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<wifi> 4.2 aint that good xD
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<samosa> Interesting poll, the top 4 most voted, have been android issues for how long now? Must be atleast 4 years.
<samosa> So .. I don't really think they should be put under 4.2 issues but rather android issues in general.
<samosa> Like, for example, auto-brightness I gave up on this long ago, back in 2.1-2.2 . Does auto brightness work properly for ANYone on ANYrom ?
<bbqbot> derp
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<logcat> hmm, honnestly i never really complain about auto-brightness
<logcat> even with it's now "broken" state
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<samosa> I don't mind it much either but its funny how apple gets auto brightness so right ages ago and rest still failing in 2013 .
<samosa> Its like, what could they all be possibly missing?
<samosa> I mean fine, don't do it right, but why even put an auto brightness option if its never going to work?
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* Thracky is now an Optimus G owner :P
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<logcat> haha
<logcat> Thracky i was thinking about it too
<logcat> it should be similar to nexus 4
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<logcat> but looking like SGS II
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<Thracky> logcat: it's really really nice.
<Thracky> even LG's OS is not that bad
<Thracky> very similar to stock android
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<Raiden> hello all
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<beer> samosa: NO IDIOTTE
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<[SkG]> Any hint on the i9100 fezees that are ocurring since the build from day ~12? Any way to debug it? I know is nightly so I dont care much about the freezes but I'd like to be solved.
<peterperfect> Espenfjo
<[SkG]> I've full whiped the phone, reinstalled the apps and I've restaured its data (only app data) with titanium.
<peterperfect> are there freezes on i9100?
<bbqbot> derp
<[SkG]> peterperfect, at least some users says it at xda also my i9100 and the one of a friend has it
<peterperfect> [SkG] random freezes?
<[SkG]> we have to hold power to poweroff it and poweron again
<[SkG]> yes
<peterperfect> Pulser ^^
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<[SkG]> sometimes I have 3 in a row (freeze, restart, enter pin, freeze, restart again, enter pin, 5 minutes, freeze) and sometimes no freeze in more than 12 hours
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<[SkG]> hmmm I dont know if you saw the last line
<[SkG]> <[SkG]> sometimes I have 3 in a row (freeze, restart, enter pin, freeze, restart again, enter pin, 5 minutes, freeze) and sometimes no freeze in more than 12 hours
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<[SkG]> if I can log something with some util I can do it
<peterperfect> hummn
<peterperfect> SIM Pin?
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<[SkG]> yes
<peterperfect> that *may* be related
<[SkG]> ril crash? :/
<peterperfect> if im not wrong, sim pin has something RIL related
<peterperfect> yep
<[SkG]> I dont know I had ril crashes without freezing my phone before.
<[SkG]> I thought about having adb logcat (as in my work I'm always on the computer) and see if there is any relevant event when the freeze ocurrs
<[SkG]> but don't know if it will help, heh
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<peterperfect> FU network
<[SkG]> seems you are having fun with your internet
<peterperfect> third world problems
<addi> no problems with the connection in this part of the third world where I am :P
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* addi sends his internetz to peterperfect
<cdesai> addi: go away
<cdesai> we haz problems too
<peterperfect> addi hehe..india internet? nothanks
<peterperfect> :)
<Espenfjo> dunno
<addi> cdesai, no problems here, so you go away and get new internet connection
<addi> kthxbey
<cdesai> none here too since a while, but as a country
<cdesai> bsnl: kthxbai
<peterperfect> i suggest everybody comes to Brazil and suffer together
<addi> peterperfect, only 2 mbps speed, but will never go down or get slow, at least the one I use. take it! :P
<Anthony1s> i dont get internet where i live
<addi> cdesai, yeah, I was talking about my "part" as in my house :P
<addi> Anthony1s, then you online? go offline pl0x
<[SkG]> peterperfect, connect fiberoptic between your computer and google servers :P
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<peterperfect> [SkG] well, i will ask this for santa
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<[SkG]> I did the previous christmas and he gave me 50mb fiberoptic
<peterperfect> seriously?
<[SkG]> yep
<peterperfect> fuck...i have a 10mb at home that works nice
<peterperfect> but here at job
<peterperfect> its probably a 56600 modem share by 50 people
<[SkG]> at job I have 100mbps
<[SkG]> University :)
<peterperfect> oh, at home im talking about 10mbits
<[SkG]> 100mbits
<peterperfect> which means 1 megabyte/second maximum
<[SkG]> ~12mb/s max up/down
<peterperfect> holy fuck
<cdesai> peterperfect: they should gief you IT dept too
<peterperfect> cdesai true, IT guy here is idiotte
<[SkG]> yep but we have filters everywhere to avoid net abuse that sometimes results in +200ms of ping
<[SkG]> peterperfect, at home http://puu.sh/1sEX2
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<[SkG]> (today my phone decided not to wake me up, so I'm working from house)
<peterperfect> [SkG] stop making me jeallous
<[SkG]> ok logging now... any logcat option I should use=
<peterperfect> [SkG] best thing if freezing again is get the last kernel message
<peterperfect> have you turned simpin off?
<[SkG]> no
<peterperfect> heh
<peterperfect> why u no try it
<peterperfect> ???
<peterperfect> best way o discard or find the problem
<[SkG]> because sometimes crashes x hours later
<[SkG]> not always on after the pin
<peterperfect> i know, doesnt matter
<[SkG]> last kernel log is located at...?
<bbqbot> derp
<peterperfect> /proc/last_kmsg
<[SkG]> ok
<[SkG]> I have no last_kmesg
<peterperfect> last_kmsg is a file
<peterperfect> i have it here
<[SkG]> I did cat /proc/last_kmsg
<[SkG]> let me check again...
<peterperfect> check with file manager
<[SkG]> no last_kmsg with file manager
<[SkG]> maybe not generating it propperly as I had to force reboot?
<[SkG]> I'm going to take a shower, I restarted the phone and got a freeze at pinpad, I'll disable it later
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<peterperfect> ok
<[SkG]> also, now I have last kmesg
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<davidtrc> ei whats up?
<_r00t-> hello everybody! :)
<davidtrc> whats happend with te last update? swype doesnt work with them
<davidtrc> and with last my s2 blocks everytime
<davidtrc> freeze*
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<davidtrc> somebody?
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<addi> davidtrc, is the latest update based on 4.2?
<Fissurez> no addi
<addi> okay :P
<Fissurez> it's 4.3
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<addi> hmm
<addi> sorry then, Swype only works on 4.5 and above
<davidtrc> ahhh ok
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<davidtrc> 4.5? but actually the last oficial is 4.2, npo?
<bbqbot> derp
<addi> davidtrc, kidding
<davidtrc> LOL
<addi> Swype has problems on 4.2 for me on the GNex
<davidtrc> youre crazty
<davidtrc> crazy
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<addi> so could be the same issue for you
<addi> keeps crashing now and then while swiping for me
<addi> I'm trying to get used to the Gesture TYping on stock keyboard, but that stock keyboard has so many annoyances -.-
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<Fissurez> WOO
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<_r00t-> when teamhacksung is about to start porting android 4.2 for galaxy s2 ?
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<_r00t-> logcat : ok sorry :P
<bealtine> dont hold your breath while waiting either
<logcat> haha
<logcat> you will DIE
<logcat> :D
<bealtine> until samsung release some code...the wait might be long
<_r00t-> i see
<_r00t-> all you need is kernel sources from android 4.2 repocitory + samsung exynos..etc... patches, right ?
<bbqbot> derp
<peterperfect> "just" that
<peterperfect> and documentation on how to interface correct with blobs
<logcat> thracky, how is optimus G ?
<bealtine> or the source to the blobs
<logcat> or the blob for aosp, which will never happen
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<treib0r> lo
<Baskey>
<treib0r> i just installed cm10 yesterday on my Galaxy S2 (non G). I charged my mobile over night to 100%. 3h later, my battery was los to 14%. Any clue what happened?
<treib0r> los = low
<Jug6ernaut> shit hit the fan
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<Thracky> logcat: amazing.
<logcat> hmm, that much ?
<logcat> from which carrier did you get it ?
<peterperfect> sduuude
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<peterperfect> who wants to buy a nexus4?
<peterperfect> 530 usd
<peterperfect> must be in US
<RoBz> wtf why so expensive
<peterperfect> well its from ebay
<peterperfect> i already bought one from ebay
<RoBz> ah
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<RoBz> trying to settle an argument here, gta vice city stories is guaranteed to work on the sgs2 but not the sony xperia U. the xperia U has the same GPU as the sgs2, wouldnt that be the most important factor? my friend is claiming the fact that they have different screens and speakers as the bigger issue :s
<Diftraku> screen res is one factor
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<RoBz> ah yeah well it is coming to the xperia play which has the same res
<Diftraku> RAM limitations?
<RoBz> oooh quite possibly
<RoBz> nope, nexus s is listed and its got 512 MB too
<RoBz> should be fine tbh
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<novas242001> hello
<novas242001> !rules
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<addi> hmm, nice, Nexus 4 availability checker: http://ludalex.soupwhale.com/n4checker/?type=n4_16gb
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<Fissurez> Baskey: ♪SPIRIT OF SPARTANS, DEATH AND GLORY♪
<Fissurez> ♪SOLDIERS OF POLAND, SECOND TO NONE♪
<Baskey> WAT
* Fissurez rocks out
<Fissurez> SWEDISH METAL
<Fissurez> ABOUT POLISH PEOPLE
<Baskey> o.O
<Fissurez> it appears that swedish polish are the supreme metal makers
<Fissurez> or would be
<Baskey> Fissurez: metal? MEH
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<Baskey> Fissurez: FISSUREZ
<Baskey> [19:55] <Baskey> Fissurez: metal? MEH
<bbqbot> derp
<Fissurez> BASKEY
<Fissurez> Baskey: tell Karbowiak i said hi
<Fissurez> and when is android 5.0 kransekarbowiak coming out?
<Baskey> [19:57] <@Fissurez> Baskey: tell Karbowiak i said hi
<Baskey> [19:57] <@Fissurez> and when is android 5.0 kransekarbowiak coming out?
<Fissurez> \o/
<Karbowiak> "ok"
<Karbowiak> he clearly has nothing better to do
<Fissurez> Baskey: tell him i have forgiven him
<Fissurez> Baskey: Karbowiak: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYxu_MQSTTY
<Fissurez> <3
<Baskey> [19:59] <@Fissurez> Baskey: tell him i have forgiven him
<Karbowiak> David Blaine sucks
<Baskey> [20:00] <@Fissurez> Baskey: Karbowiak: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYxu_MQSTTY
<Fissurez> ITS A PARODY
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<Karbowiak> you're a parody
<Fissurez> NO U
<GabMus> hello
<Fissurez> 'sup bitch
<GabMus> o_o
<nebkat> Karbowiak: pardy?
<GabMus> is there any possible way to make tv out even partially working on cm10 for i9100?
<Fissurez> get david blain to do it
<GabMus> funny
<GabMus> just kidding, it isnt
<GabMus> i have questions about nandroid backup
<GabMus> how much memory does it use? does it backup the whole system, including the rom and the applications?
<GabMus> and what about applications data like documents and savegames?
<bbqbot> derp
<Fissurez> GabMus: /data /system iir
<Fissurez> and usually up to 2GB
<Fissurez> although you can get higher
<Fissurez> CWM 6 can handle backups of larger than 2GB, before that it's a little bit shakey
<Fissurez> GabMus: it does not touch internel SD iir
<GabMus> what about savegames?
<Fissurez> if they are in appdata, yes
<GabMus> ok
<GabMus> thanks
<Fissurez> if they are stored elsewhere, no
<GabMus> is the rom stored into /system ?
<Fissurez> the backup?
<Fissurez> no, it goes on the SD
<GabMus> the rom
<GabMus> when installed
<Fissurez> if you restore from a nand backup
<GabMus> when i flash cm, the data about the system itself goes to system?
<Fissurez> it'll be like your phone from whenever you backed up
<codeworkx> flashing 4.2 to i9100g
<Fissurez> minus everything on your internal and external SD
<Fissurez> codeworkx: hooray?
<bbqbot> derp
<GabMus> codeworkx: why not i9100?
<GabMus> :D
<codeworkx> fuck exynos
<Fissurez> ^
<Fissurez> codeworkx: what about nexus 10 exynos?
<GabMus> i9100g doesnt have exynos?
<codeworkx> 4.2 doesn't support exynos
<codeworkx> and i'm to lazy
<GabMus> no support at all? D:
<codeworkx> GabMus: omap4
<GabMus> too bad
<Fissurez> GabMus: i9100G is cody's favourite TI
<codeworkx> no support for exynos4
<codeworkx> like always
<Fissurez> codeworkx: srsly?
<GabMus> wont you try?
<Fissurez> or just cody support
<GabMus> :|
<Fissurez> GabMus: why bother?
<Fissurez> GabMus: do what i'm doing
<GabMus> ...
<codeworkx> i'm sick of it
<codeworkx> no motivation
<GabMus> fissurez what are you doing
<Fissurez> sell your i9100 while you can still get a good price, get a nexus 4
<codeworkx> buy nexus
<Fissurez> ^
<Fissurez> COOOODDY
<GabMus> fissurez in italy nexus 4 is 699$
<Fissurez> i ordered my n10 :p
<Fissurez> GabMus: play store?
<GabMus> not available in italy
<peterperfect> ME BOUGHT NEXUS!
<Fissurez> O :C
<Fissurez> which one?
<GabMus> 4
<codeworkx> yay, bootet
<Fissurez> codeworkx: Not even going to look at nexus 10 exynos?
<peterperfect> 4
<codeworkx> samsung is history
<GabMus> cody, know what is your motivation? (if you care)
<codeworkx> xperia phones
<GabMus> all the people that are hoping in cm team to have their devices updated
<GabMus> wtf
<GabMus> nandroid backup not working
<GabMus> im in recovery
<GabMus> i press backup
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<GabMus> it says can't mount backup path
<GabMus> ok
<GabMus> no ext sd
<GabMus> lol
<_Fissurez_> -.-
<GabMus> backupping into internal sd
<GabMus> sorry
<GabMus> it is quicker than i tought
<_Fissurez_> if you don't have much, then it will be
<_Fissurez_> ...
<GabMus> almost done
<_Fissurez_> 75% packet loss to chat.freenode.net?
<_Fissurez_> DAFUQ
<Baskey> _Fissurez_: Y U NO USE GHOST
<_Fissurez_> almost 100% packet loss
<_Fissurez_> Baskey: ghost?
<Baskey> YAS
<_Fissurez_> for after authing?
<Baskey> FOR FREEING FISSUREZ
<_Fissurez_> oh
<_Fissurez_> because i'm not authed?
<_Fissurez_> hodl on
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<GabMus> i want to install thunderbolt jb rom on my i9100, i am currently using cm10. do i have to wipe to flash it?
<_Fissurez_> yes
<GabMus> :(
<codeworkx> GabMus: we've no idea what thunderthing is
<Baskey> _Fissurez_: duuuuude
<GabMus> codeworkx a custom rom based on aokp
<Baskey> GabMus: aokp is evil
<GabMus> with some cm goods too
<GabMus> :P
<Baskey> stick to cm
<_Fissurez_> EVVVIIILLL
<GabMus> what about paranoid android?
<_Fissurez_> still evil
<codeworkx> a custom rom based on aokp which is based on cm which is based on aosp
<codeworkx> great
<_Fissurez_> HOORAY
<GabMus> lol
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<Baskey> CYANGOGENT MODE 11 IS BASED ON ANDROID 5.0 KRANSEKAKE
<Baskey> Fissurez: RITE?
<bbqbot> derp
<Fissurez> ...
<Fissurez> how do i ghostkill again?
<GabMus> g2g later
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<Fissurez> oh nvm
<Fissurez> damn, so long to wait for the n10
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<jslim> hello
<jslim> hello team
<gabmus_away> here i am again
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<GabMus> can i restore only apps from nandroid backup?
<nebkat> GabMus: no
<GabMus> do i have to use titanium for app backup?
<peterperfect> nebkat titanium can read apps on nandroid
<GabMus> is this a statement or a question
<nebkat> maybe
<nebkat> dunno
<peterperfect> statement
<GabMus> cool
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<bbqbot> derp
<GabMus> anyone?
<GabMus> :(
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<GabMus> a simple question: if i install syiah, to restore cm kernel do i just have to flash a cm nightly?
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<codeworkx> Jiangyi: i9100g should be done ;-)
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<GabMus> codeworkx: is the kernel different on 4.2?
<codeworkx> for what?
<GabMus> i9100
<codeworkx> did you see samsung updating it?
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<GabMus> lets change question
<GabMus> is 4.2 kernel different on nexus devices?
<bbqbot> derp
<codeworkx> nexus 10 comes with 3.4
<GabMus> o.O
<GabMus> linux 3.4?
<GabMus> one of the latest, isnt it?
<codeworkx> 3.6 is latest
<GabMus> ONE OF
<GabMus> what about galaxy nexus
<GabMus> codeworkx: what about galaxy nexus
<Baskey> GabMus: DO NOT PING CODY
<Baskey> AS THE TOPIC SAYS
<GabMus> ok .____________.
<codeworkx> GabMus: still 3.x
<codeworkx> GabMus: 3.0.x
<GabMus> i dont get it… could you please explain me why you can't port 4.2 if you already ported 4.1.x? what is this huge difference that makes it impossible to use 4.1.x resources?
<peterperfect> GabMus huge changes on android?
<GabMus> specifically
<peterperfect> Multiuser implementation, several framework redoing
<peterperfect> which gets that the features must be reimplemented over the new android fw
<GabMus> multiuser is just on tablets, isnt it? and what about this framework redoing?
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<peterperfect> things have changed on android, GabMus, i dont have a list. Multiuser is enabled in tablets but its implementation is everywhere in FW
<peterperfect> so features of cm must be rebased to new fw
<GabMus> :\
<GabMus> the problem for the i9100 is exynos4, ok? afaik exynos has community drivers, the ones that cm10 uses
<bbqbot> derp
<GabMus> ok, now why we can't just use those drivers (that afaik only deal with the kernel) and make all the needed android changes?
<peterperfect> we can
<peterperfect> and will
<GabMus> so there will be 4.2 for i9100?
<peterperfect> look
<GabMus> (btw i don't want to be annoying, i just want to know)
<peterperfect> in 4.1.2 there were several hacks to make proprietary drivers work on aosp
<peterperfect> this hacks have to be redone to work in new android version
<peterperfect> and also be applyed on the new branch that was created for 4.2
<peterperfect> theres a lot of rework to do
<peterperfect> and its not guaranteed to work
<GabMus> but is it possible in theor?
<peterperfect> the same way it did with 4.1.2 cause as i told you, things on android framework changed
<peterperfect> yep
<GabMus> ok, im glad to know this
<peterperfect> may i told you one misconcept or another
<peterperfect> but thats the general idea
<peterperfect> maybe a dev can give more accurate insights
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<GabMus> assuming this, why cody is saying all these things about exynos4 devices that will never have 4.2
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<codeworkx> GabMus: it will, but it takes time
<GabMus> ok, i can wait
<codeworkx> GabMus: i'll first do all devices where i know that it's done fast
<GabMus> if there will be support i am good
<codeworkx> i9100g, p31xx, p51xx, sony
<GabMus> ok, no problem
<GabMus> thank you for the information
<codeworkx> GabMus: don't expect it to be better than cm10
<GabMus> i don't
<GabMus> but since cm10 is almost perfect
<GabMus> at least, for a normal user
<codeworkx> eh, it's far away from being perfect
<GabMus> you know, i always want to have clear informations about stuff that involves a 500€ phone
<codeworkx> ok, cm is perfect
<codeworkx> but not on exynos devices
<codeworkx> performance is horrible
<GabMus> i assume this
<codeworkx> compared to other devices
<GabMus> but it is still perfectly usable: i only have to charge it the night
<GabMus> i luv u cody :* kiss me already
<GabMus> xD
<GabMus> ok, thanks for the information and good luck!
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<jomp16> The GTab 2 never will receive a stable release of CM10?
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<Jiangyi> Finally, I have my internet back.
<Jiangyi> That only took what? 2 days? :-|
<Baskey> @geo user Jiangyi
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<Jiangyi> codeworkx: There seems to be some strange things going on with the last few nightlies ever since the CRT-off patch was merged.
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<Jiangyi> Sometimes the animation wouldn't show, also a few occasions where pressing the home or power button wouldn't wake the phone.
<jomp16> Jiangyi, animation of screen off?
<Jiangyi> jomp16: Yes.
<codeworkx> Jiangyi: cool
<codeworkx> Jiangyi: will fix it with 4.2
<Jiangyi> 4.2? :-O
<codeworkx> :-D
<jomp16> I said this here on 19th
<jomp16> Don't build CM 10.1 now!
<jomp16> Or you will port AOSP to GTab 2? :P
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<Jiangyi> codeworkx: You have it booting already?
<codeworkx> Jiangyi: it's done
<codeworkx> but CM isn't ready :-D
<Jiangyi> ._. That was fast.
<codeworkx> not much changes
<codeworkx> lemme do a jb build with changed earlysuspend level
<codeworkx> Jiangyi: you test kernel for me
<Jiangyi> Alrighty.
<Jiangyi> btw, can changing that level cause random battery drain?
<jomp16> How to work with Google Now? To GNow saw the results
<bbqbot> derp
<Jiangyi> Seems like my battery's just dying, and there doesn't seem to be wakelocks. :-|
<Jiangyi> jomp16: System language has to be English (US) or English (UK)
<jomp16> I will try this
<jomp16> Jiangyi, example to saw to GNow?
<Jiangyi> What?
<jomp16> "it's going to rain tomorrow", etc
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<Jiangyi> Oh.
<Jiangyi> Just ask what's the weather.
<Jiangyi> Usually works.
<jomp16> Worked, "set alarm", "what is Android", etc
<jomp16> with Google Translator :P
<Jiangyi> Thanks^
<GabMus> g2g bye
<jomp16> Jiangyi, with voice in PT BR Google Now works, is possible to force Google Now to english and the system to portuguese?
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<Jiangyi> No clue, never tried it.
<jomp16> :(
<jomp16> Google Now is goooood
<jomp16> Is best than Siri of Apple
<nebkat> Fissurez: FISSUREZZ
<codeworkx> Jiangyi: think crt off is broken xD
<Jiangyi> lol
<Jiangyi> I expected that. xP
<Fissurez> NEBKAT
<nebkat> NEBKATT*
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<Jiangyi> codeworkx: The no-animation screen off occurs less frequently now, I'll have to test a bit more to see if there's still the prob where it can't wake up.
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<Jiangyi> Thracky: (Only 2 days late) I'm constantly maxing out the download speed of my D2 modem. How slow does yours get?
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<chadouming> Jiangyi, thracky got a optimistic G :P
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<Jiangyi> Daflip
<Jiangyi> ._.
<Jiangyi> What happened to "No locked bootloaders"?
<bbqbot> derp
<chadouming> Optimus , stupid autocorrect
<peterperfect> well, it got unlocked today
<nebkat> Thracky: Thracky: IDUUT
<nebkat> #dutta
<Jiangyi> Oh wow.
<Jiangyi> You really do miss a ton of stuff when you go without internet for 2 days. :-|
<chadouming> Haha ofc
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<jomp16> Anyone know a kernel overclocked to in CM10 for P3110?
<jomp16> AOKP kernel works with me, but has other?
<Thracky> The optimus G is awesome :P
<Thracky> and actually the LG UI isn't half bad.
<Thracky> a lot of good features with little bloat.
<Thracky> Jiangyi: and I have a docsis 3 modem
<jomp16> The Galaxy Tab 2 will receive a "stable" release of CM10?
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<Harkonnen> anyone had a perfectly stable phone yesterday on CM10 which started freezing quite frequently today?
<xtacocorex> Thracky, which carrier do you have the optimus g on?
<Thracky> telus
<Thracky> it's the e973
<Thracky> so 8 mp camera, no sd
<xtacocorex> crap, i forgot you're in canada
<Thracky> it's sort of a hybrid between the sprint and at&t :P
<xtacocorex> i have sprint and they put their stupid sprint id crap on the optimus g
<Thracky> there was literally NO telus apps on here.
<Thracky> awesome.
<xtacocorex> i played with one today, pretty badass, but sprint is doing a deal on friday for an sIII for $60
<nebkat> bealtine: have I talked to you about how shit three 3g speeds are?
<nebkat> CUS DEY SHIT
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<bealtine> heh...i know i write blogs about it:)
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<beer> bealtine: what is the issue with them?
<beer> I heard someone say they are simply overloaded?
<beer> too much traffic
<beer> could that be the issue?
<bealtine> partly
<bealtine> and the channels here are only 5Mhz wide
<beer> the LTE in 2013 should be a big boost?
<beer> if only LTE wasn't so fragmented :/
<bealtine> eh no
<Thracky> lol don
<Thracky> don't say LTE to bealtine
<Thracky> don't mention it in his presence at all
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<bealtine> heh
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<Thracky> someone's kicky today :D
<bealtine> vod have 25Mhz chs and 3 have 20Mhz chs
<bealtine> for lte
<bealtine> the beeb did some tests on LTE in the UK today
<bealtine> 20Mhz channels and all:)
<bealtine> average speed was zero:)
<beer> im off
<beer> ttyt
<beer> Thracky: nah, its just you :P
<bealtine> the problem with all shared mediums is that the more people that use it the speed available for each user s shared
<bealtine> which is why some ppl get zero
<logcat> Thracky: what speed do you get on telus lte %
<logcat> ?*
<bbqbot> derp
<Thracky> logcat: not much better than the s3, average around 18 or so now.
<Thracky> but I'm in a densely populated area.
<logcat> ah, kk
<bealtine> wait til every idiot has an LTE device
<logcat> bealtine: by then, there wont be hspa and network will be better :P
<bealtine> hspa is 3g :)
<Thracky> logcat: you won't win this argument.
<logcat> haha
<bealtine> and we are currently at the shannon limit so no networks wont get better
<logcat> bealtine, i know, but they will free some channel :P
<bealtine> only solution is more spectrum
<bealtine> and that wont happen
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<bealtine> if you want to know how fast a network will go you use the bits/hertz measure
<bealtine> LTE is approx 16 bits per hz
<bealtine> on a good day
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<bealtine> aka Spectral efficiency
<logcat> we got it, you dont like LTE
<bealtine> lte is fine:)
<bealtine> its just not suitable for some things
<bealtine> like some idiot claimed LTE will do 180Mb/s
<bealtine> its fine for twitter and a bit of surfing
<bealtine> but gimme fibre any day
<logcat> fiber on a phone ?
<bealtine> heh no:)
<bealtine> fibre to my distrib point here
<bealtine> well hfc...
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