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<dagelf> Any plans for a debian package for sandstorm?
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<asheesh> Hi dagelf !
* dagelf waves!! Hi!
<asheesh> Not yet. Rationale is that Sandstorm self-containerizes, and so it violates policy about embedded code copies. There's also the issue that we want as many people as possible on auto-updates.
<asheesh> But I have a question, which is: would it be useful enough to have sandstorm-installer be a Debian package in contrib, which is the Sandstorm install.sh?
<dagelf> Aha... I just asked about where I can find those policies in the debian channel... :-)
<asheesh> BTW I'm also in #debconf - are you here at the conference?
<asheesh> And also I can chat in a hack lab too if you like!
<dagelf> Yes, but out today
<asheesh> Ah OK
<dagelf> I'm from CPT so catching up on work in town... :-)
<dagelf> I'm still wrapping my head around a good distro philosophy.... about what should and what shouldn't be packaged... and what the best level is to do what... having something packaged so it conforms to a standard installation procedure does build confidence and trust in something, and makes it easier for people to test out and use...
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<bony> we deployed a sandtorm on our servers everything is working fine except that I am unable to access any grains in firefox, though I am able to login to sandstorm with token
<simonv3> I’m not able to log in to TTRSS via an app (a couple of iOS and Android apps) using the generated webkey. My input options are Server Address and Login and Password. So for Server Address I input the webkey URL (minus everything after and including the #, looks like https://api-<hash>.oasis.sandstorm.io) and for password I input everything after the #. For
<simonv3> username I just use ‘simon’. I get a 401 error.
<simonv3> This is on Oasis. I’m wondering if I’m forgetting an extra step?
<simonv3> on ios I suspect the problem is that none of the apps have the ability for HTTP Auth, but the android apps do
<simonv3> And there it still doesn’t work
<simonv3> Hmm, just accessing the URL via the browser doesn’t work either, maybe I’ll generate a new one
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<simonv3> Generating a new one worked!
<dwrensha> bony: can you access grains using a non-Firefox browser?
<dwrensha> (my guess would be "no")
<bony> dwrensha: yes I am able to access grains in chromium
<dwrensha> interesting!
<dwrensha> bony: are you using a self-signed certificate?
<bony> dwrensha: everything is working fine in chromium. In firefox I can see the grains that I created, when I open them a big spinning icon appears and thats it
<bony> dwrensha: yes I am using selfsigned cert
<dwrensha> aha
<bony> dwrensha: ok I know what your are going to say :) Well I downloaded the cert and added that to firefox manually.
<dwrensha> the way that I know how to get that to work in Firefox is to add the Certificate Authority
<bony> I did the same with chrominum and only then it worked in chromium
<dwrensha> like, not just the certificate
<bony> dwrensha: yeah right adding not just cert but Certificate Authority. thats what I did.
<bony> dwrensha: let me check again hold on
<dwrensha> Firefox -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Certificates -> View Certificates -> Authorities
<bony> dwrensha: yeah I just now reconfirmed. I did add my self sighned certificate authority to firefox
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<dwrensha> weird
<bony> I don't know if this is something to do with certificate becuase I did the same thing in chromium and it worked
<dwrensha> does the browser console display any error when you try to open a grain in Firefox?
<bony> dwrensha: When I check the js console I only get one message which says if you want to debug then follow some link
<dwrensha> what about in the "network" tab?
<bony> dwrensha: I get a bunch of 304 errors on some svg's not getting loaded
<dwrensha> yeah, the SVGs are failing probably because they are being served from the wildcard host
<bony> oh
<dwrensha> i.e. probably the same reason that grains are failing to load
<bony> i think thats close becuase after I loging and when i go to the grains page I can't see logos of on the grains
<bony> now can I use sandcats? I think that will confirm if the error is with certs. But I don't know if I can do that now when the instance is running. though it is a testing instance I can always point it to any domain or restart serveral times since it is not in production yet.
<bony> is there a way around for not using wildcard's?
<dwrensha> the wildcard host is important
<bony> yes I get it :)
<bony> but the strange thing is that it works in chromium and not in firefox
<bony> I tried this on some on my friends systems its the same
<bony> so I have cert like this *.sub.domain.tld will this work?
<dwrensha> What is your WILDCARD_HOST in /opt/sandstorm/sandstorm.conf?
<bony> dwrensha: samething *.sub.domain.tld
<dwrensha> and the BASE_URL?
<dwrensha> hmm...
<dwrensha> this may or may not help, but...
<dwrensha> I've had better luck doing WILDCARD_HOST = "*-sandstorm.domain.tld"
<dwrensha> and BASE_URL="https://sandstorm.domain.tld"
<dwrensha> so they can share the same wildcard
<bony> dwrensha: that looks like a good option
<bony> dwrensha: so what should I do to apply this change? just change the sandstorm.conf and restart sandtorm will do?
<bony> or should I also do some changes in firefox?
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<dwrensha> if you change sandstorm.conf, you'll need to do `sudo sandstorm restart` for the changes to take effect
<bony> ok cool
<bony> let me check that
<dwrensha> and sounds like your cert is for "*.sub.domain.tld", while my suggestion applied to "*.domain.tld"
<dwrensha> so you may need to adjust accordingly
<dwrensha> maybe WILDCARD_HOST="*-sandstorm.sub.domain.tld" and BASE_URL="https://sandstorm.sub.domain.tld"
<dwrensha> or maybe regenerate the cert
<bony> dwrensha: ok i will check that, but one thing that still bugs me is that why is it working on chromium and not on firefox. Hope I will figure it out later for now I will also check sandcats.io as an option hope it works.
<dwrensha> that doesn't bug me so much. It seems plausible that firefox is being more strict about something or other. It's just too bad that it's not telling what.
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<bony> dwrensha: thanks a lot for the help. I will check and let know what happened. meanwhile can I now go to sandcats.io from the current domain? in that case how to do that?
<dwrensha> you should be able to switch over to sandcats
<dwrensha> I'm not sure about the best way to go about taht
<dwrensha> asheesh would know
<dwrensha> usually it gets set up when you run the installer
<dwrensha> if you don't mind starting over, you could clobber the whole install and then start over
<bony> dwrensha: hmmm I too thought the of starting over but there is some data with the current instance that I need to retain
<bony> so can I take a backup and restore it with new instance?
<dwrensha> yeah, you can backup and restore individual grains
<bony> oh cool so I will do that first. thanks again dwrensha for the help
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<asheesh> Howdy all including dwrensha & bony
<asheesh> bony: Did you still want advice on this?
<asheesh> Also good morning, hope you're well, glad you're enjoying Sandstorm. I'm scrolling up a little bit to understand a little too.
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<bony> asheesh: thanks for that. I am thinking of moving to sandcats.io
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