<zrafa> kristianpaul: finally, after serveral days without internet at home I was able to read the logs for the tuxbrain[ answer
<zrafa> so yes.. I read the log if I asked something :)
<zrafa> kristianpaul: about sie vs milkymist.. I see that you love milkymist a lot and you have named it several times like better than sie. But I just want to know which is really a good toy for uni. And sie is for professor okey, better than nn (for the fpga and free gpios, without lcd, etc). And I like the idea to help. But I do not see milkymist like better than sie for the uni. It does not run Linux and it is expensive. The idea at uni is for linux embedded sy
<zrafa> ?
<zrafa> courseS
<xiangfu> zrafa: milkymist can run Linux :)
<zrafa> xiangfu: great! I did not know. which distribution is okey for it? .. is linux vanilla okey then?
<zrafa> xiangfu: so it is just expensier now that linux is official on milkymist
<xiangfu> zrafa: not linux vanilla.
<zrafa> xiangfu: some distribution linux kernel?
<xiangfu> zrafa: I nenver try linux on m1. when I have time. will try run linux on m1.
<xiangfu> zrafa: fyi: git://github.com/psycho-nico/milkymist-openwrt.git
<zrafa> xiangfu: nice.. thanks for the links!.. I am saving them.. no good internet these days
<panda|x201> xiangfu, ping!
<panda|x201> wolfspraul, ping
<xiangfu> panda|x201: pong
<whitequa1k> xiangfu: have you tried jzboot with ben?
<xiangfu> whitequa1k: not yet
<whitequark> xiangfu: btw, what's your timezone?
<panda|x201> whitequark, his timezone is UTC+8
<Jay7> have another HW idea
<Jay7> pci-e board which looks like ethernet card from computer side
<Jay7> but this is real computer itself :)
<Jay7> with ethernet and some usb on rear side
<Jay7> i.e. router-on-an-pci-e-card :)
<rjeffries> this is a clever and cheap ($6 uSD) little radio 2.4 Ghz subsystem
<kyak> Jay7: what is the use case? :)
<Jay7> kyak: router :)
<kyak> for router, you buy a router. A big noisy PC with a router inside is not a router :)
<Jay7> I have always running bit noisy PC and always running router :)
<kyak> btw, how is it different from pci-e ethernet card?
<Jay7> well, not very noisy but
<Jay7> kyak: much more cables around :)
<kyak> yo ustill have usb on the rear side
<kyak> anyway, it's a strange idea, but somehow appealing.. A single board PC liviing inside the other PC :)
<Jay7> at other side.. I need just pass ethernet card to virtual machine which will act as router..
<Jay7> kyak: idea isn't new. there was sun-pci :)
<Jay7> x86 computer on pci board for sun HW
<kyak> ha! they can't live without x86, can they? :)
<Jay7> someone even have installed windows xp on that board :)
<kyak> that were dark times, when computers were not capable of running virtual machines without significant loss of performance :)
<Jay7> yeah :)
<Jay7> is looking at Aewan
<Jay7> seems it should be easy to create recipe
<kyak> looking at openwrt port, very easy - doesn't even need patches :)
<Jay7> trying :)
<Jay7> is looking for something similar from deps side to just copy recipe from
<kyak> is it really not ported yet?
<kyak> (i'm asking same question about w3m port - which is not in OE)
<Jay7> I haven't find OE recipe for aewan
<Jay7> well, trying to build :)
<Jay7> I'll push it to OE on success
<Jay7> so jlime people may create package for Jane :)
<whitequark> Jay7: there are some FPGAs, on the high-end side, which are done exactly that way
<whitequark> some Virtex's IIRC
<kyak> ah, crafty plans to entice Jane to Jlime!
<whitequark> you can make a router inside easily. just add a MIPS IP core and some Gigabit Ethernet ones :)
<Jay7> kyak: hehe ;)
<Jay7> whitequark: 'just add' it's not about me ;)
<Jay7> is not HW guy at all :)
<Jay7> I can solder cable or something simple by ready scheme but can't develop HW :)
<Jay7> B_Lizzard: I have recipe for aewan
<B_Lizzard> uh huh
<Jay7> well.. it's even built ok for armv7
<Jay7> someone should test it on target though
<Jay7> can you build it and place to feed for Jane? :)
<B_Lizzard> Sute
<B_Lizzard> usahfpodshfadsofidsf
<B_Lizzard> Sure
<B_Lizzard> That will be 10$
<Jay7> send your invoice to Jane ;)
<B_Lizzard> OK D:
<B_Lizzard> what aewan version?
<B_Lizzard> aewan-????.bb
<Jay7> mom
<Jay7> aewan_1.0.01.bb
<xiangfu> found one link: http://www.debwrt.net/
<xiangfu> not look into detail. just one URL.
<whitequark> can anyone check jzboot with ben?
<kyak> whitequark: is there a manual/config for that?
<whitequark> kyak: just build xburst-tools, plug ben in usb-boot mode and launch ./jzboot -i 0
<whitequark> ah yes, also -d4
<whitequark> it will spit out some debug info then
<kyak> ah, so it's merged into xburst-tools, right?
<kyak> just -i 0? how would i supply images names? Addresses?
<whitequark> kyak: it'll go to interactive shell mode then
<whitequark> jzboot has entirely different concept than xbboot/uxbboot
<whitequark> it's much closer to uboot
<whitequark> the flashing itself is done via scripts, or you may provide instructions on commandline (think of 'bash -c')
<kyak> 5@D5MK HML DK;HB?1 @IF 5I 04DK@, )
<kyak> damn.
<kyak> that's what i'm asking, how to flash?
<kyak> is there some help/manual/whatsoever?
<kyak> so i go to interactive mode, then what? :)
<whitequark> try typing 'help' :)
<whitequark> also you may take a look at subdirs config/ and script/
<kyak> ok, i'll have a look when i'm back home
<whitequark> e.g. my board is flashed by running config/boot.cfg and then script/flash_xz0032_linux.scr
<whitequark> the important part now is (for me) to get the debug output for ben
<whitequark> it's unlikely, while possible, that everything will work as-is
<whitequark> and sadly I don't have ben to test
<kyak> ok, it will burn me ben :)
<whitequark> yeah, that's my evil plan
<kyak> i have a backup ben coming in anyway :)
<kyak> i hope it's coming..
<whitequark> then you have a chance to observe two different explosions
<whitequark> maybe the second one will have green flame or such
<kyak> i only wish it wouldn't explode at customs house :)
<whitequark> actually that may be very good. $100 per customs house isn't a lot if we won't see them in future
<kyak> ha-ha, nicely said
<kyak> (it's not logged this way ;)
<kyak> whitequark: xburst-tools/jzboot is just an empty directory
<kyak> are you sure it's already merged into xburst-tools?
<xiangfu> kyak: it's a 'submodules' in git. try 'cd jzboot && git pull' it's just like a independence git , (which is submodules of xburst-tools git)
<xiangfu> kyak: learn from whitequark  :)
<kyak> ah!
<kyak> cool :)
<kyak> nope
<kyak> still nothing
<kyak> i have a feelign i have to add a remote
<xiangfu> git modules update
<xiangfu> git submodules update
<kyak> ok
<kyak> still nothing :)
<xiangfu_> ping
<xiangfu_> kyak: git submodule init && git submodule update
<xiangfu_> kyak: after that. you can "cd jzboot && git checkout master" then it's just like a normal git
<kyak> ok
<kyak> it is working now
<kyak> should i build from the top level dir or from within jzboot?
<xiangfu_> top level.
<xiangfu_> whitequark: have finished connect jzboot to xburst-tools make system.
<kyak> xiangfu_: do i need to do something special?
<kyak> it won't build jzboot
<kyak> should i re-configure?
<xiangfu_> kyak: just "./autogen.sh && configure...."
<xiangfu_> kyak: ./autogen.sh  && ./configure  --disable-firmware --with-readline && make
<xiangfu_> then you can got the 'jzboot' under 'jzboot/src/'
<kyak> yeah, already on it
<kyak> it didn't detect my libusb1.0-devel
<kyak> complains for missing libusb.h
<xiangfu_> hmm...
<xiangfu_> do you got those:
<xiangfu_> checking for main in -lusb... yes
<xiangfu_> checking for main in -lusb-1.0... yes
<xiangfu_> checking for main in -lreadline... yes
<xiangfu_> the libusb. have 0.1 version adn 1.0 verison. usbboot and xbboot --> 0.1 , jzboot --> 1.0
<xiangfu_> it's under "ls /usr/include/libusb-1.0/libusb.h" in my system
<xiangfu_> kyak: I have to sleep. will check the irc log. :)  good night.
<kyak> checking for main in -lusb... yes
<kyak> checking for main in -lusb-1.0... yes
<kyak> checking for main in -lreadline... yes
<kyak> i have both libusb1.0-devel and libusb-compat0.1-devel
<whitequark> kyak: grhm. I was sleeping. Does it build for you now?
<whitequark> awesome
<GNUtoo> hi kristianpaul
<tuxbrain> wpwrak: victor has pick up the atben and atusb to make cool hi res pics on the prototypes , he has better equipment and skills to do so, I will have access to this Osciloscope http://www.syscompdesign.com/CGR101.html
<tuxbrain> is enough
<tuxbrain> ?
<roh> tuxbrain: for what?
<tuxbrain> roh, to debug the reset USB problem on atusb
<roh> ah
<roh> thats only on flashing, right?
<tuxbrain> one unit gives problems on connect to pc, entering on an endles connect disconnect loop or something... don't know, I'm still pending on reflashing it with lastest firmware and see if it behaves the same way, but in case that yes, werner askme to plug it to an osciloscope to see what happens, and I ask it the specifications of this one http://www.syscompdesign.com/CGR101.html are enough to that task or not. roh the real thing is I have no Idea on whe
<tuxbrain> re to connect what and what to lock at but well I hope in the guiadance of master, I will be their hands and his eyes, he will have to guide them.
<roh> its a 20mhz dso
<roh> could be fast enough
<roh> eh.. nah.., its 2mhz
<roh> 20msamples
<roh> could be. dunno.
<roh> not sure
<wpwrak> tuxbrain: (scope) yeah, ought to do .. barely :)
<wpwrak> wow .. USD 189 ! that's awfully expensive
<wpwrak> a rigol DS1052E would have a "street" price of USD 399. and that's a real scope, going up to 50 MHz (1 GSa/s), and with up to 1 MS memory.
<wpwrak> tuxbrain: so yes, if you have one lying around, why not. but if you're thinking of buying it, better get something decent
<tuxbrain> yes I already have it (well victor have it)
<wpwrak> alright. it'll be sufficient for this task. it's even 25% better than the absolute theoretical minimum that can show the clock ;-)
<wpwrak> wonder if the designers of that 2 MHz scope confused 2011 with 1911, and thought they're a few years ahead of the curve ;-)
<wpwrak> tuxbrain: the rigols are good devices. not perfect but good value.
<wpwrak> tuxbrain: (i have one .. well, the DS1102CD)
<methril_> tuxbrain, i use the dual channel model everyday
<methril_> has a bad gtrigger, but it allows to woakas
<methril_> s/ woakas /work
<wpwrak> methril_: the rigol or the syscomp ?
<methril_> the rigol, at work
<wpwrak> methril_: good :) yeah, the trigger is a bit weak. sometimes, you don't even see what it triggered on. so it takes some getting used to.
<methril_> wpwrak, yes, it's my daily pain ;)
<methril_> we don't have any debugger, because i motivated to use OpenSource tools, so we only have PINs & the USART (i make it working)
<wpwrak> methril_: very good ! :-)
<tuxbrain> I'm online?
<tuxbrain> yes it seems so