confused. you see them if you select the "pad" frame but not when you select the root frame, because the drawing order changes and fped doesn't combine them
<nickoe> ok
<nickoe> will try in a moment
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<wpwrak> kicad draws something odd, too. but it layers are good. well, you should get rid of the solder paste. (change the pad type to "bare")
<nickoe> Ah, yes indeed
<wpwrak> note that this makes all the holes mechanical, not plated
<wpwrak> that's an employee of an electricity company trying to fix things while the people who have been without power for maybe days (and are duly annoyed) are standing around, waiting and watching
<larsc> did they bring pitchforks?
<wpwrak> i wouldn't be overly surprised if some did. these look quite calm, but such protests can sometimes get a bit wilder
<wpwrak> no electricity usually also means no water. and of course, ambient temperature is around 34-38 C, so it's no surprise that people heat up
<wpwrak> oh, and around cristmas, it's traditional to go crazy here. you get also a lot of family-related killings and such.
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<DocScrutinizer05> anybody ever heard of netcomponents.com ?
<DocScrutinizer05> LOL @ argentina power grid and companies
<DocScrutinizer05> planned crash landing. Yeah
<wpwrak> social networking for sourcing. wow :) no, never heard of them
<wpwrak> pounce ! :)
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<DocScrutinizer05> ~dict pounce
<DocScrutinizer05> uh, no bot
<DocScrutinizer05> aah, ding to the rescue
<wpwrak> "dict" is the command :)
<DocScrutinizer05> hmm?
<DocScrutinizer05> jr@saturn:~> ding --help
<DocScrutinizer05> Ding: Dictionary Lookup version 1.7
<DocScrutinizer05> Usage: /usr/bin/ding [Optionen] [Suchwort]
<DocScrutinizer05> comes with convenient X11 GUI
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<wpwrak> guis eat space :)
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<kyak> whitequark: sp, what's your next challenge after you've cancelled Foundry?
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<DocScrutinizer05> no
<DocScrutinizer05> GUI is UI
<DocScrutinizer05> no matter if xterm or ding, both is a GUI under X11
<DocScrutinizer05> but with
<DocScrutinizer05> jr@saturn:~/Documents/N900/backup/iron900/bin> cat /usr/local/bin/ding
<DocScrutinizer05> #!/bin/bash
<DocScrutinizer05> /usr/bin/ding -x -R
<DocScrutinizer05> wmctrl -a ding
<DocScrutinizer05> I can have a convenient KDE hotkey (I got win-shift-Y) to lookup an arbitrary highlighted string
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<DocScrutinizer05> actually ding is most used program after IRC client on my PC
<DocScrutinizer05> then Konqueror then Kmail
<viric> what is ding for?
<viric> ring a bell?
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<DocScrutinizer05> DIctionary INGlish ;-)
<viric> ahhh
<DocScrutinizer05> actually I just noticed it has "En <-> De" *and* "dict" *and* "spellcheck". Dunno when it learned that
<DocScrutinizer05> anyway pretty convenient. Waaay better than www.babel.com or whatever
<DocScrutinizer05> highlight a word anywere, press shift-Win-Y and see the translation
<DocScrutinizer05> with KDE3 it was easy to make ding start on first hit of the hotkey and just make it raise window to front on hotkey when it's already started. With KDE4 this broke, like so many other things. Now with that miniscript and thanks to wmctrl I fixed it an hour ago :-D \o/
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