15:41 <jkbbwr> Hey i don't supose kentonv is around :)

15:42 <jkbbwr> or anyone that knows about schema driven serialization

15:59 <jkbbwr> hey amyers !

16:01 <jkbbwr> Oh

16:13 <jkbbwr> I really want to find a schema driven serialization format that lets me do this https://gist.github.com/jkbbwr/97b2a069f1743c1288f6

16:48 <dwrensha> jkbbwr: what does "extend" mean in that schema?

19:39 <mnutt_> Is anyone working on / thinking about a password manager in sandstorm? Seems like a good use case for keeping the data yourself. I never particularly trusted any of the centralized password managers, even if they only hold the encrypted vault

19:40 <mnutt_> I use 1password + davros to sync, but I’ll bet there’s an opportunity for a nice web UI

19:41 <pdurbin> yeah, there probably is

20:58 <kentonv> jkbbwr: seems like you want Cap'n Proto's AnyPointer or proto3's "Any" type (note: I haven't used the latter). It's a field that contains one object/message of any type, as opposed to proto2 extensions where multiple extensions could be present at once.

21:04 <ckocagil> kentonv: would you consider making a blog post comparing capnp serialization to proto3 and grpc to capnp rpc?

21:06 <kentonv> hmm

21:07 <kentonv> ckocagil: proto3 is not much different from proto2, fundamentally. They removed some features. Removing unknown fields feels like a big mistake but it's a bit of a wonky subject.

21:08 <kentonv> ckocagil: grpc is basically the open source version of Stubby. Whenever the Cap'n Proto RPC docs say "traditional RPC system", I was thinking of Stubby. ;)

21:08 <kentonv> but it could make sense to write a blog post that is more explicit about this

21:08 <kentonv> certainly the capnp-flatbuffer-sbe blog post was pretty successful

21:12 <ckocagil> kentonv: I find such comparison posts to be really useful when it comes to making tech decisions. field reports are even better!

23:29 <asheesh> Hi ckocagil, I'm about to use a new gogs repo in Sandstorm for hosting the content of my personal blog.

23:29 <asheesh> So I just wanted to say -- thank you!

23:29 <ckocagil> yay, I'm glad people are using my ports

23:39 <asheesh> i,i "Sandstorm is the Zero-Lock-in Secure Cloud"

23:39 <asheesh> mnutt_: I would love to see a password manager.

23:40 <asheesh> I have vague dreams of starting by porting https://pypi.python.org/pypi/django-pstore but I have not done that yet.

23:40 <asheesh> It has the upside of being GPG-based.

23:40 <ckocagil> a front-end to keepass databases wouldn't be too hard, right?

23:40 <asheesh> That's interesting.

23:40 <asheesh> Indeed https://github.com/gesellix/keepass-node

23:40 <asheesh> My use-case, fwiw, is organizational password sharing.

23:41 <mnutt_> asheesh: yeah. I’m kind of on the fence between a) building a separate password manager, b) building 1password’s/keepass’s web viewer into davros (not likely without some kind of plugin architecture), c) something something powerbox

23:41 <asheesh> I'm OK with asking everyone to set up a GPG key in my case.

23:41 <asheesh> re: c) you might want to take some to test out the "copy-paste powerbox" if you haven't already, fwiw.

23:42 <mnutt_> asheesh: do you have a link to that? I’ve seen the demo-app repo, but it’s a bit hard to figure out what’s going on there.

23:43 <asheesh> I don't have docs written-up, sadly. I can show you some SPKs and give you a guided tour sometime, though.

23:43 <asheesh> I actually think the best demo is to manually work through the test suite (-;

23:43 <asheesh> https://github.com/sandstorm-io/sandstorm/blob/master/tests/apps/powerbox.js

23:44 <mnutt_> ahh, that helps tie it together!