<pie_>
azonenberg, im remembering this quite late but i was also looking for stuff on intermediate languges at some point and wasnt really able t find much :(
<pie_>
"You can get tiny PIC/AVR microcontrollers in SOT23 packages, which are about 3mm square and the smallest thing you might realistically hand-assemble." wtf how does that even work
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<whitequark>
what's wrong
<sn00n>
hm, simply solder it?
<balrog>
pie_: paste, place, hot air?
<pie_>
no i mean how do they fit any pins??
<whitequark>
rqou: "certification up to emvco"
<pie_>
or even a useful amount of pins
<whitequark>
"nfc passive mode"
<whitequark>
"mifare compatible"
<whitequark>
i have like two obvious consumer products in mind and one sliiightly less consumer, which is what i think you're decapping
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<sn00n>
have high end scopes ASIC?
<sn00n>
not that i have the money but ...
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<eduardo_>
azonenberg: are you present?
<awygle>
"the smallest thing you might realistically hand assemble" ye of little imagination
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<azonenberg>
eduardo_: back
* azonenberg
has hand assembled 0.35mm pitch WLCSP chips that were 2x2 balls and about 0.6mm on a side
<azonenberg>
sn00n: Most high end scopes use asics
<azonenberg>
i forget the specifics, one vendor uses entirely cots i think for low to midrange?
<azonenberg>
pretty sure tek is all asic
<eduardo_>
azonenberg: how about your registering with sam.gov
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<grantsmith>
ZipCPU, looks like your parenthesis are in the wrong place
* grantsmith
squints
<grantsmith>
or maybe not...
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<ZipCPU>
Yeah, I'm still stuck. It seems to make no sense.
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<awygle>
Hey azonenberg you're outside a lot, can you recommend a very thin/light waterproof tarp?
<azonenberg>
awygle: No
<azonenberg>
I currently use the heavy blue plastic ones and am actually in the market for an upgrade myself
<azonenberg>
The setup i see a lot of the guys in my unit using is a pair of different materials
<azonenberg>
there's one that's thick and shiny mylar on one side and orange on the other that makes a good ground sheet and reflects some heat back up at you
<azonenberg>
then for the top, thin nylon
<azonenberg>
like tent rain-fly material
<azonenberg>
The one problem with that stuff is water will wick through it if you touch it
<azonenberg>
So you have to provide an air gap and not roll into it during the night
<awygle>
Hm OK. I just need to cover my bike from the rain, tent fly material might be OK for that...
<awygle>
I just don't want to lug my home depot tarp around everywhere I go lol
<eduardo_>
azonenberg: are you still interested in joining the darpa call?
<sn00n>
it's a tarp
<pie___>
eduardo_, you guys callin darpa
<sn00n>
555-DARPA
<sn00n>
"there's a collect call from DARPA on line 3"
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<rqou>
ah, the nice smell of smoke with a hint of human souls :P
<rqou>
and yes, i really haven't been outside much until now
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