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<mrdomino> anything new in the new groovebasin release?
<mrdomino> (cc dwrensha)
<dwrensha> so it should consume less memory
<mrdomino> awesome! thanks :)
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<jacksingleton> heyo, I noticed a 504 and a few connection problems on oasis last night and just now. are there any known issues right now?
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<jacksingleton> uh oh… I just witnessed sandforms go into (I'm assuming) a reload loop and issue over 200 requests. that is likely the problem
<jacksingleton> happening intermittently though :/
<dwrensha> eek
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* jacksingleton hopes he isn't ddosing every sandstorm server running sandforms
<kentonv> Meteor apps on Sandstorm are known to go into a reload loop when WebSockets aren't working
<kentonv> we really need to track down that issue
<kentonv> sometimes your browser will spontaneously decide that your network blocks WebSockets and will stop using them
<kentonv> closing the browser and re-opening usually fixes that
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<jacksingleton> nasty because that reload loop then triggers ddos heuristics which then further impedes WS and XHR attempts
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<kentonv> ddos heuristics?
<kentonv> which part of the system is implementing ddos heuristics?
<jacksingleton> well my sever was, yours maybe isn't for grain connections?
<jacksingleton> yours -> oasis
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<kentonv> it's something we should probably implement sometime but, yeah, we don't have that currently
<jacksingleton> ah well maybe there is something weirder going on then
<jacksingleton> I got a few 504s and 502s from oasis grain connections
<kentonv> is this ongoing or was it at a specific time?
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<jacksingleton> intermittent, last 20 minutes, possibly ongoing
<jacksingleton> (log from js console)
<jacksingleton> I can send you the grain id if it helps
<kentonv> might as well see if it appears in the logs
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<jacksingleton> if something is going terribly wrong in the grain, would it manifest as 504s and 502s?
<kentonv> it looks like the 502s are because the back-end timed out. On the back-end, I see Blackrock struggling to connect to the grain here and there, as if the grain had exited or crashed
<kentonv> normally details of such crashes land in the grain debug log
<jacksingleton> ah found one
<kentonv> ohhhhhh, when did you last update?
<kentonv> sandforms, I mean
<kentonv> 0.166 and 0.167 had a memory corruption bug, fixed in 0.168 (a couple days ago)
<kentonv> in sandstorm-http-bridge
<jacksingleton> jun 17th
<kentonv> ok, yeah
<jacksingleton> cool, will rebuild
<kentonv> sorry, I tried to remember all the updates we received in the past two weeks but missed sandforms
<jacksingleton> np thanks for the help debugging
<kentonv> the bug often causes sandstorm-http-bridge to hang rather than crash, which would explain timeouts
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<dwrensha> kentonv: memory corruption, not just leak?
<kentonv> dwrensha: yeah. Specifically zeroing memory that was previously free'd
<kentonv> I had an Orphan<Data> that outlived the MessageBuilder it pointed into
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<kentonv> amusingly I accidentally fixed the problem while refactoring last week, and then I spent a bunch of time on Friday trying to debug why FileDrop kept hanging but not being able to reproduce the problem with a debug build. :)
<dwrensha> ugh. we should really write some tests for this stuff
<kentonv> this would have been hard to catch in a test, though
<kentonv> since it was non-deterministic
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<simonv3> hey all, is there a reason that when I log in using one of my linked (non-primary) email addresses onto oasis I think I’m not accessing the same account?
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<simonv3> The reason I’m using this e-mail address instead of my primary one is because I don’t have access to the primary one on the device I want to access from
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<dwrensha> simonv3: that sounds odd
<zarvox> that reminds me, we need to fix the case-sensitive-email thing :S
<dwrensha> simonv3: are you sure that the email address is linked to your main account?
<dwrensha> zarvox: yeah, I was just going to link to https://github.com/sandstorm-io/sandstorm/issues/1736
<simonv3> dwrensha: I think so
<simonv3> dwrensha: both e-mails (and github) appear in the list of e-mails when I’m logged in on oasis on my desktop
<dwrensha> If you look at that email identity from your main account, does a box appear in the profile editor saying something like "this identity is linked to another account"?
<simonv3> oh wait, I just saw that there’s a list of identities through which I can toggle, and a list of e-mails at the bottom of the screen (which is what I just referred to). When I go through the process of linking an account and entering the toking now the toggle shows the second e-mail as well
<dwrensha> ah, so maybe it picked up that email address from a different identity, maybe even from the github identity
<simonv3> very possibly
<simonv3> yep, looks like that fixed it
<dwrensha> what happens when you now try to log in with that email?
<simonv3> I see the right account
<simonv3> What I expected to happen, I guess I just hadn’t linked it and the e-mail address listed at the bottom threw me off
<dwrensha> I can see how that might be confusing
<dwrensha> so this is good feedback
<zarvox> I wonder if it would have been clearer if notifications and identities were on separate pages
<zarvox> I kind of wish we encouraged accounts with overlapping verified email addresses to merge
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<simonv3> zarvox: yeah, maybe even just a header with “send notifications to” would have helped I think
<simonv3> or, I guess that bar is a header, maybe a slightly stronger font style?
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<zarvox> simonv3: or adding some horizontal rule
<zarvox> But yeah, I agree it would be better if the sections were more clearly separate things, and I personally feel like some of those sections ought to get split into separate pages
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