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<zarvox>
Has anyone tried compiling Sandstorm with ld = ld.gold rather than ld.bfd?
<zarvox>
I tried, but then supervisor appears to SIGABRT as soon as it launches, which was sufficiently odd to convince me to look into other things instead
<zarvox>
asheesh: spk pack is slow because xz is slow
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<asheesh>
Oh right, zarvox. I do wish I had a --i-really-dont-care-about-compression-quality when testing for just myself, I guess.
<asheesh>
Also I guess, the signature could be over the uncompressed data, and then the app market could recompress as desired.
<asheesh>
That has its own problems I guess.
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* XgF
wonders how performance would compare with something like lzham
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<asheesh>
I'm not sure yet! I haven't watched/listened; just read the page, finally, though.
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<KCinJP>
Brief description of what it does. Noah seemed impressed. I have been a listener for a while. They are always talking about alternatives like this.
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<asheesh>
Cool (-:
<asheesh>
Hopefully Sandstorm will "soon" be seen not as an "alternative" but as the obvious choice (-:
<KCinJP>
I would love to see an interview on the show.
<asheesh>
: D You should tell them that!
<KCinJP>
Frank from OwnCloud has been on a few times.
<KCinJP>
Who should I suggest they contact?
<asheesh>
community@sandstorm.io is a group email address for many of us, and we can find the best person, perhaps one of the two founders (Kenton/Jade), or one of the people who implemented Google Docs-style sharing (David) or one of the people who implemented free HTTPS certificates (asheesh) or one of the people who implemented the new user interface and dev tools (zarvox) or one of the people who implemented
<asheesh>
app market integration (jparyani)
<KCinJP>
Got it.
<KCinJP>
Bedtime. 1am here.
<asheesh>
Cool!
<asheesh>
In other news, two hypothetically cool Sandstorm apps:
<|jemc|>
dwrensha: pony has a small runtime with a actor scheduler, which uses a work-stealing algorithm to choose which messages sent to actors are processed on which thread
<dwrensha>
who gets to choose how many threads there are?
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<|jemc|>
it's a runtime option you can pass, but I believe the default is one thread per core
<|jemc|>
the distributed runtime described in the later part of that paper is not finished/public yet
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<|jemc|>
just to confirm my earlier statement, yes, the application binary produced by the `ponyc` compiler will accept a `--ponythreads` option to specify the number of threads, which uses the detected number of cores by default
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<sprin>
asheesh: thanks for merging the graphs PR!
<sprin>
I'll be working some more on getting my app in line with the sandstorm auth model today.
<asheesh>
sprin: Oh my goodness thanks for making it.
<mnutt__>
yeah, I just now got a chance to look and it looks good. exactly what I was thinking.
<mnutt__>
I don’t know if you necessarily want to encourage adding new http features as a contributor’s first foray into sandstorm development, but I’d imagine it is the thing that people run up against first. if it is the direction you want to go, I could imagine a guide based around it
<asheesh>
Hah.
<asheesh>
People want it borderline-distressingly often.
<mnutt__>
on the other hand, you probably don’t want people to jump to “I want to modify sandstorm to add my special http header”
<asheesh>
And given that it's the most rigid Sandstorm component that apps are built upon, I guess it makes sense that people hit it frequently.
<mnutt__>
I’m sure they feel the same way about android/ios development, they just don’t get a say at all there
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<sprin>
speaking of http headers, if #1202 (response header whitelist) is on the right track for merging, I'd like to add some tests/docs
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<asheesh>
sprin: I realize it's a non-answer, but: email Kenton if you want faster review!
<asheesh>
His nick not being here indicates to me he isn't looking at IRC.
<asheesh>
And/or ping the GitHub issues thread on the thread.
<asheesh>
You can blame me for the extra noise, if you want! I'm @paulproteus on GitHub.
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<asheesh>
BTW mnutt__ there's 'ember deploy'... how hard would it to be to make, like, ember deploy --type=spk ?
<asheesh>
Just a random thought of the evening, not a request that you do it.
<mnutt__>
asheesh: not hard, `ember spk` watches for file changes and calls `ember deploy` under the hood, before killing and restarting vagrant-spk
<mnutt__>
the biggest win there would be for `spk` to accept a SIGHUP without having to kill and restart it, and `vagrant-spk` could pass its SIGHUP along to `spk`. that would make the whole process way less messy
<mnutt__>
it has been on my list for a bit but I just haven’t gotten around to it yet
<Jan\>
hey I just installed hummmingbird and need help testing it, access the page at http://vps216546.ovh.net/wp/
<Jan\>
the issue I'm having is the location is always the same
<mnutt__>
hmm. where is the location showing? mountain view?
<Jan\>
no its showing my location
<mnutt__>
Jan\: where are you located?
<Jan\>
the locatioin it keeps displayingi s Hamilton, Ca
<Jan\>
I,ve seen the same issue with piwik
<Jan\>
all visits show just one location
<mnutt__>
do you run sandstorm directly, or behind nginx or something?
<Jan\>
no I run it from a VPS in france
<Jan\>
i think the issue is sandstorm
<mnutt__>
hmm, so sandstorm listens directly on 80 and 443
<Jan\>
yes
<Jan\>
well, I access it with sandcats
<Jan\>
i.e. example.sandcats.com:6080
<mnutt__>
yeah, that’s odd. I wonder if sandstorm is having a problem with the way the linux network interface is configured or something
<Jan\>
well there is an issue somewhere because the same issue happens with piwik and hummingbird
<mnutt__>
it’d be pretty easy to make a network reflection app that just responded with the value of X-Real-IP it received
<Jan\>
mnutt__: try the page again I added a diffferent tracker
<mnutt__>
Jan\: ok reloading again
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<Jan\>
mnutt__: ok so the different tracking that is not in sandstorm can tell locations
<Jan\>
mnutt__: ok it seems ot work for piwik too
<mnutt__>
Jan\: what do you mean different tracking? running the app outside sandstorm?