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<kieppie> hi
<kieppie> does the CB2 have the hardware to be able to do AES? I want to run truecrypt
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<n3glv> anyone have time for a few noob questions?
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<n3glv> what's the OS options for a truck?
<rm> most common GNU/Linux distros http://linux-sunxi.org/Bootable_OS_images
<n3glv> ah thanks rm
<n3glv> rasbian too specific?
<n3glv> I see the xbmc variant, that looks cool
<rm> it just runs normal Debian (only with a different bootloader and kernel)
<n3glv> is the image sent to the flash onboard? or does it boot and run in sd like a pi ?
<rm> you can boot from SD, or you can install to onboard flash
<n3glv> k
<n3glv> so I guess, testing etc you use the sd
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<n3glv> I just bought the truck from ebay
<n3glv> should maybe have spent a tad more and got the black cube thing?
<n3glv> or anyone know when the hummingboard will ship?
<rm> what cube
<rm> the CT is okay
<JohnDoe_71Rus> SD card priority. If card have boot data, CT will boot from SD
<n3glv> JohnDoe_71Rus: like a droid phone, more or less.. k
<JohnDoe_71Rus> so you can leave nand a and test card system
<n3glv> the quad core 2" cube, i4 something
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<n3glv> cubist?
<n3glv> that's the badge
<n3glv> r
<n3glv> grrr
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<n3glv> high chance it's going to be running xbmc..
<n3glv> from the NAS share
<n3glv> might have to dig out the weemote eh?
<n3glv> wimote.. <sp>
<n3glv> anyway, will idle here for a bit, got the major questions answered, thanks rm and JohnDoe_71Rus
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<JohnDoe_71Rus> shineworld: hi
<shineworld> morning JohnDoe_71Rus
<JohnDoe_71Rus> n3glv: see http://www.cubieforums.com/ Pre-Made Images
<n3glv> ymx
<n3glv> tnx even
<n3glv> going to sleep.
<JohnDoe_71Rus> shineworld: Where is your manual?
<shineworld> This is my boot log from ttl http://paste.debian.net/101903/
<shineworld> Boot in only 27 sec
<shineworld> This is logcat session http://paste.debian.net/101904/
<JohnDoe_71Rus> great. will try
<shineworld> I'm moving all also to latest sources with kernel 3.4
<shineworld> but there some issue to solve yet in android sources
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<JohnDoe_71Rus> shineworld: What you think about http://docs.cubieboard.org/tutorials/cb2/development/how_to_use_android_and_lubuntu_dual_os ? This only with they's latest Android 4.2_v1.06.
<JohnDoe_71Rus> and may be with other releases after Android 4.2_v1.06
<shineworld> Actually I'm using dualboot without issues:
<shineworld> - NAND run Cubian
<shineworld> - SD run 4.2.2
<shineworld> I've removed insmod nank.ko from init.rc (so android don't fuck and view nand device)
<JohnDoe_71Rus> but this nand android - SD linux
<shineworld> I've modified etc/vold.fstab so don't map in nand devices
<JohnDoe_71Rus> sometimes useful to have access to the nand memory
<shineworld> I flashed Cubian (or any other linux image) in NAND and I wrote my script to get Android working on SD :)
<shineworld> ok can be done ... just you have to:
<shineworld> modify monkey.cpp so don't manage uventd for /dev/block/nandk (previous mapped UDISK)
<shineworld> change vold.fstab configuration so don't try to mount any nand device
<shineworld> leave nand.ko in init.rc so you can mount the nand without problems (manually from adb shell)
<shineworld> or you can always load nand.ko con insmod in anymoment
<shineworld> JohnDoe_71Rus, the bad thing with cubieboard is ALMOST inexisten support and chaos in their sources....
<shineworld> they make image 1.07 but don't relate what sources made it
<shineworld> sometime they put/change new zip in dl.cubieboard..... and you have to hope that is latest version
<shineworld> without any reference on what SDK version is
<shineworld> just a name which every time is different
<JohnDoe_71Rus> shineworld: yep
<shineworld> This is not a the right way to work
<shineworld> so I spent my time to diff AOSP with their sources to understand what's happen
<shineworld> ah forgot that there is also a nand enabling in script.bin
<shineworld> however to modify nand device from android isn't so usefull
<shineworld> so I've removed any access in my SD's
<shineworld> and reduced the boot-time....
<shineworld> my best boot was in 14s with some tips
<shineworld> I hope to reduce it yet
<shineworld> Actually in my test SD is more fast than NAND BUT if I boot from NAND is more fast than SD ... sigh
<shineworld> This is over my knowledges
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<Bushmills> data transfer rate is only one metric, another is number of i/o per interval. sd cards are notoriously bad with that, given that they were targetted occasionally writing single bigger files, like pictures in a camera.
<Bushmills> can't say how NAND performs with this, but that's something worth to measure when comparing the two
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<Bushmills> running a random read test with small block sizes may show.
<Bushmills> or it may not. filling both NAND and SD card with small files, maybe hashed into directories, and read the same (pseudo random) sequence of files on both should.
<shineworld> I could try that... In my test I've just used dd to store fixed amount of data in SD / NAND .... http://shineworld.boxhost.me/doku/doku.php?id=cubieboard:nandvssdperformances
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<shineworld> damn... they removed sources
<shineworld> without a good labeling system is hard to know what they are doing
<shineworld> A20-android4.2-sourcecode.zip is more old than CubieBoard2_SDK_20140508.tar.gz ?
<shineworld> CubieBoard2_SDK_20140508.tar.gz is 1.06 or 1.07 ?
<JohnDoe_71Rus> don't know
<shineworld> Yesterday I've build CubieBoard2_SDK_20140508.tar.gz and use 3.4 instead of 3.3
<shineworld> worked fine but some issue with NAND to remove
<shineworld> it build without problems
<shineworld> just to rename Cubieboard2_config in Cubieboard2_defconfig
<shineworld> A20-android4.2-sourcecode.zip seem to be a "new entry" of yesterday of two days ago
<shineworld> so I can figure out that is latest code
<shineworld> I've begun to keep a "some order" in source....
<shineworld> unfortunately my DSL don't permit me to push nothing.... ( below 35Kbps in upload)
<shineworld> 32E / month for so fu....g DSL system
<shineworld> That's Italy
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<shineworld> ha ha ha I'm downloading latest at 9358 B/s (in mean)......
<shineworld> Just some week to accomplish
<Bushmills> sometimes that's better done asynchronously. download when new available, before actually needed, use local storage as cache
<Bushmills> as look-ahead buffer :)
<shineworld> someone know if there is a public ftp/username-pass to access at dhttp://dl.cubieboard.org/ instead to use HTTP interface ?
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<shineworld> I can connect to dl.cubieboard.org how ftp client but with anonymous I can't get directories
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<shineworld> JohnDoe_71Rus, you can download this : https://www.dropbox.com/s/txzbrysdqvhn254/cubietools-for-michael.tar.gz
<shineworld> it is a system to create an SD with Android 4.2.2 (prebuild binaries) for a friend which uses a 1024x600 LVDS display
<JohnDoe_71Rus> shineworld: from home. now i am at work
<shineworld> you will have only to get your script.bin and recover your SystemServer.jar from /system/framework
<shineworld> ah ok
<JohnDoe_71Rus> thanks
<shineworld> pratically instead to start from sources there is inner the /system /root /recovery /uboot /kernel path with binaries
<shineworld> so cubietool create your sd using these directories
<shineworld> the only fix you have to do is recover standard script.bin (which is made for HDMI) and restore standard SystemServer.jar (because I've modified to avoid display re-initialization done by SurfaceFlinger.cpp just after boot)
<shineworld> *and of android boot
<JohnDoe_71Rus> think you patch SystemServer.jar will work with hdmi-dvi converters
<shineworld> Uhm... I will update a version "PURE" so anyone can mote it to SD without patch nothing
<shineworld> nah... SystemServer just check for HDMI mode, etc. and write a file in /data/xxxxx (I don't remember name). SurfaceFlinger read this file (if exist) and then restore display settings
<shineworld> is a chain... I've just commented the SystemServer.java which create the file so SurfaceFlinger does nothing
<JohnDoe_71Rus> at all android i get good splash with monkey but then android boot, get pink screen with wrong resolution
<shineworld> however if you be patient I can publish a full working tool to get SD with 1.05 without personal changes
<shineworld> this is because:
<shineworld> the cubieboard.org android img uses a special u-boot in which (in spl) initialize the display driver and load the "monkey" image
<shineworld> then when kernel start it read your HDMI info from monitor (if available) or in your command line and try to configure your actual display
<JohnDoe_71Rus> this only with hdmi-dvi converters. test 2 converters, 3 hdmi cables and 3 monitors
<shineworld> could be there is some bugs...
<shineworld> the pink'ish is during ANDROID boot animation or after ?
<shineworld> PS: in your system there is three points in which display is initialized:
<shineworld> 1 - in uboot (spl module) for first boot logo
<shineworld> 2 - in kernel boot
<shineworld> 3 - ant end of android boot phase (in SurfaceFlinger.cpp module)
<rooted-arm> does cubieboard support java sdk ?
<rooted-arm> java development in general
<shineworld> JohnDoe_71Rus, I guess just joking with systemserver you can fix your issue (or with my SD you can modify settings in uEnv.txt)
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<shineworld> I've got same problem with my office monitor
<JohnDoe_71Rus> shineworld: but, if i connect only hdmi it fine
<shineworld> with my home monitor (DVI) and my TV (sony bravia 42W652) all works fine
<shineworld> My monitors are all DVI
<shineworld> so I'm using a DVI -> HDMI cable converter
<JohnDoe_71Rus> i test 2 converters
<shineworld> I don't think is a problem of converter
<shineworld> if it work at first time it works also after
<shineworld> Could be a problem of kernel when try to detect HDMI vs CBS vs other settings
<JohnDoe_71Rus> I also do not think so. Linux works correctly.
<shineworld> in SystemServer.java there is a moment in which try to get display settings
<shineworld> All happen in SystemServer.java
<shineworld> In a very little piece of code full of oddities (by my view point)
<shineworld> a sec for more info
<shineworld> During boot with logcat you can get a lot of useful messages "adb logcat | grep SystemServer"
<shineworld> like what display type and mode the system recognized
<shineworld> could be the kernel don't recognize corret settings from your monitor
<shineworld> there is a way also to get all running display settings using sysfs
<shineworld> directly in TTL console (or in adb shell dmesg if you are using adb)
<shineworld> I don't remeber full path .... I've wrote it in a paper at home
<shineworld> howver the latest display configuration is wrote by SystemServer.java in /data/displaysetmode file how output type (LDVS,VGA, etc) and mode (resolution model)
<shineworld> for HDMI should have 4 and 2
<shineworld> by default
<shineworld> .... I need to retry in office with bad monitor but unfortunately 4.2.2 require a 64 bit system to be build (here only very old 32 bit machine)
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<buZz> 11:57:59 < rooted-arm> does cubieboard support java sdk ?
<buZz> 11:58:54 < rooted-arm> java development in general
<buZz> yes, sure
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<llaine> does anybody ever try to install arch on a cubieboard2 ?
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<buZz> llaine: someone, sure
<llaine> ty, i already trying to follow the instructions with this tutorial
<llaine> but i can't make a proper sdcard
<llaine> every time,
<llaine> the cubieboard 2 does not boot and now i have a big GREEN loading bar while the green light is blinking when i try to boot from the nand
<rm> that instruction is for cubieboard 1
<rm> missed that you're using CB2
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<llaine> no problem, is this tutorial
<llaine> still working?
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<wiak> llaine, i have a guide on my blog at nwgat.net
<wiak> ^^
<llaine> thank you, i'm going to try it !
<wiak> you will need a pc running linux os to use the script :p fyi
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<llaine> the direction of the two partition matters?
<Bushmills> partition chirality?
<wiak> yes it matters
<wiak> or it wont boot i have noticed
<wiak> ^^
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<llaine> i mean in gparted i first created the Fat16
<llaine> does i need to create inevitably the ext4 first?
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<n3glv> the pi stuff I have done used dd to make the SD and it wrote format and partitions in one fell swoop
<n3glv> ie dd if=/the/image.iso of=/path/to/sd/card and maybe bs= <some block size>
<n3glv> note my gateway laptop (acer oem) internal sd slot can't do one to save it's life
<n3glv> had to use a $5 external usb device from best buy
<llaine> okay!
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<wiak> make a ext4 partition with 16mb space after, and use that for the fat16 partition llaine
<wiak> ;)
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* rooted-arm trying ubuntu-arm , brb
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<n3glv> yo
<n3glv> or oy
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<n3glv_McWifi> konichi-wa
<n3glv_McWifi> namaste, etc
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<n3glv_McWifi> a cubietruck is 1ghz cpu? what is this 480mhz figure??
<Bushmills> sounds like gpu clock
<Bushmills> well, there are several components on a cubieboard. the "cubietruck" clock you mention may refer to its cpu clock
<n3glv_McWifi> memory speed
<n3glv_McWifi> ddr3 2gb @ 480mhz
<Bushmills> or that
<n3glv_McWifi> how much effect on say x-org feel?
<Bushmills> about as much as a string long is
<n3glv_McWifi> or can someone comment on use as xbmc device??
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<paulo_> sorry if dummy question, but I would like to know if I can connect directly my Cubieboard2 to PC using LAN cable without to connect them to the router (is far now)... So CUBIE -> LAN CABLE -> PC LAN Port
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<rm> paulo_, should be able to
<rm> not sure if the CB NIC is Auto-MDIX capable (90% likely it is), but your PC should be (99%)
<rm> and that's required only on one end
<Kamilion> all gigabit NICs should be Auto-MDIX
<Kamilion> I'm pretty sure it's required in the specification at this point.
<rm> CB2 is not gigabit though?
<paulo_> this shound good... I need to use a reversing cable ?
<Kamilion> PC-side
<paulo_> CB2 isn't gibabyte
<rm> not all PCs are gigabit :)
<Kamilion> Any PC with a gigabit port will do auto crossover.
<paulo_> I will try ;)
<Kamilion> part of the gigabit standard.
<Kamilion> "Subsequently, Dove promoted auto MDI-X within the 1000BASE-T standard[5] and also developed patented algorithms for "forced mode auto MDI-X" which allow a link to be automatically established even if the port does not auto-negotiate."
<paulo_> Unfortunately I don't reach my routher with WIFI dongle so I'm trying to connect Cubieboard directly to PC Lan PORT
<Kamilion> if PC lan port is gigabit, it will work
<Kamilion> if it's 100mbit, it will *probably* work.
<Kamilion> It works for my cubieboard2
<Kamilion> and the cubietruck is the same PHY connected to the A20, to my knowledge
<paulo_> 1 x RTL8111D chip (10/100/1000 Mbit)
<paulo_> my board is a Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD3
<Kamilion> mine is GA-890GPA-UD3H
<Kamilion> 1 x Realtek 8111D chip (10/100/1000 Mbit)
<Kamilion> absolutely supports auto-crossover.
<Kamilion> wiak: ooh, thanks for the blog link earlier.
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<paulo_> I've connected to my MAC OS but sorry what is next step ?
<paulo_> how to view it in my PC ?
<paulo_> I've disabled DHCP in Android settings and placed a IP, Mask address (192.168.0.90 and 255.255.255.0)
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<n3glv> you trying to use ethernet port on mac as router, and mac on wifi?
<n3glv> paulo_:
<n3glv> on most OS it's called internet connection share
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<n3glv> it's under system preferences, sharing, internet sharing
<n3glv> oops
<n3glv> guess he found it
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<wiak> Kamilion, wait what you too? :P
<Kamilion> wiak: nah, found some stuff that looked interesting
<Kamilion> *grumble* why did viscosity have to be payware?!
<wiak> /whois wiak
<wiak> its not that expensive
<Kamilion> I'm not paying $10 for a wrapper around a FOSS project
<Kamilion> i don't care how pretty they made it
<Kamilion> the node wrapper around rtorr is nice lookin' though, and I'll probably toy with that a bit on my cubie
<wiak> hehe, on that one i did the docs tralllaa
<wiak> if the install guide is f*cked you can blame me
<wiak> =D
<Kamilion> noted... XD
<wiak> viscosity is not only a wrapper, it has some useful features and uses its own virtual ethernet device etc
<wiak> did you find something moar on the blog?
<wiak> viscosity is doing a vpn server too, lets hope it just as cheap compared to openvpn as server
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