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<hays> if i want to basically decorate a function or method in ruby what is the right way to do this
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<hays> maybe i need yield
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<baweaver> hays: what's the use case?
<hays> i've got a few functions that are basically identical except for one line right in the middle
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<hays> but the thing in the middle is different enough that it kinda needs a function, not just passing in a variable or something
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<baweaver> Got an example?
<hays> sorry, not at hand. noodling on a work issue
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<baweaver> Mostly just pass a block and yield
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<phaul> codegolf. I need to make this 6 chars shorter... D=->i{r=->x{x.map{|j|('+'*(2*j+1)).center 2*i}};['+'*i,r[0...i],r[(i-1).downto 0]]*"\n"} any hints?
<phaul> >> D=->i{r=->x{x.map{|j|('+'*(2*j+1)).center 2*i}};['+'*i,r[0...i],r[(i-1).downto 0]]*"\n"}; D[5]
<ruby[bot]> phaul: # => "+++++\n + \n +++ \n +++++ \n +++++++ \n+++++++++ \n+++++++++ \n +++++++ \n +++++ ...check link for more (https://eval.in/992200)
<phaul> >> D=->i{r=->x{x.map{|j|('+'*(2*j+1)).center 2*i}};['+'*i,r[0...i],r[(i-1).downto 0]]*"\n"}; print D[5]
<ruby[bot]> phaul: # => +++++ ...check link for more (https://eval.in/992201)
<phaul> sigh. how do you print lines with eval.in?
<phaul> oh it did second time .. nm
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<basic> when i instance_eval, i can't seem to have the normal, method="something" behaviour
<basic> but when i do it in pry, it works, can somebody explain how that happens?
<apeiros> basic: show some code?
<apeiros> note that `method=` always requires a receiver, otherwise it's just local variable assignment.
<basic> i have a method "variants(=)" on an object, when will variants= actually generate a local var
<apeiros> (everywhere, not just in instance_eval)
<basic> apeiros: but, when will it become a local var? that does not happen via method call, does it
<basic> unfortunately the code snipped alone would not work
<apeiros> it does. always and everywhere.
<apeiros> `foo = val` *always* is local variable assignment
<apeiros> `receiver.foo = val` is *always* method call
<basic> hm.. but then why does sometimes work and sometimes not?
<apeiros> as said, show some code. I'm pretty sure you're misunderstanding what's going on.
<basic> okay, trying to get a small snipped une second
<apeiros> 👍🏻
<basic> eh?
<basic> well, the code does not do what i wont, so i supposed you're right..
<basic> in pry it works, i guess because pry does something differently
<apeiros> "eh?" ?
<basic> your utf8 symbols, i couldn't read them
<apeiros> it's a "thumbs up"
<basic> i see, what font am i missing, h
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<apeiros> hm, actually I don't know how osx handles this. I think it's a kind of fallback system, since the emoji display the same for most (all?) fonts
<basic> i really don't understand how ruby distinguish
<basic> those 2
<apeiros> method= vs. lvar assignment?
<basic> apeiros: apeiros yes
<apeiros> simple, as I said: without a reciver -> always lvar; with receiver -> always method
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<basic> im creating a project that is very declarative
<basic> it has like.. rake files, which only contain like "config {...}"
<apeiros> there is a limited number of methods which you can only ever invoke with an explicit receiver: symbolic methods (+, -, <, etc.), methods using keyword names (class, def, etc.) and methods ending in "="
<basic> and what i was trying to do is "variants=["a","b","c"];config {}"
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<basic> and i figured it would call the self.variants= method
<basic> (the config file would look much more like a config file that way)
<apeiros> one way dsl's deal with that is by not having a foo= method, but double-using foo for assignment and reading:
<apeiros> `def variants(*value); @variants = value.first unless value.empty?; @variants; end`
<apeiros> and then `variants ["a", "b", "c"]` to set, just `variants` to read
<basic> yeah i just came up with that, too :D, kinda
<basic> i just created add_variant
<apeiros> another way is to resort to javaism: `set_variants ["a", "b", "c"]`
* basic cries because he is a javaist
<apeiros> and depending on what you do - might misunderstand your idea, though:
<apeiros> config variants: ["a", "b", "c"] do …
<basic> that is the ugliest thing ruby has bleh.
<basic> that would look pretty, having a hash
<basic> but for now im happy with add_variant
<basic> thanks apeiros
<apeiros> yw
<phaul> there is also config { |c| c.variant = ... } I think rails does that..
<basic> thats what i am doing now
<basic> and i decided it sucks
<apeiros> phaul: right
<basic> rule of thumb is now, everything is a method without having a =
<basic> well, everything is a method is always true i guess
<apeiros> I pondered to mention it, but I thought variants had a different "scope" than the config
<apeiros> I should have anyways, after all, I don't know exactly what basic is doing :)
<apeiros> basic: huh? no, not everything is a method, far from it.
<basic> Config.instance_eval "variants = []; config {...}"
<basic> that is kinda like it is
<basic> apeiros: well i mean, if you observe on object from the outside.. then everything it has is methods
<apeiros> ah
<basic> i am not good in describing things
<apeiros> yes, from the outside, an object is its value and its methods
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<basic> but what else would there b in ruby?
<basic> lvars, instance vars, procs doesnt it some up really nicely?
<apeiros> codewise? there's variables, there's operators, there's keywords, there's flow control
<basic> yeah i guess
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<farview> I've stumbled upon something I can't make sense of with Regexp#match, admittedly on an old version (2.3.1). https://pastebin.com/CFk4S12v The String shouldn't match the Regexp, but why does adding an extra capture group cause the second example to hang?
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<farview> Oh. It's "catastrophic backtracking". The extra character in the line must be causing it to backtrack through all the possibilities.
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<apeiros> farview: there's 8*10*51*51*36*26 ways this can match
<apeiros> and yes, catastrophic backtracking is the term
<farview> Yeah, oops. Have been getting away with much worse than this for a long time, until "extra" stuff appeared on the lines last night.
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<gizmore> irc users have dropped from 1000 to 700.... ruby dead?
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<sagax> 1000 to 700, uff
<baweaver> Not really
<baweaver> "Is (insert language here) dead?" is a really silly question
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<gizmore> just trolling along
<baweaver> Y'know there's a special command ops have for trolling
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<gizmore> also i am waiting for ruby to implement type hinting
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<gizmore> active record sucks?
<baweaver> gizmore: I don't mind if you have constructive criticisms or questions, but outright trolling is a good way to get a time out.
<baweaver> 3.x is rumored to be working with type hinting according to Matz. Sounded like a lot of work around VS Code and language server, though I know very little about either
<gizmore> nah... just mentioning irc has low usercount lately.... and activerecord sucks? was a legit question
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<gizmore> i like type hinting in php... if ruby got it, it would be awe
<Zarthus> i'm just going to cite this here
<Zarthus> irc.freenode.#ruby.weechatlog:2018-03-24 21:54:47 gizmore why does ruby does not offer type hinting?
<Zarthus> irc.freenode.#ruby.weechatlog:2018-03-24 22:00:00 gizmore i went from php to ruby and back
<Zarthus> irc.freenode.#ruby.weechatlog:2018-03-24 21:59:38 gizmore i love php and type hinting
<Zarthus> irc.freenode.#ruby.weechatlog:2018-03-24 21:59:28 gizmore jhass: yeah, i am just trolling atm, until it's there
<Zarthus> repeating questions over and over again is futile.
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<gizmore> so is type hinting already implemented? ... sorry to repeat this question
<baweaver> !troll gizmore
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* apeiros thinks 1000 to 700 is mostly due to slack - at least the timing matches
<baweaver> Well, as far as Ruby fun: https://github.com/baweaver/xf
<baweaver> I'll probably announce it later after I clean it up and get the version dep down to Ruby 2.3. Gemsmith imposes 2.5.1 which is quite annoying
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<Zarthus> your readme is really resourceful
<Zarthus> it covers just about everything, even what is assumed to be basic knowledge for most developers.
<baweaver> You should see how much I wrote on Qo
<baweaver> Gemsmith is good, it just enforces 2.5.x at the moment
<baweaver> So it autogenerates a ton of stuff for me which is nice.
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<Zarthus> yeah, it looks fancy
<Zarthus> that well prepared screencast is fancy too
<Zarthus> we should use asciicinema more often at work for documentation purposes too
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<phaul> can you paste a link of the screencast please? thank you
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<phaul> ty again
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