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<mikhael_k33hl> How do I catch the thread.kill so that I can do something before the thread exits?
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<harrycs> Hi all, I'm building my first gem. It works correctly but it keeps throwing a strange warning when I run it in IRB. Anyone have any idea how to prevent this? It looks like it normally occurs from name collisions but I'm not sure why any name collisions would be happening..
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<harrycs> `/home/harry/.rbenv/versions/2.4.2/lib/ruby/gems/2.4.0/gems/strigil-0.1.0/lib/strigil.rb:10: warning: toplevel constant StrigilClient referenced by Strigil::StrigilClient`
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<havenwood> harrycs: Show the Strigil::StrigilClient code?
<havenwood> harrycs: Do you have both a StrigilClient that you're showing us and a Strigil::StrigilClient intentionally? I don't know the domain, but that doesn't seem right.
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<harrycs> havenwood: here, check out the repo: https://github.com/stebbins/strigil/tree/gemify
<harrycs> thanks for taking a look!
<havenwood> harrycs: The idiomatic gem structure is to have a lib/ dir then inside it a strigil/ dir.
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<harrycs> Ah!
<havenwood> harrycs: Then inside the strigil/ dir you'd have client.rb, comment_parser.rb, and comment.rb, and comments.rb.
<harrycs> let me give that a shot havenwood
<havenwood> harrycs: Then namespace each of those under Strigil::.
<havenwood> harrycs: The namespace should mirror the file/dir names.
<havenwood> harrycs: Strigil::Client, etc.
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<harrycs> got it working - thanks again havenwood
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<harrycs> Hi all, I just finished creating a gem for scraping a reddit user's history into a JSON file and I thought I'd share it: https://github.com/stebbins/strigil
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<aaronm04> harrycs: doesn't Reddit already have a JSON endpoint?
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<harrycs> aaronm04: Yes! But, you can only retrieve the last 100 comments for a particular user.
<aaronm04> no pagination option?
<harrycs> I don't believe so
<aaronm04> I seem to remember using that in the past
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<aaronm04> search for 'before' and 'after' in, for example, https://www.reddit.com/user/GallowBoob.json
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<aaronm04> harrycs: <aaronm04> search for 'before' and 'after' in, for example, https://www.reddit.com/user/GallowBoob.json
<aaronm04> I think you can add ?before=<the_id> to paginate
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<harrycs> sorry aarongodin i dc'd, did you respond? last thing I saw was me saying I didn't think there was a pagination option
<aaronm04> harrycs: you can paginate with the "before" and "after" keys in the JSON: for example, the next page of https://www.reddit.com/user/GallowBoob.json is https://www.reddit.com/user/GallowBoob.json?before=t1_dwmn9ag
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<Janky> Hey guys, I have about a thousand text files that each have 33 lines of text in them. How can I output all of this on a csv where each file is a new row and each line in the original text is a column? Thank you.
<ellcs> @Janky: are those files located in the same directory?
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<Janky> yes
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<Janky> @ellcs yes
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<ellcs> @Janky: Have a look at Dir to list all files in your directory. - https://ruby-doc.org/core-2.2.2/Dir.html
<ellcs> Open your files with File::open - https://ruby-doc.org/core-2.2.2/File.html#method-c-open
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<Janky> thank you
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<JJonah> I am converting an application to a gem, and so I need to move the dependencies in my Gemfile into gemspec. Curious if there are any tools that do this automatically?
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<havenwood> I'm happy we'll not be seeing the mkmf/ruby-dev question over and over anymore after this commit: https://github.com/ruby/ruby/commit/f961bad19172b86158cc4c70bd3b2b5a26cd7ea8
<havenwood> :-)
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<havenwood> JJonah: I don't know of a tool that does that but it should be fairly easy to write one.
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<havenwood> JJonah: You'd want the exact versions pinned in the Gemfile.lock, right?
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<havenwood> That seems far preferable to the versions in the Gemfile, since that'd effectively be a `bundle update`, ignoring the Gemfile.lock.
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<dminuoso> havenwood: Haha.
<dminuoso> havenwood: It just took 10 years for that change!
<dminuoso> But then again, I could have made that PR myself..
<dminuoso> havenwood: I just love the Japanese English: "You might have to install separate package for the [...]"
<dminuoso> and that weirdly placed comma :D
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<havenwood> dminuoso: Aye, we should have PRed it since dozens of folk ask it each year.
<havenwood> JJonah: Would you want all groups in the gemspec?
<havenwood> I guess it depends on how you're using the gem whether you'd want to leave some groups in the Gemfile. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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<JJonah> havenwood: yeah, that probably makes sense re: the lock. In my particular case, I think I'll just spend the 5minutes to do by hand now :). I just figured if there was a standard thing people did, I'd use that...
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<havenwood> JJonah: ruby -rbundler -e "puts Bundler.load.gems.map { |gem| \"s.add_runtime_dependency '#{gem.name}', '#{gem.version}'\" }"
<JJonah> havenwood: thanks
<havenwood> JJonah: you're welcome
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<raynold> ahh it's a wonderful day
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<gemini315> I can't seem to find #rubyonrails channel
<apeiros> it's literally #rubyonrails
<gemini315> that's exaclty what I entered but when I try to join, nothing happens
<dminuoso> gemini315: Check your status log. You need to be identified with NickServ in order to join the channel.
<dminuoso> ?rails
<ruby[bot]> Please join #RubyOnRails for Rails questions. You need to be identified with NickServ, see /msg NickServ HELP
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<gemini315> thanks, will try that
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<mikhael_k33hl> Using concurrent-ruby, when I call @pool.kill, docs says it'll call thread.kill to its threads, how do I handle that so my app could do something when that happens?
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<apeiros> they didn't state in the docs that it's a bad idea?
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<apeiros> Thread#kill is a last-resort option. it raises *anywhere* in your thread's code.
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<apeiros> if you can, add a proper way to shut down your workers
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<mikhael_k33hl> apeiros: So basically, my app rsyncs files, and I can't seem(probably just a noob) to implement how to stop the rsync process(running in a thread) when the app gets restarted by systemd.
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<hanmac> apeiros: the solution for javascript https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZcCUAvXUAAdjqQ.jpg
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<dminuoso> Beauty.
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<dminuoso> Always great to see that this equality breaks substitution and transitivity.
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<dminuoso> With NaN reflexivity is thrown out too.
<dminuoso> At least its symmetric =)
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<hays> is there a guide on indenting for Ruby that is generally followed? curious if 2 spaces, 3 spaces, 4 spaces is standard
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<dminuoso> hays: 2 spaces is the common convention.
<dminuoso> hays: but go with whatever you prefer
<dminuoso> as long as its consistent throughout your code base
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<weaksauce> i like 2 for all languages
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<dminuoso> weaksauce: Ive shifted my preference to 4 since I started majorly using a whitespace sensitive language.
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<weaksauce> i avoid whitespace sensitive languages like the plague
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<dminuoso> weaksauce: I found that it's not an issue at all. :)
<dminuoso> weaksauce: 4 months and counting, not a single whitespace related issue at all so far.
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<weaksauce> i just hate it. irrationally or not
<dminuoso> Fair enoough.
<weaksauce> it's like stubbing my toe to me.
<dminuoso> weaksauce: well I like my code tidy and organized anyway.
<dminuoso> weaksauce: and less brackets/do/end notation means less noise.. so it leads to more concise code
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<weaksauce> i like my code to be thrown through an autoformatter and that tends to show me errors in indentation right away
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<dminuoso> weaksauce: Well I have customized formatting rules too. :)
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<hays> this always seems counterintuitive . is there another way to do this? [0,1].include? value
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<baweaver> value == 1 || value == 0
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<al2o3-cr> value.between?(0,1)
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<xenulv> ::waves::
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<havenwood> hays: ActiveSupport has: value.in? [1, 2]
<havenwood> require 'active_support/core_ext/object/inclusion'
<hays> is that rails?
<havenwood> hays: Yes, it's Rails. You can cherry pick it, but the idiomatic way is just: [0, 1].include? value
<hays> alright, I'll just do it that way.
<hays> it just seems backwards to me
<hays> perhaps not in japanese hehe
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<hays> cool. I'm reluctant to not be idiomatic. gotta be nice to other Ruby developers
<hays> so even if I think its stupid I'll just go along with the flow
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<miah> activesupport doesn't require rails (its dep list isnt too bad)
<phaul> to me it makes sense to put the incusion check as an instance method to the rangie, collectionie type object
<phaul> rather then every object
<havenwood> phaul: #in? reverses the receiver and argument compared to #include?
<havenwood> phaul: object.in?(collection) versus collection.include?(object)
<havenwood> phaul: Or did you mean you think #include? makes more sense than #in? rather?
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<phaul> yes that's what I tried to say
<havenwood> ah, gotcha
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<hays> for me it follows how i might say it in english, "Hey, is 3 in [3,1,4,1,5,9] ?"
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<phaul> fair enough, this sounds like DSL way of thinking object oriented way of thinking, both have their merits
<phaul> *versus* ^
<hays> yeah, and how important is the idea of inclusion in a set
<hays> in python, they actually have a language construct for this "in"
<hays> hmm maybe I take that back--my python is rusty
<hays> no, that's right
<hays> the implementation of the test for inclusion does belong in the container though, I agree with that
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<dminuoso> phaul: Or maybe make it a combinator instead?
<dminuoso> elem[5, [1,2,3,4,5]]
<dminuoso> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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<phaul> combinator as in parser combinators?
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<dminuoso> phaul: a combinator is just a more practical term for "higher order function"
<phaul> oh I see
<dminuoso> Usually you'd refer to small simple but useful functions that somehow let you compose larger things from as combinator.
<dminuoso> You can even go to the extreme.
<dminuoso> Given these two:
<dminuoso> k = -> x, y { x }.curry
<dminuoso> s = -> x, y, z { x[z[y[z]]] }.curry
<dminuoso> You can construct *any* program whatsoever.
<phaul> is this lambda calc?
<hays> *bleat*baaahhhh*
<dminuoso> phaul: its kind of related yes.
<dminuoso> phaul: usually youd include a third combinator `i = -> x { x }` and the system is called "SKI combinator calculus"
<dminuoso> Say thanks to Moses Schönfinkel. ;)
<phaul> dminuoso: have you seen the programming with nothing (yt)? I guess you have... that was FUN!!
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<hays> was it alonzo church that came up with the functional computational model
<hays> basically equivalent to a turing machine
<hays> well, not just basically
<dminuoso> phaul: No. But from a quick glance it just looks like applied ULC
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<dminuoso> phaul: SKI combinator calculus is even more amazing, because you dont even need lambda calculus to describe turing-machine capable processing.
<imode> term rewriting is even better
<imode> rule tables!
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<imode> ULC is just a specific type of term rewriting system, which is just a glorified delimited string rewriting system, which is equivalent to a post canonical system with a specified ruleset, which is a string rewriting system.
<dminuoso> imode: Im not familiar with that yet. Just started diving into formal semantics, and the properties of ULC are great enough to prove some intereting things already.
<imode> once you get to post systems, you'll never look back.
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<dminuoso> imode: wait a second.. this looks exactly like what Im doing right now.
<dminuoso> imode: how is this different from an evaluation relation?
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<imode> define evaluation relation?
<imode> something like a(b) = b(a)?
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<imode> it's not that different at all.
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<dminuoso> imode: I mean it in the sense of Pierce's TaPL
<imode> can you give me an example of an evaluation relation?
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<dminuoso> imode: So it'd be a set of rules that look like: `pred 0 -> 0`
<dminuoso> (rules could have premises too)
<dminuoso> Most of this is just groundwork for type inference from what I can tell so far.
<imode> yeah a set of rewrite rules.
<imode> and `pred s(n) -> n`
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<imode> you build up type inference from a set of untyped rewrite rules.
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<dminuoso> imode: Right. Though this quickly takes off beyond term rewriting rules.
<dminuoso> Havent done all excercises for this yet, so I wont read on. :)
<imode> it doesn't _really_, which is cool. you can build a full type system in an untyped rewriting system like this.
<imode> which is just a string rewriting system with a few wildcard rules...
<imode> and some delimiters.
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<imode> hilbert would be proud. :P
<dminuoso> Mmm. Alright well Ill see. :)
<dminuoso> I mean I have looked at HM before and I know how to read it, so I know what the end result will be..
<dminuoso> But arriving at it and implementing it is something else.
<dminuoso> And proving things about it.
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