<apelete>
larsc_: just to let you know, just fixed the issue where the kernel was crashing when device was connected to a usb host -> http://paste.debian.net/70453/
<apelete>
next step: test if device is doing ethernet-over-usb as expected (ie, connecting the nanote to the internet via usb and see if it works)
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<nicksydney>
wpwrak: nah still doesn't work....surprised that your was working
<wpwrak>
hmm. nothing at all ? what does dmesg on linux say ?
<wpwrak>
i read about problems with linux. i was thus pleasantly surprised that i could make the update without hitting them.
<wpwrak>
if you board is older than mine, maybe it has an older version of the bootloader as well. that could explain incompatibilities.
<nicksydney>
looks like there is a problem with the cable...here is what i get
<wpwrak>
useful if you lose something during a pub crawl that leaves with huge gaps in your memory :)
<nicksydney>
hahaha...good one :)
<nicksydney>
wpwrak: let me guess that's what you do on weekends
<nicksydney>
hahaha
<wpwrak>
sometimes ;-)
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<whitequark>
you need to enable it explicitly though
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<nicksydney>
whitequark: you mean the tracking ?
<whitequark>
yes
<nicksydney>
think if you use gmail or one of their service that could be the trigger point as most probably they check your IP to get lat and long
<nicksydney>
wpwrak: got my shipment from buy-display.com
<nicksydney>
5inch baby !
<whitequark>
nicksydney: trigger point? it's an opt-in service
<nicksydney>
whitequark: what you mean by opt-in service ?
<whitequark>
nicksydney: it asks me to opt in to enable collecting history
<nicksydney>
whitequark: not familiar with that term sorry
<whitequark>
well, it's disabled by default
<nicksydney>
whitequark: hmmm..where about is the setting ?
<whitequark>
page you linked to, upper right corner, cog icon
<whitequark>
and when I went to "Dashboard": Google Location History is not yet enabled for your Google Account. Please enable Location History and check back in a few days to allow for enough location history to be collected.
<nicksydney>
oh ok i understand .. i mean it is able to track and keep history based on your location through using their services on your devices...that's why it's able to know where you were before...if i looked at mine it shows on the weekend i went somewhere and the only thing i carry was an android device that have got Google apps
<nicksydney>
so i assume that every check ins using their service they are tracking that
<whitequark>
I guess so
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<apelete>
Good morning
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<apelete>
larsc_: hi there
<larsc_>
hi
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<apelete>
larsc_: was thinking about the state of the non-upstream qi kernel patches, since musb glue layer is porgressing fine
<apelete>
if everyhting goes fine, glue layer might finally be ready for release in its current state
<larsc_>
that's awsome
<apelete>
larsc_: but it relies on some non-upstream patches in qi-kernel I think
<apelete>
how should we proceed to get all of this upstream ?
<apelete>
larsc_: finding out which patches are mandatory is a first step I guess, but it's the actual submission process I'm thinking about
<larsc_>
the usual way, send the patch to the maintainer :)
<apelete>
you mean sending the patches on behalf of the authors if needed ?
<apelete>
larsc_: I can take care of it if that's ok, just need to know if it is
<larsc_>
which patches exactly do you mean?
<larsc_>
-> lunch, be back later
<apelete>
larsc_: hmmm, not sure which, there's alot of them in the qi-kernel tree and I remember needing them to test the fix I sent upstream for musb host negatiation protocol
<apelete>
<larsc_> -> lunch, be back later
<apelete>
no problem, we'll discuss this after lunch if you have time
<wpwrak>
well, if it makes you feel better when it says on the box that it's for toner transfer ;)
<wpwrak>
ah wait. is it ...?
<wpwrak>
ah no, that's for the photochemical process again
<wpwrak>
well, you have to choose. if you keep on hopping between the two you'll never get anywhere
<nicksydney>
:)
<nicksydney>
will try again on the weekend with different paper hope have better luck
<wpwrak>
perfect :) if you only vary a small number of parameters, it's easier to debug your process. there are typical categories of problems that can sometimes be solved with process variations.
<wpwrak>
something else you can try is to make more than one test board at once. that way, you can see the effect of variations of the ironing (e.g., how long you keep the iron on the board, how hard you press, and so on)
<wpwrak>
with manual ironing, i had a fair amount of variation. sometimes a board was perfect and the next one all wrong. takes some patience.
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<nicksydney_>
the other idea that i was suggested by my wife was to heat up a teflon and use the heated part on the board as the heat are consistent when
<nicksydney_>
press the teflon heated part to the board :)
<wpwrak>
hmmm. not sure if this wouldn't get a) too hot, and b) you'd have trouble applying enough pressure.
<wpwrak>
but you can try it and see what happens :) maybe cut a number of small boards, maybe the size of atusb, and transfer that design. then you can try a lot of process variations in parallel. the difficulty of atusb is about the same as of anelok.
<apelete>
larsc_: yeah, thanks. took me a while but it's finally ready :)
<apelete>
let's clean up some code and prepare some patches now
<pcercuei>
ah, crap
<pcercuei>
that's why it's so cheap :o
<pcercuei>
apelete: good job!
<larsc_>
yea, otherwise nobody would want to move in with them
<apelete>
larsc_: are you living in Munich ?
<larsc_>
yes
<apelete>
larsc_: didn't know that, I was visiting some friends there a few ago, at the end of november :)
<apelete>
s/a few/a few weeks/
<qi-bot>
apelete meant: "larsc_: didn't know that, I was visiting some friends there a few weeks ago, at the end of november :)"
<wpwrak>
in those US movies about college life, aren't the fraternities the places with all the excessive parties and orgies ?
<larsc_>
apelete: ah, too bad :/
<larsc_>
wpwrak: but you know what a burschenschaft is right?
<apelete>
larsc_: yeah, let's hope we meet at fosdem anyway
<wpwrak>
larsc_: only vaguely. what little i heard of them sounded sufficiently suspicious to me to douse any further curiosity
<apelete>
pcercuei: prices in Munich seem a lot cheaper than in Toulouse to me, except for renting an apartment
<pcercuei>
oh, you're in Toulouse?
<larsc_>
wpwrak: yea, definitly not the crowed you'd want to hang out with
<larsc_>
crowd
<apelete>
pcercuei: yeah, where do you live right now ?
<pcercuei>
near Cherbourg, Normandy
<pcercuei>
fun story, I had the choice to go in Munich or Toulouse
<pcercuei>
I eventually chose Munich
<wpwrak>
toulouse needs to invest more into beer advertizing
<apelete>
pcercuei: fun indeed. what are going there for if I may ask ?
<apelete>
wpwrak: :D
<pcercuei>
for an internship
<apelete>
oh, great
<pcercuei>
wpwrak: advertize which beer? There's no good beer in France
<apelete>
pcercuei: what company did you chose between then ?
<pcercuei>
Analog Devices Inc. in Munich, where larsc_ works
<pcercuei>
versus Free Electrons in Toulouse
<apelete>
both great choices, I know the guys at Free Electrons, a happy bunch
<pcercuei>
yep
<apelete>
Munich is probably a good choice since you're still a student. different culture, opportunity to travel abroad and working on interesting things of course ;)
<pcercuei>
only problem, I don't speek german
<apelete>
yeah well, I know someone who lives there and learned only after coming there
<apelete>
pcercuei: you'll work it out probably, don't worry :)
<pcercuei>
yeah, I don't worry about it
<apelete>
in the end I was very impressed with the city overall, it was my first time in Munich and I enjoyed it. will probably go back when I get the chance :)
<pcercuei>
sure, come and say hi
<pcercuei>
we'll take a beer
<apelete>
pcercuei: let's hope you can come too fosdem with larsc_, that would be really great
<apelete>
s/too/to
<qi-bot>
apelete meant: "pcercuei: let's hope you can come to fosdem with larsc_, that would be really great"
<pcercuei>
yep
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