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<asheesh> Please try to keep the channel to family-friendly language if possible, lukexj (-:
<lukexj> im sorry
<asheesh> It's OK; thanks for saying so.
<asheesh> https://docs.sandstorm.io/en/latest/administering/ssl/ covers a variety of ways to get HTTPS working.
<lukexj> i have trouble with my language filter
<asheesh> Making an effort is appreciated!
<asheesh> Anyway, the link "costs some money" on that page points to a search where you can look up other vendors too.
<lukexj> oh
<isd> I've seen wildcard certs for ~$80.
<isd> (per year)
<isd> I'm just using sandcats myself.
<lukexj> also any way i can free up space on my vps it only has a 40gb ssd
<lukexj> sandstorm isnt getting rid of any space when i delete grains
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<simonv3> if I understand it right, if you’re the only person using the server + cert, the fact that your certifying organization isn’t hugely acknowledged shouldn’t be a big deal right?
<simonv3> but I may not be understanding it right
<ocdtrekkie> lukexj, did you delete them from your trash?
<lukexj> yes
<ocdtrekkie> Okay, figured I'd ask the easy question before someone else did.
<ocdtrekkie> ;)
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<ocdtrekkie> simonv3 AFAIK, you could do a self-signing thing, and handle adding your self-signed cert to your computers and such.
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<simonv3> ocdtrekkie: yeah that makes sense
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<isd> Yeah, I've done that in the past -- make your own CA and add it to your browser.
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<zarvox> lukexj: hmmm, sandstorm should be releasing the space on disk when you empty the trash - you can confirm a grain's folder is getting cleaned up by looking in /opt/sandstorm/var/sandstorm/grains for a folder with the matching grain ID
<zarvox> where the grain ID is the random string after /grain/ in the HTTP URL when you open that grain
<zarvox> Sandstorm stores all its data under /opt/sandstorm by default, so you can look around in there to get a better understanding of your disk usage
<lukexj> zarvox: when i install apps it says it unpacks something can i remove the packed app to get rid of space or something?
<lukexj> to get more space i mean
<zarvox> Oh, you can uninstall apps, and if you're the only user with that app installed, then it should GC the app package
<lukexj> okay
<lukexj> i guess im fine with the space usage
<lukexj> i got 30gb left on the vps
<zarvox> otherwise, IIRC Sandstorm GCs unreferenced packages once a day across all users
<zarvox> (to clean up old packages after e.g. app updates)
<lukexj> ok
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<Telesight> Hello all, is it possible to install Sandstorm inside a LXC container? No problems with functionality?
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<jaydenhawkes123> hello
<Telesight> Hello all, is it possible to install Sandstorm inside a LXC container? Without problems with functionality?
<dwrensha> Telesight: maybe! however, some people have reported problems when they've tried: https://github.com/sandstorm-io/sandstorm/issues/1466
<dwrensha> jaydenhawkes123: hi
<Telesight> dwrensha: Thank you. I think I will try it and then see what goes wrong ...
<Telesight> Are there also syncing possibilities/functionalities of Sandstorm with a phone or tablet ?
<dwrensha> The davros app should work with mobile clients: https://apps.sandstorm.io/app/8aspz4sfjnp8u89000mh2v1xrdyx97ytn8hq71mdzv4p4d8n0n3h
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<simonv3> any work being done on having a sandstorm app that is for connecting IoT things to it?
<simonv3> Thinking something like ARM’s Embed Service https://www.mbed.com/en/development/cloud/mbed-device-connector-service/
<simonv3> Though I don’t know much about the ARM thing
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<asheesh> Howdy simonv3
<asheesh> simonv3: Not yet, that I know of. I'd love to see a proof of concept on it; maybe there's an open source IoT hub thing worth packaging?
<simonv3> asheesh: literally a field I know like 0 about, but I have a friend working on the mbed thing for ARM so he was just telling me about it
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* asheesh waves
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<jaydenhawkes123> Hello, Does any1 know if i should run sandstorm as a virtual container or a virtual machine
<asheesh> A VM is usually easier, but a container can work possibly, but you might run into conflicts where the containerizing system has disallowed some features Sandstorm needs.
<jaydenhawkes123> okay thanks
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