<drbrain> what's going on now?
<raggi> drbrain: not sure, i'm not even really planning on looking as the new indexer solves this anyway
<raggi> drbrain: but i'm guess rg.org doens't create full gemspecs in the marshal/quick indexes
<drbrain> oh, yup
<drbrain> that's on purpose
<____swanson> is there a better channel to ask about rubygems.org? I just assumed this was it
<drbrain> no sense sending files around
<____swanson> so if I want a field that isnt in the quick index (i.e. License) I have to DL the full gem
<drbrain> they only contain enough information for `gem dep` and `gem search`
<drbrain> ____swanson: yep
<drbrain> ____swanson: since it's a tar file you can do clever things with range requests
<____swanson> not sure what you mean by "range requests"
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<___swanson> @drbrain sorry, my connection dropped - you were saying something about a range request
<raggi> drbrain: oh right, i see
<___swanson> so I would only request the metadata.gz part?
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<raggi> drbrain: so, in order to make index generation fast, i'm thinking about relying on a flat existing index structure (in the new version), and one of the aspects will be expanded gemspec files
<drbrain> so you can say "give me the first tar header", check if it has metadata.gz, then fetch it (if present) otherwise request the next tar header
<drbrain> ___swanson: you can probably reuse the tar code in rubygems to do this
<drbrain> … I'm pretty sure S3 allows Range requests
<___swanson> I love that TarReader class btw - it was super handy on a project
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<drbrain> it was written by Mauricio Fernandez for a competing ruby package tool, RPA
<drbrain> long, long ago
<___swanson> the backstory is im trying to write a little webapp when you upload your gemfile and it checks all the licenses
<___swanson> we needed to check for a work project so I figured I'd improve my kludge and let others use it
<drbrain> cool
<___swanson> but v0 involved just checking github License/LICENSE/MIT-LICENSE etc
<raggi> i hate having to do that
<___swanson> v1 im trying to hook into license in the gemspec
<raggi> only about 10% of the unlicensed gem authors were good enough to add licenses when i asked them to
<raggi> so the rest, we had to stop using their code
<___swanson> yeah - its a real problem when you work in more strict environments
<___swanson> regulate industries, shipping embedded stuff
<raggi> it's more of a problem for less strict environments actually
<___swanson> you cant just add gems willy-nilly
<raggi> when one day someone gets their pants sued off
<___swanson> I guess thats true also :)
<raggi> most of teh strict environments have armies of lawyers
<raggi> it's the ltitle guys that will be screwed
<___swanson> the strict ones are the ones that have a person on staff to check on Licensing stuff, they it actually has to be audited
<___swanson> anyways, thanks @raggi @drbrain - your knowledge was very helpful
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<raggi> ___swanson: glad my guesses could help
<drbrain> ___swanson: np
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<paulsher2ood> hi - i'm trying to build rubygems from source with ruby 2.0.0-p0...
<paulsher2ood> ruby setup.rb gives me "ERROR: While executing gem ... (ArgumentError) invalid byte sequence in US-ASCII
<paulsher2ood> any ideas, please?
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<pencil> paulsher2ood: export LANG="en_US.UTF-8" ; export LC_ALL="en_US.UTF-8"
<paulsher2ood> pencil: sadly, no joy with that
<paulsher2ood> fwiw gems itself installs fine, it's the installing ri documentation that fails
<pencil> add "gem: --no-ri --no-rdoc" to ~/.gemrc :D
<paulsher2ood> :-)
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<paulsher2ood> that's a solution of sorts , ideally i want to fix it properly though
<pencil> no idea, sorry
<paulsher2ood> ok, thanks for your help pencil
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<drbrain> damnit
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