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<vowel_boy> guys, i'm trying to install the rails 4 beta on ruby 2.0, and according to --verbose, gem install is pulling the gemspec for every published version of Rails' declared dependencies—is this right?
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<drbrain> vowel_boy: yes
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<vowel_boy> drbrain: fair enough... thanks!
<drbrain> we're working on a new index format and some other improvements
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<swills> drbrain: thoughts on reviving gemtesters? good idea/bad idea? doable? too much effort? not worth it given travis-ci?
<drbrain> I think it's a good idea and doable, but it will be a tough sell with travis-ci
<swills> k
<swills> i wonder if i can get someone to sponsor running it
<swills> the digital ocean server i setup for $5/mo may be enough to run it, who knows.
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<tubbo> hey kids
<tubbo> i'm trying to get rubygems and bundler and ruby2.0.0-p0 to all play nice together
<tubbo> so from watching twitter last week i deduced that i need rubygems 2, bundler 2 and ruby 2, right?
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<drbrain> you need bundler 1.3 for rubygems 2
<tubbo> but when i try to `gem install rubygems-update` for the new version of RubyGems, i get "installing into parent path /Users/necromancer/Sites/api.elocal.com/vendor/gems/gems/rubygems-update-2.0.0/.autotest of vendor/gems/gems/rubygems-update-2.0.0 is not allowed"
<drbrain> rubygems-update is only installed by `gem update --system`
<tubbo> ahhh ok
<drbrain> at least, I've never heard of anyone installing it with `gem install`, so maybe that won't work (like you show)
<drbrain> you don't need ruby 2 to run rubygems 2
<tubbo> drbrain: hmm lemme clear out my old vendor/gems dir
<tubbo> and try this again
<drbrain> rubygems is tested on ruby 1.8.7, 1.9.2, 1.9.3, 2.0.0
<tubbo> drbrain: uh oh :D
<tubbo> somehow i now have rubygems 2.0!
<tubbo> might've come with the ruby-build of 2.0.0-p0
<drbrain> yes
<tubbo> and now i can't install bundler
<tubbo> "installing into parent path /Users/necromancer/Sites/api.elocal.com/vendor/gems/gems/bundler-1.3.0/.gitignore of vendor/gems/gems/bundler-1.3.0 is not allowed"
<tubbo> now i fucked up lol
<drbrain> that's quite odd
<tubbo> drbrain: i feel like the ruby-build should come with bundler 1.3
<tubbo> i mean who *doesn't* use bundler
<drbrain> I don't
<drbrain> well, I have to for work, but I avoid it otherwise
<tubbo> ah
<tubbo> well but i mean, what rubyist doesn't have it at least installed
<tubbo> like Rake...I don't use Rake for every project but it comes *with* Ruby
<tubbo> drbrain: do you need rubygems 2 to install gems with ruby 2 though?
<drbrain> you can downgrade
<drbrain> gem update --system=1.8.25
<tubbo> oh cool
<tubbo> i didn't know you could downgrade
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<tubbo> i just blew away the .ruby-version, installed Bundler with rubygems 1.8, rebuilt the .ruby-version with rbenv, and now i'm `bundle install`ing
<tubbo> so we'll see if that lets me run ruby programs again
<tubbo> (in 2.0)
<tubbo> got kinda caught in a paradox there :)
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<tubbo> drbrain: thank you for all your help, i just needed to install bundler 1.3 *first*
<drbrain> ah
<drbrain> I wonder what was going on then
<drbrain> that type of error indicates something is very wrong with installation
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<tubbo> drbrain: i was in a paradox, i hadn't updated bundler to 1.3 and installed RubyGems w/ruby-build so it never checked/cared about what Bundler version i had
<tubbo> which is why i was saying had ruby-build just updated bundler before doing all that stuff (since, if you're using Bundler, you need at least 1.3 to use rubygems 2.0), or at least had a --using-bundler flag i could use
<tubbo> i wouldn't have run into this issue
<tubbo> but i guess enough people refuse to use Bundler that it would be imposing on them
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