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<wolfspraul> maybe a quick fpgatools update
<wolfspraul> after a new-year break I slowly went back, working on some snippets here and there without much direction
<wolfspraul> fixing bugs
<wolfspraul> I think I will continue with that for a while, going through more chip features
<wolfspraul> jtag right now, then distributed ram (the one in the luts), then block ram
<wolfspraul> then I need to spend more time on programming the chip, i.e. how to translate a design into bits and routing
<wolfspraul> right now that's too fragile and basically hard-coded for the AND gate and fixed-frequency blinking led
<wolfspraul> oh, dcm and pll also need to be started at some point
<wolfspraul> with the programming, I started to look at writing an llvm backend, so I can program the chip in C via llvm
<wolfspraul> that's about it
<wolfspraul> no major news right now, all slow progress and some homework...
<wpwrak> you should slowly start spreading the word. don't wait 20-30 years until it's perfect :)
<wpwrak> already what you have now is quite a breakthrough. and other people would probably be interested in helping, if they just knew the project exists
<wpwrak> (and i know i keep on repeating myself :)
<wpwrak> also, assuming that you're project currently doesn't financially sustain itself, you may want to bring it into a position where you could receive this sort of help, too. it's not uncommon for companies that need to solve a closely related problem to notice when there's a project out there that already parallels their effort.
<wpwrak> s/you're/your/
<qi-bot> wpwrak meant: "also, assuming that your project currently doesn't financially sustain itself, you may want to bring it into a position where you could receive this sort of help, too. it's not uncommon for companies that need to solve a closely related problem to notice when there's a project out there that already parallels their effort."
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<qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: ubb-la/ubb-la.c (INITIAL_SKIP): describe how the value was obtained (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-blinkenlights/4ceee66
<qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: ubb-la/ubb-la.c (do_buf): move pretty-printing to new function print_samples (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-blinkenlights/8316bc0
<qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: libubb/physmem.c (physmem_xlat): make "v" "const" (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-blinkenlights/c796ab1
<qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: ubb-patgen/ubb-patgen.c (send_buffer): physmem_xlat no longer needs a cast (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-blinkenlights/b0d89b2
<qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: ubb-la/ubb-la.c (do_buf): physmem_xlat doesn't need a cast (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-blinkenlights/13f3417
<qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: libubb/physmem.c (physmem_xlat): don't close the (supposedly) cached fd (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-blinkenlights/96ae331
<qi-bot> [commit] Werner Almesberger: ubb-la/ubb-la.c: option -n N to enter experimental multi-buffer mode (WIP) (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/ben-blinkenlights/37a219b
<wpwrak> but it sounds good that you already see the trickier parts as within your reach
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<Lucius> If you were given 100 million dollars to invest in a project what project will it be?
<Lucius> how would you spend it to uplift your life + make profit.
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<Lucius> hypothetical of course.
<larsc> I would invest them in my well-being ;)
<larsc> hypothetical of course
<Lucius> well, how
<Lucius> it's gotta produce profit and create something
<larsc> pay rent, buy food
<Lucius> software/electronics manufacturing facility?
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<wpwrak> Lucius: i doubt a lot of people who don't regularly deal with large amounts of money have ready-made plans for handling that. let alone reasonable plans :)
<Fallenou> well to make profits I would say invest in something like private equity
<Fallenou> I think it is usually reserved to big bank accounts, there is something like a minimum amount you can invest which would look prohibitive for a simple mortal
<Fallenou> so usually only rich people, companies and banks invest in those
<Fallenou> (banks invest your money :))
<wpwrak> Fallenou: and lose it. luckily,it was yours, not theirs :)
<Fallenou> =)
<wpwrak> but yes, best to invest in conflict. patents, weapons, law firms. you can't go wrong with that.
<Fallenou> how sad is that
<Fallenou> and how true it is
<Fallenou> I would add drug companies
<wpwrak> oh, and let's not forget high-risk banks. "too big to fail" and "too big to jail" both have a nice ring to them, if you're an investor :)
<wpwrak> yes, drugs are good, too. highly competitive, though.
<Fallenou> yes but when you have the right contacts in governments
<Fallenou> you can kind of make your drug mandatory
<whitequark> larsc: $100m is a lot of food
<Fallenou> or make the government invest in your company
<Fallenou> (big vaccination campaings for instance)
<Fallenou> campains*
<wpwrak> whitequark: i suppose he meant to eat that food at very expensive restaurants, in the company of very expensive women :)
<Fallenou> like it was done in France for the influenza :)
<whitequark> Fallenou: flu is the ideal target for vaccination. allows you to do it indefinitely :D
<Fallenou> the government bought a huge amount of vaccin for "A type Influenza"
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<Fallenou> and then they dropped it
<wpwrak> Fallenou: yes, that was a nice one. still, you can only pull this of once every few years.
<Fallenou> yes but this year they said the flue was very dangerous etc
<Fallenou> a big nice hoax
<wpwrak> whitequark: that was for the swine/bird flu. happened at a lot of places.
<whitequark> wpwrak: yeah I'm well aware of that
<wpwrak> (lot of places) in mean the vaccination madness
<wpwrak> s/in/i/
<qi-bot> wpwrak meant: "(lot of places) i mean the vacciation madness"
<Fallenou> I bet we still have a huge amount of those un-sold vaccins ...
<Fallenou> that our tax paid ...
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<wpwrak> Fallenou: naw, they've expired now
<Fallenou> yes
<Fallenou> what a shame
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<wpwrak> Fallenou: i'm sure it was expensive to safely destroy them, though ;-)
<Fallenou> I would prefer they throw the money by the windows, at least 1°) we could get it back 2°) they would not convince people to take a drug which sometime can be dangerous
<Fallenou> wpwrak: arggg
<Fallenou> :-(
<whitequark> btw it actually is sensible to vaccinate high-risk groups against those kinds of flu
<whitequark> but for sure not everyone
<Fallenou> yes indeed
<Fallenou> very old people
<Fallenou> vey young ones
<Fallenou> and sick people
<whitequark> exactly
<Fallenou> but they bought a really insane amount of this vaccin ...
<Fallenou> I think when they actually realized what they did, they tried to sell a part of it to other countries in EU :)
<whitequark> I heard something about correlation between 'animal' flu and WHO budget distributions
<wpwrak> so, i think we have a key: spend a few millions into something stable like real estate in a place without bubbles. spend a bit more into improving your own current situation. spend maybe 1-5 M on interesting new open hardware projects. sink the rest in IP litigation and firearms.
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<Fallenou> firearms to kill those who sue you for IP theft ? :)
<Fallenou> like start a war in Mali to kill ARM?
<Fallenou> (ok this one is bad)
<larsc> whitequark: well, I can eat a lot of food ;)
<wpwrak> whitequark: hmm, i don't remember this working like that. lemme look it up ...
<whitequark> wpwrak: i think that was mostly anecdotal. didn't find any actual data to back it up. OTOH, I didn't really try.
<whitequark> Fallenou: Mali is, err, Central Africa? How is that related to ARM?
<whitequark> (yes I'm aware of the name of their GPU)
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<Fallenou> well that was the joke
<Fallenou> sorry if it was so bad :)
<viric> not bad :)
<Fallenou> French news keeps talking about Mali war
<viric> if it had been about coltan, it should be closer to congo then
<Fallenou> so I had this in head ...
<viric> if it's france, it's their need of uranium
<viric> and to keep safe the landowners in colonies
<whitequark> THINK OF FUKUSHIMA WE ALL NEED TO GO SOLAR
<viric> or ex-colonies, as some papers say.
<viric> whitequark: french media says that nuclear energy gives energy independence (ignoring that they import all uranium)
<viric> but well, if all your dependence is about keeping troups in african colonies... you can call it 'energy independence', I guess
<wpwrak> whitequark: the real scandal was about Tamiflu. it's not a vaccine but something that _may_ help after you've been infected.
<Fallenou> well I bet the energy production earns more money than selling uranium
<Fallenou> the balance must be somewhat positive
<whitequark> viric: http://xkcd.com/1162/
<viric> you can be sure that niger doesn't get much by "selling uranium"
<Fallenou> (when you don't take into account cleaning and shutting down nuclear plants)
<Fallenou> viric: is it really Niger who sells uranium? or Chinese/whatever company owners ?
<viric> I think it's a french company, there.
<whitequark> wpwrak: tamiflu is awesome. one of the scientifically proven remedies. it works by blocking entry of the virii to the cells.
<whitequark> wpwrak: definitely not a vaccine, though.
<Fallenou> viric: all win!
<wpwrak> Fallenou: (mali) that's a good one ;-) someone should create a islamist splinter group called "ARM". "Afrique Musulmane Radicale" perhaps ?
<viric> well, the french, quite relevant among european countries, got its wealth by fucking people here and there.
<Fallenou> wpwrak: ahah sure :)
<viric> And it's hard to give up on addictions.
<Fallenou> viric: well don't worry, every big country try to fuck with other poor/smaller countries
<Fallenou> I would first look at the USA
<Fallenou> before looking at France
<Fallenou> even if indeed we are not very clean :)
<viric> Fallenou: that sounds like said by a french ;)
<Fallenou> you got me ;)
<viric> I'm not sure USA wins
<viric> USA are less discrete.
<Fallenou> well it depends ...
<viric> in any case
<Fallenou> in Africa political/economical manipulation, a lot of things happen behind the scene
<viric> The French started first ;)
<Fallenou> hehe
<viric> wpwrak: ah, touched by the malvines, eh? ;)
<wpwrak> Fallenou: your statement remains valid if you remove "africa" :)
<viric> I'd say there is far more manipulation in France, than africa
<wpwrak> viric: yeah, i thought our dear president would like that book ;-)
<Fallenou> I'm talking about africa because I heard a french musulman guy, named "Tariq Ramadan" giving a talk about north africa / arabe revolutions / middle-east
<Fallenou> saying that usually behind each revolution the USA (and europe) was not very far ...
<viric> Fallenou: if an explanation reached you, it's manipulated.
<Fallenou> well if it's an explanation using actual facts and trying to understand why thing went the way they went
<Fallenou> using historical facts, cross references etc
<viric> hahaha
<Fallenou> it seems likre historian work :)
<viric> historical facts :D
<viric> it's hard to distinguish historical facts from fairy tales
<Fallenou> and the guy said it's proven that USA companies organized workshop about how to protest in peace and raise awareness / lead protests
<Fallenou> make symbols/logo , catch phrases etc
<Fallenou> organize a revolution :)
<viric> Sure.
<Fallenou> and the very groups that started arabe revolutions were identified and took part in this workshops
<viric> The islamic banking was gaining support.
<Fallenou> so in some way USA really helped in those revolutions, because USA wanted those revolutions
<viric> All is about an option between the bad and the worse
<viric> If you live next to natural resources, run. run away!
<Fallenou> or take advantage on them, make profit, try to improve your life and the one of people living around
<wpwrak> Fallenou: let's just consider what happened in libya. like it or not, Gaddafi was a stabilizing factor for the region.
<Fallenou> employ people, invest in development
<Fallenou> wpwrak: well yes, until someday
<Fallenou> wpwrak: that's why no one gave a shit about him, because he was stabilizing the region
<Fallenou> but something changed, and he was no longer desirable by western countries
<Fallenou> (I don't remember what changed)
<Fallenou> then he was the man to kill :)
<wpwrak> viric: naw, start producing weapons. your countrymen - on either side of the conflict - shall need them soon ;-)
<viric> wpwrak: isn't the european production enough?
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<viric> wpwrak: I thought the market was near saturated :)
<wpwrak> viric: you can always set up a few scandals that block the usual routes. but you're right, better to just trade them, not produce.
<viric> now our government has sold contracts to start exploring underground for gas and oil, with a 'fracking' technique. A technique forbidden in many places, because it's prone to contaminate water dwells
<viric> And also sold contracts for oil extraction next to the beach.
<viric> they are selling every "country asset" they can
<viric> "the pressure of the markets"
<wpwrak> viric: well, if you've ever watched "battlestar galactica", you know what "fracking" really means :)
<viric> never watched :)
<Fallenou> ahah
<viric> but if they destroy the water dwells...
<wpwrak> viric: the 2000 series was pretty good. among the best in sci-fi if you don't mind the military/metaphysical slant.
<viric> It'll be very bad
<viric> I'm not sure I like 'scifi'
<wpwrak> bah, there's plenty of water in the mediterranean
<viric> :D
<wpwrak> and it would be really expensive to make it drinkable. but hey, those catalans have money, right ? :)
<viric> Sure, lots of money, if we sell all the coast, the mountains, the workforce, ... to the russians
<wpwrak> having to worry about water should also put those silly secessionist fantasies to rest :)
<viric> wpwrak: secessionist movement has always been leaded by the left ecologist people, until lastest 11th of September
<viric> wpwrak: where the strong right-wing suddenly changed its eternal oposition to secession, and tried of a sudden to lead the secessionist movement.
<viric> now many people are very confused.
<viric> "may we vote the right-wing, and we would get independent sooner, despite wanting lefty politics?"
<viric> of course, the right-wing claims a lot about secession now, but every week they are diluting all more and more.
<viric> I hope some new elections will kick them out hard.
<wpwrak> so you prefer to be sold by "left-wing" politicians ?
<viric> well, here 'left/right' has nuances not really exportable to foreign politics.
<viric> I don't mean 'left' as in soviet union.
<viric> :)
<wpwrak> it seems that the differences on that right-left axis are approaching the planck length these days
<viric> we use the polarity left/right, but that's a completely different axis than in other countries.
<whitequark> wpwrak: so say we all :)
<viric> here, 'left' is more related to removing any central power.
<viric> while in soviet union 'left', it'd be somewhat opposite.
<wpwrak> ah, so that's where the anarchists are hiding :)
<viric> yes
<wpwrak> then your "left" would also favour gun ownership and lower taxes ? :)
<viric> not at all
<wpwrak> (-:C
<viric> every country has its own polarities
<wpwrak> maybe they're not so serious about weakening the state then :)
<viric> often reduce to words left/right, but they could be any other words :)
<viric> I understand your point
<viric> anarchists like in switzerland, right? :)
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<wpwrak> the division is often along the lines of "fairly redistribute what others have" vs. "protect what's mine". so there's an obvious age divide there.
<viric> sure.
<viric> that's how communits grow to vote 'right' :)
<wpwrak> viric: hmm, the swiss aren't very anarchists. yet they have what's probably the form of democracy most compatible with the principles of anarchy.
<viric> wpwrak: gun ownership + low taxes
<viric> part of the success is in not having a very big country.
<wpwrak> (vote right) yeah, all you have to do is channel people's worries. make the non-poor fear the poor and the poor hate the non-poor, and they'll be busy being at each other's throat and you can do whatever you want
<viric> wpwrak: it's also important to have a kind of infrastructure so the poor and non-poor never meet, other than through TV documentaries.
<wpwrak> (small country) that may be a part of it. not sure if this is still true, though.
<wpwrak> (keep 'em separated) you mean like the US prison system ? :)
<viric> that's only one place where they don't meet :)
<wpwrak> well, you have to have plans for the future :)
<wpwrak> besides, apartheid wasn't built in a day either
<viric> exactly.
* whitequark waits to apply godwin's law
<viric> :)
<viric> I'm sorry, but I think we were reaching agreement
<wpwrak> well, there you have an example of a highly effective form of government :) and "guns for all" and "low taxes" folks should be rather happy with that model, too
<wpwrak> actually, i don't know how taxes worked during WWII. but then, in a country where people live on food stamps and worry about getting bombed while in bed (or sent to enjoy the snow-covered plains of beautiful russia), i can't imagine them to have been a major issue
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<viric> yes, people were much easier to make happy back then
<wpwrak> yeah. they were really happy when the secret police came at night ... and took the neighbours
<viric> The spanish prime minister got to be a good representative of the country again, in Peru
<viric> In a speech there, he said "Quiero agradecer al pueblo cubano..."
<wpwrak> so far, so good :)
<viric> Reminding the Minister of defense of the same party, some years ago, when made all the troups of El Salvador shout "Viva Honduras!"
<wpwrak> ough
<viric> Or when the minister of industry said, in a speech at general motors: "I'm proud of being here at Ford ..."
<viric> that's the Spanish style ;)
<wpwrak> so i take it that his polite mention of cubans did not continue with "y al pueblo peruano" ? (or, even better, possibly a long list of peoples, emphasizing unity among latin countries)
<viric> wpwrak: no no. totally forgot of 'peruano'. he really mixed.
<wpwrak> darn. as a politician, he should know that it's pronounced "fnord" !
<wpwrak> busy travel schedule then :)
<wpwrak> well, they take it well ;-)
<viric> yes, quite :D
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