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<marz>
Is there an existing utility that will allow me to like map my database tables to spreadsheet so that I can easily populate the spreadsheet and apply it to my db?
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<Sellow>
Should I add a uniqueness validation on top of having a unique index for the table in my db?
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<dostoyevsky>
I have a def in a module that I can list with module.instance_methods(false) but not call via module.method_name ? It's saying: NoMethodError ...
<adam12>
dostoyevsky: module.method_name is actually a "class" method call, since module has no instance (but when mixed in to a class, it can have an instance).
<adam12>
dostoyevsky: If you never mixin the module, you can always just def self.method_name. If you mixin the module and want to call it both ways, module_function :method_name
<dostoyevsky>
adam12: `m.instance_methods(false).each {|s| m.send(s) }' <- throws a NoMethodError ... so maybe I need to instantiate the module first?
<dostoyevsky>
Yeah, it's probably meant as a mixin and will be used in a class somewhere
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<rigid>
hi, i'm completely new to ruby and actually come from #jekyll
<rigid>
i'm having trouble finding documentation about ruby behaviour that converts timestamps like "HH:MM:SS.mmm" to float
<rigid>
Does anyone know? I'm not sure but I think it's not jekyll specific
<rigid>
in jekyll, I define (in yaml) "time: 00:00:05.500" (without quotes, so no string). That gets converted to float "5.5" somewhere, and my best guess is that it's ruby
<rigid>
i actually want to define it as string (like "time: '00:00:05.500'") and do the conversion manually, but can't find a way to do that. I always end up converting to integer (so "0" in this case)
<phaul>
xco: nice writeup.
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<phaul>
one point that was slightly neboulus is that when the method lookup fails, the process is re-started from the bottom of the ancestor chain this time looking for method_missing. You basically said method_missing can be overriden, but how that overriding works can be confusing as we already reached the top of the class hierarchy with the original method name
<adam12>
rigid: That's likely Psych or YAML doing the conversion, not Ruby... but I'm guessing.
<adam12>
rigid: YAML is an alias for Psych, the default YAML parsing library
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<rigid>
ah, thank you. yep, just tried with irb ... ruby throws errros on "foo = 00:00:05.000"
* rigid
is going further down the rabbit hole
<dostoyevsky>
xco: Maybe also mention that the delegation pattern implements the proxy pattern... which is what I mostly use method_missing for
<adam12>
Maybe it's not YAML/Psych, but actually Jekyll?
<phaul>
xco: Also it's really nitpick, and I don't think it's important there, but when you state "when an object calls a method, starting from the objectâs class " you neglect prepended modules and singleton classes
<xco>
phaul "the process is re-started from the bottom of the ancestor chain this time looking for method_missing." thanks. i thought of this but wasn't entirely sure. but it makes sense to think that once it reaches method_missing, the process restarts to find if method_missing is over written, if not, call the default behaviour of method missing correct?
<rigid>
well, not so awesome actually since there probably is no way to convert it manually from a string to float
<xco>
phaul "you neglect prepended modules and singleton classes" yeah i stated that i'm omitting that for brevity in the 3rd paragraph
<phaul>
xco, I missed that, I see it now. Good writeup, /me likes
<xco>
dostoyevsky oh. so how i delegated method is called the proxy pattern? i didn't know it had a name :D
<xco>
phaul thanks! :D
<xco>
phaul i publicly stated that i'll be wrting 52 blogs posts before the end of 2021 so i'll be posting more articles for reviews :D only when you have time you can look.. would appreciate it
<xco>
btw. Ruby 3 added Hash#except and Rails's ActiveSupport also has Hash#except. i wonder if it'd make sense to benchmark both methods in a way that'll be fair for Rail's Hash#except
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<mwlang>
rigid: do you have control of how that timestamp is written to the yaml file? If so, I’d change the formatting on output so it’s correctly parsed when loaded.
<rigid>
mwlang: yeah i have some control (it's liquid syntax in jekyll), but parsing is not actually the problem. The problem is, that I need the string and the float. But I just get the float. I thought about using the string and converting it to float manually, but that is impossible afais.
<rigid>
i currently plan to just add the string manually, like 'time: 00:00:05.500' and 'time_string: "00:00:05.500"' as a workaround
<rigid>
not pretty but should work
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<mwlang>
rigid: The problem at the moment is YAML is not parsing it as a time or timestamp of any sort as-is. But if you write it out to file correctly, then it’ll be loaded as a Time object, from which you can then get both String and Float representations.
<mwlang>
The yaml parser is discarding the “00:00:0” part and then turning “05.500” into 5.5 Float, which is definitely not what you wanted.
<rigid>
hm, i think that's not possible without writing a jekyll plugin
<rigid>
mwlang: oh no, it seems like it's doing it right as "00:28:16.600" correctly gets converted to 1696.6
<mwlang>
I hear you. I think I’d favor just storing a float then and not try to deal with Time objects…or if you need it, doint Time.at on that float and just using the hours, minutes, seconds of the resulting Time.
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<riceandbeans>
What's wrong with 5..10 do |h| puts h end ?
<adam12>
riceandbeans: Possibly ambiguous range.
<adam12>
Plus no iterator.
<adam12>
(5..10).each
<adam12>
or 5.upto(10)
<riceandbeans>
ah, had to add .each
<riceandbeans>
Sorry, Ruby specifics of implementations slip my mind sometimes, I largely do other languages at the moment
<havenwood>
riceandbeans: Now I'm curious what you're doing from 5 to 10!
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<riceandbeans>
You don't even want to know
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<phaul>
do .. end is syyntax for the block argument of a _method_. 5..10 is not a method, it's a constant literal for a range.
<phaul>
5.upto(10) do .. end. here upto is the method called on 5 taking 10 as a positional argument, and the block as the block argument
<phaul>
(5..10) each do .. end; here each is called on the range 5..10, taking no positional arguments and taking the do end as the block argument
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<phaul>
it's all just methods, and objects that are receivers for methods.
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<mwlang>
Where is the best place(s) for a company to advertise job openings to attract the best Ruby applicants?
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<havenwood>
Feel free to post here. The Ruby Discourse and Rails Slack also have jobs channels.
<havenwood>
mwlang: Is it a remote or geo-specific position?
<mwlang>
It’s open to remote as well as geo-specific if the candidate is interested in that. https://g.co/kgs/XXdmWA
<havenwood>
Open source and remote? Awesome.
<mwlang>
yes! :-)
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<adam12>
mwlang: Interesting that it's PST but with a NC headquarters. I would of expected EST.
<mwlang>
adam12: I’m EST, and it hasn’t been an issue at all to the mostly Portland-based team members. HQ is in San Francisco, but has little bearing on our team.
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<adam12>
mwlang: Nice.
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<apotheon>
I found the catch for working at New Relic on Ruby stuff: being on call.
<mwlang>
apotheon: not true for Agent teams
<mwlang>
That’s all on infrastructure (DevOps) these days.
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<c355e3b>
I'm getting flashbacks to some really unfun times in my life
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<mwlang>
c355e3b: why’s that?
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<c355e3b>
I had to use NewRelic as a customer on some really stressful outages
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<mwlang>
c355e3b: Ah. I gather it didn’t make the root cause of the outages obvious?
<c355e3b>
Correct.
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<mwlang>
If there was one thing the New Relic integration could’ve/should’ve done back then that would’ve made your life better during those outages, what would it have been?
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