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<qi-bot> [commit] Adam Wang: xlr-socket.fpd: added XLR-PANEL-HORIZ/PCB-SOCKET (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/ec427d9
<qi-bot> [commit] Adam Wang: xlr-socket.fpd: fixed pad 3's solder pad ring size. (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/6276cf2
<qi-bot> [commit] Adam Wang: xlr-plug.fpd: added XLR-PANEL-HORIZ/PCB-PLUG (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/c14108c
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<qi-bot> [commit] Adam Wang: din-5.fpd: added DIN-SOCKET-PCB-5-45 (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/22a5af8
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<qi-bot> [commit] Adam Wang: dcjack.fpd: added DCJACK-${L}x${W} (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/9f07d10
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<kristianpaul> I like that 100usd idea
<kristianpaul> or 110 120 ;)
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<wpwrak> 100 USD idea ?
<xiangfu> I think kristianpaul talking about dvdk's email
<xiangfu> wpwrak, do you have any idea on atusb error: http://pastebin.com/0AApmAE6
<xiangfu> "failed submitting bulk urb, error -2"
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<wpwrak> (100 usd) aah ! USD (100-1) + 1 :)
<xiangfu> :-)
<wpwrak> error -2 is -ENOENT. that's an unusual one
<wpwrak> not sure what exactly it means. sounds a bit like an addressing problem.
<xiangfu> I just compiled kernel with atusb support on my laptop. now try to boot that kernel.
<xiangfu> I modify the all from 'NETIF_F_NO_CSUM' to 'NETIF_F_HW_CSUM'
<xiangfu> since there are no NETIF_F_NO_CSUM anymore. I modify that base on kernel log
<xiangfu> len + hlen + tlen
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<xiangfu> reboot..
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<xiangfu> wpwrak, the kernel I build for x86_64. I got same error on atusb. :(
<wpwrak> xiangfu: yeah, makes sense. the problem looks as if it was at the interface to the USB subsystem
<wpwrak> xiangfu: maybe some URB fields changed their use ?
<xiangfu> I will look into the URB change log.
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<wpwrak> maybe try to track down where the ENOENT comes from. that should shed some light on the issue.
<xiangfu> yes
<qi-bot> [commit] Adam Wang: usb-a-dual-recept-r.fpd: added USB-A-DUAL-RECEPT-RA (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/kicad-libs/2594403
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<kristianpaul> hi dvdk :)
<dvdk> hi
<kristianpaul> 100usd good to me,
<kristianpaul> But i also wanted to comment about development
<kristianpaul> Most mobile devices have an SDK
<kristianpaul> and owrt provide a SDK, but is no the most friendly for UI desing for example
<kristianpaul> What do you think about the lack(?) of a nanonote SDK for developing apps
<dvdk> kristianpaul: owrt is not really a SDK, it's more a build system.
<kristianpaul> I'm not against porting, but something you need develop for making thing more unified
<kristianpaul> dvdk: exactly (owrt)
<dvdk> you'd have to decide on a tooolchain/menu-system to base your sdk on.
<dvdk> maybe qt, maybe sdk, maybe sth else
<kristianpaul> yeah nanomap for example was developed in qt for the nanonote
<Ayla> funny, we were speaking about UI design on #dingoonity like 30min ago
<dvdk> I've always been in favor of a script-language based approach that'd move the SDK part to the nanonote, i.e. user won't ahve to install stuff on his pc
<dvdk> maybe putting a simple SDK onto the nanonote, one that can be used remotely via e.g. tightvncclient might be the sipmlest way?
<kristianpaul> ah good point
<kristianpaul> Ayla: any conclusions? :-)
<kristianpaul> Ayla: dingoo have lots of games, and porting more very day, i heard also you have a online "library" of games as well no?
<dvdk> all of this lives and dies with a well-made documentation/tutorial
<dvdk> the RHIDE IDE feels a little bit like a modern desktop OS despite running on a terminal http://www.rhide.com/. used it extensively some 10 years ago.
<Ayla> kristianpaul: we didn't really conclude anything. I was suggesting to use the EFL instead of Qt/embedded to design UIs
<dvdk> (wrt rhide) also implements proper project management, online help via GNU info-files etc.
<Ayla> kristianpaul: and yes, we have an online library: http://dl.openhandhelds.org/cgi-bin/dingoo.cgi
<Ayla> but not everything is there
<kristianpaul> basically porting more apps and let gmenu2x do the glue is the esiest simple way than develop own app..
<dvdk> kristianpaul: agree, porting is much more productive than developing from scratch
<Ayla> certainly
<Ayla> but gmenu2x is a piece of crap
* dvdk started coding a replacement from scratch, but it's not even 50% done.
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<dvdk> also that one will be even more crappy :)
<Ayla> more info please :p
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<dvdk> maybe 10% complete
<dvdk> ugly but low footprint, designed for fast startup
<Ayla> mmhhh allegro
<dvdk> anything to complain about allegro? we have a very stable, efficient port running on nanonote
<Ayla> yeah. Never got it to work on the dingoo
<dvdk> we even have (partial) python bindings
<dvdk> and alex4, and aseprite painting program, and and and... :)
<Ayla> a SDL backend for allegro would be nice :)
<dvdk> Ayla: just strip it down to only use fbdev driver, why bother with SDL? also look at our patches. I think i tweaked video mode selection a little.
<dvdk> Ayla: allegro has a lot of backends, maybe SDL is among it?
<dvdk> we even have sw-synthesized midi driver working in allegro.
<dvdk> call me an allegro fan :)
<kristianpaul> :)
<Ayla> SDL 1.* is flawed
<Ayla> but SDL 2.0 has a much better design
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<dvdk> Ayla: for me sdl always felt like having too many layers, too much "API" to be fun to program. This is were allegre excells.
<dvdk> s/allegre/allegro/
<qi-bot> dvdk meant: "Ayla: for me sdl always felt like having too many layers, too much "API" to be fun to program. This is were allegro excells."
<kristianpaul> dvdk: had you coded games for allegro before?
<wpwrak> huh ? SDL ? that's about as bare metal as it gets ...
<kristianpaul> wpwrak: did you find the fonts API?
<kristianpaul> :-)
<dvdk> (mostly developed during about 1998-2000)
<dvdk> wpwrak: wrt api: allegro has stuff like key[KEY_SPACE] to check for (possibly concurrent) keypresses. or you write stuff like screen->w to get screen size. use of global vars in APIs has somewhat declined recently :)
<wpwrak> dvdk: hmm, you can get keys and screen size in SDL, too. it's not particularly difficult.
<wpwrak> kristianpaul: yeah, picking the right thing to use on top of SDL is kinda tricky
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