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<gr33n7007h>
Using open-uri I can retrieve the meta data using resp = open("http://www.example.com"); resp.meta How would I achieve this with net/http?
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<agent_white>
Evenin folks
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<bato>
'morning
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<bricker`LA>
Anybody who has setup HAProxy, can I enable the stats page only on the private IP of the server?
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<ponga>
can ruby 'switch' use object on when
<sevenseacat>
!try
<helpa>
Why don't you try it and find out for yourself?
<bricker`LA>
ponga: yes
<ponga>
yes!
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<sonofflynn>
Hi there, I'm using net/https to make requests to https websites. How can I make my request connect to a server even with an invalid cert? If it's invalid, I plan on catching it with rescue, and adding a flag that will let me know it was invalid, but I want the request made anyway.
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<sonofflynn>
The only way I saw it being done, was by adding the cert in to tell the script ahead of time it's ok, but this script will be running against tons of sites, so adding their certs in manually isn't an option
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<sonofflynn>
and they will never be the same site twice (likely)
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<agent_white>
Well you aren't from Earth. Welcome to Earth.
<ponga>
ah...
<ponga>
what lang do you love then agent_white
<ponga>
rhetorical question anyway
<ponga>
we are in #ruby
<agent_white>
sonofflynn: Of course. Again, look at the warning above mentioning the security risks and use at your own risk.
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<agent_white>
ponga: I love Ruby. And I love C and C++.
<sonofflynn>
yup, it won't really apply in this case
<ponga>
agent_white i don't understand you
<ponga>
you love ruby AND c?
<sonofflynn>
writing a script that connects to a large number of websites and screenshots them, and grabs the source, for formatting into a report later
<ponga>
i mean c++
<agent_white>
ponga: Yep. C AND C++.
<sonofflynn>
so, not submitting any login data, therefore I shouldn't need to care about that
<agent_white>
sonofflynn: Ah good deal. Then you should be fine as long as you know the sites you're hitting.
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<sonofflynn>
yeah
<agent_white>
sonofflynn: Let me know if that works for you, I'm interested to tsee.
<sonofflynn>
the urls are "approved"
<sonofflynn>
it should
<agent_white>
:D
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<agent_white>
I hope so. Otherwise I might cry.
<sonofflynn>
ha
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<agent_white>
But srsly let me know.
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<dopie>
hey all
<dopie>
is there a way for me to get 2 random hash values???
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<dopie>
i have cards - { ace: 1, two: 2, three: 3, four: 4 }
<dopie>
how do i do it to get only 2 random cards from the hash
<godd2>
the keys method returns an array of the keys of the hash, and the sample(n) method on an array returns n elements of an array. then just use the array returned by sample to get the values
<dopie>
Radar well atleast im trying to get with the basics here
<Radar>
join it into a string
<dopie>
I created a game class
<Radar>
dopie: I appreciate it
<dopie>
and i was thinking that i should create a cards module
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<dopie>
to keep that seperated from the game
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<godd2>
Your program might suffer from object bloat if you do that
<godd2>
but that might be a lesson you have to learn through practice ;)
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<strelok>
how do i install the curses gem on windows
<strelok>
it says curses.h not found but i dont know where to put it where it can find it
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<strelok>
or how to set the path when installing the gem
<godd2>
`gem install curses` ?
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<strelok>
thats what i did but it doenst install it
<strelok>
it gives an error about curses.h missing
<strelok>
which i have from pdcurses but i dont know where to place it
<strelok>
where ruby gems can find it
<strelok>
on linux it finds it in /usr/lib but on windows i have no idea
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<godd2>
can you copy paste the entire error output to a gist?
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<shvelo>
shevy, good morning
<strelok>
checking for curses.h... no
<strelok>
*** extconf.rb failed ***
<strelok>
libraries and/or headers. Check the mkmf.log file for more details. You may
<strelok>
need configuration options.
<strelok>
Could not create Makefile due to some reason, probably lack of necessary
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<almatras>
Does somebody know some nice commands to get an impression what on my linux machine uses ruby? I'am thinking about deinstalling the existing 1.8.7, because another app, which I'am going to install comes with an embedded ruby 2.0
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<godd2>
in the future strelok copy it to a gist if it's >3 lines: http://gist.github.com
<godd2>
Do you have the devkit installed?
<strelok>
yes
<strelok>
installing other gems works just fine
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<strelok>
it just needs the curses library but i dont know how to make it find it
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<godd2>
do you know the location of your curses.h file?
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<strelok>
yeah
<strelok>
im trying a different gem called ncurses-ffi
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<strelok>
ffi-ncurses* rather
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<godd2>
what version of ruby are you using?
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<strelok>
2.0
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<godd2>
try something for me
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<godd2>
go into irb and require 'curses'
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<godd2>
does it say true?
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<godd2>
because curses wasn't removed from the standard library until 2.1.0
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<godd2>
so you should still be able to require it in a fresh version of 2.0.0
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<Noob101>
hello
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<strelok>
ok i figured out what was wrong
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<strelok>
it uses different commands than the normal version of curses
<strelok>
so it was just my code
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<Noob101>
For chapter 4 "An Example to Help You Grow"(All the way at the bottom of the page), I am confused when it says that "..Net::HTTP refers to the library we loaded..", is the library Net::HTTP? Can someone please explain what all of this does? URL: http://mislav.uniqpath.com/poignant-guide/book/chapter-3.html
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<godd2>
Net::HTTP is a class
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<agent_white>
Noob101: Yes. It is.
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<agent_white>
Noob101: `require 'shoes'` loads the 'shoes' library... etc.
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<Noob101>
agent_white: I am very confused, did you check out the URL?
<godd2>
it's a class that "understands" urls and http requests.
<agent_white>
Noob101: I have read the book, and am looking at the portion of the page that you are not specifically pointing to,.
<godd2>
in the example given, it's grabbing a web page, looking at the html of that page, and printing out the contents of the "body" tag
<agent_white>
Noob101: Meaning, if you mention the portion of the page you need help with, you gain more help.
<Noob101>
agent_white: I said for chapter 4 "An Example to Help You Grow"(All the way at the bottom of the page), I am confused when it says that "..Net::HTTP refers to the library we loaded..", is the library Net::HTTP? Can someone please explain what all of this does? URL: http://mislav.uniqpath.com/poignant-guide/book/chapter-3.html
<agent_white>
Noob101: `require` is akin to `#include` in C++. Look up "requiring libraries in programming" or something.
<agent_white>
Noob101: I said "Yes. It does."
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<Noob101>
agent_white: Sorry, I wanted to show you that I did say where the section was.
<agent_white>
Noob101: No worries!
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<godd2>
Is your question answered Noob101 or did you have more?
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<agent_white>
Noob101: Just think... if they said the library is "somethingsomething"... then... hmm... how do I load a library in Ruby?
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<agent_white>
Google "how to load a library in Ruby", and you have your answer.
<Noob101>
godd2: agent_white Ok let's start small please. What is a library?
<agent_white>
Noob101: If you have to ask that question though, it seems like you already knew. But... anyways... google it.
<sevenseacat>
lol
<agent_white>
Noob101: Google it.
<Noob101>
I am looking on wikipedia and it says "In computer science, a library is a collection of implementations of behavior, written in terms of a language, that has a well-defined interface by which the behavior is invoked."
<agent_white>
Noob101: Yes. That is it. So what's your question?
<agent_white>
I need to stop feeding trolls.
<agent_white>
They've been fed.
<Noob101>
I don't understand that really. I don't understand "a collection of implementations of a behavior" and "well-defined interface by which the behavior is invoked."
<godd2>
Noob101: a library is just a bunch of Ruby code
<agent_white>
Noob101: Go avast and learn what IRC is, come back with your knowledge and in exchange I will reveal to you the secrets of libraries.
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<Noob101>
agent_white: Please, I don't want your help no more. Thank you for the assistance, I appreicate it.
<sevenseacat>
agent_white: you win!
<Noob101>
godd2: sorry, a library is just a bunch of ruby code. Alrighty.
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<agent_white>
Noob101: PLease, I don't want your ridiculous questions no more. Thank you for the incompetence, I do not appreciate it.
<godd2>
Noob101: dont mind agent_white. Is Ruby your first programming language?
<Noob101>
godd2: I am trying to self teach myself but some people can be assholes
<Noob101>
godd2: I appreciate your generosity. It's kindly accepted and appreciated.
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<godd2>
I personally don't like the poignant guide to ruby.
<Noob101>
godd2: Oh ok, someone preferred me to read it.
<Noob101>
godd2: I am learning a little but programming can be hard to me so I am grateful to be able to understand things.
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<sevenseacat>
i didnt like it either, it was too whimsical and silly and i didnt find it actually educational
<godd2>
there are plenty of tutorials, guides, and videos for learning programming and ruby
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<godd2>
I learned most of the basics of ruby from lynda.com tutorial videos
<godd2>
but I'm a visual learner
<sevenseacat>
i learnt from rails tutorials :D
<Noob101>
godd2: I'll try that right now, I think that I am a visual learner too but can you still help me understand this example in the book or would you prefer not to?
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<godd2>
I mean I would, but I don't think you're quite ready for an explanation of a block yet
<Noob101>
godd2: http://goo.gl/Xg2qpo 4.An Example to Help You Grow, Net::HTTP etc
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<Noob101>
godd2: I know what a block is I think
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<godd2>
without going too deep, all you should know from that example is that it's printing some text. what text is it printing? the text from the file it grabbed.
<Noob101>
godd2: A block start and end with curly braces and it has code in between right? Is that it?
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<Noob101>
godd2: Oh sorry, continue.
<godd2>
I think the poignant guide is way better for people who already have a language under their belt.
<Noob101>
godd2: Oh ok, sorry.
<Noob101>
godd2: So the example is printing the text file, interesting.
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<Noob101>
godd2: print( http.get( '/en/about/license.txt' ).body ) This is the third line of code from the example, what does .body do?
<Noob101>
Are these videos free for learning ruby, I am not sure. http://goo.gl/RzpHgq
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<godd2>
lynda.com lets you watch some of the videos in a course for free, but you have to subscribe to watch all of them, but you can usually find a torrent of a whole set for a given course
<Noob101>
godd2: Once I subscribe, can I unsubscribe?
<godd2>
no, it is a blood bond permanently tying you to the website until death
<godd2>
jk, but I don't understand your question
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<Noob101>
godd2: You have to subscribe to watch all the videos right? So can't I subscribe watch all videos then unsubscribe?
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<godd2>
yes you can, but the subscription ends at the end of a pay period anyway. you have to pay for the subscription
<quazimodo>
so I'm having this amazing issue here.
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<quazimodo>
oh maybe I'll ask it in rubygems frist
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<Noob101>
godd2: Wait, do I have to pay at first for a subscription or do I get like a free trial? You know what, I guess I'll download UTorrent and download them.
<Noob101>
godd2: I was trying to avoid downloading but what the hell, why not.
<sevenseacat>
:/
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<godd2>
the free vids are available to anyone even if you're not logged in. there is no trail period
<godd2>
trial*
<Noob101>
godd2: Only some are free, some are locked.
<godd2>
that is correct.
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<Noob101>
godd2: I am about to download UTorrent. My question is, when I download files or videos, how do I know they're not virus free?
<godd2>
You don't. That is a risk of downloading files from people you don't know.
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<godd2>
It's also a risk from downloading files from people you DO know, so good luck with downloading things at all
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<godd2>
although most people mitigate against the effects of viruses by using antivirus software. but that is outside the scope of a ruby discussion.
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<Noob101>
godd2: you're right but I am just trying to watch videos to learn ruby. You don't like the book and you told me you learned by lynda.com. I don't want to buy so I don't know.
<jason_rad>
Quick question.. Trying to run a system command through a double quoted string.. need a little help
<godd2>
I recommended the lynda videos. I don't tell people what to do :P
<Noob101>
godd2: I know. I'll just keep reading the book but thanks for the help.
<jason_rad>
how do I get the system command to escape the puts ?
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<jason_rad>
nm .. servers.each { |key, value| p "#{key} =" + `ssh #{value} -p #{$port} -l #{$user} '#{$cmd}'`} works
<godd2>
jason_rad: you'd need to have the back ticks inside curly braces for the interpolation to work
<jason_rad>
godd2: back ticks?
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<godd2>
the `
<godd2>
grave accent
<agent_white>
godd2: Don't feed the trolls.
<StephenA1>
anyone know of a way to “track” when a user assignment has changed on a issue?
<StephenA1>
(using api)
<godd2>
whatever you want to call it.
<godd2>
jesus agent_white is everyone who asks a question a troll?
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<jason_rad>
godd2: good to know.. thank you
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<agent_white>
godd2: Of course not. They aren't to those who are oblivious.
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<agent_white>
godd2: He/she has been here multiple times, asking questions which they obviously had insight into.
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<agent_white>
godd2: So. I am just letting you know. Choose to feed them if you want, though we prefer you don't.
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<godd2>
are you talking about noob or jason
<agent_white>
godd2: Noob.
<agent_white>
godd2: The username has to be a neon-sign for you alone, I would hope.
<agent_white>
Otherwise, god speed.
<godd2>
well if you knew he was a troll, then why did you answer his question?
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<agent_white>
godd2: I admit it. I like to feed them crackers until their tummy is full. Once it is, they can't eat anymore.
<agent_white>
By the time I fed him a couple, he showed him tummy was full.
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<agent_white>
s/him/his/
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<agent_white>
godd2: I fed him. Don't feed him anymore.
<godd2>
then don't expect me to take it on faith that someone is a troll just because you said so.
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<agent_white>
godd2: Not faith, common sense.
<agent_white>
That's OK though. We are here to learn, right
<agent_white>
?
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<godd2>
it isn't common sense to believe what you say just because you say it.
<agent_white>
godd2: His name is Noob101. And in an IRC channel.
<agent_white>
I'll let your thoughts drift that way. Should be good enough, despite any channel in IRC.
<agent_white>
Common sense. Not a channel. I may start one though.
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<godd2>
if that's your only evidence, its not sufficient.
<gr33n7007h>
now now play nice
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<agent_white>
godd2: Feed him if you want. I don't have any crackers left.
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<agent_white>
gr33n7007h: Okey doke. :/
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<quazimodo>
agent_orange
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<agent_white>
quazimodo: Don't you summon my cousin this way!
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<agent_white>
;)
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<Noob101>
godd2: Hi, are you still active?
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<godd2>
sure did you have another question?
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<Noob101>
godd2: Hm, not really but I want to go over the example since I got done with the page but I would like to tell you what I think each part means but you can tell me if my understanding is correct or not.
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<Noob101>
godd2: Does that sound good?
<godd2>
lemme open mirc so we don't pollute the channel
<godd2>
brb
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<Noob101>
godd2: Welcome back.
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<strelok>
hi
<strelok>
im having trouble with a rubygem
<strelok>
the libtcod gem specifically
<strelok>
it installs fine but when i try to use i get an error about the dll missing
<strelok>
and not missing
<strelok>
*its not missing
<strelok>
its some kind of problem with ffi
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<Noob101>
strelok: Hi there, can you help me out please?
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<wasamasa>
Noob101: why don't you tell the whole channel your question?
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<Noob101>
What is the difference between puts and print?
<toretore>
\n
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<arcsky>
Could not find rake-0.9.2 in any of the sources
<arcsky>
anyone know how i can solve that?
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<Burgestrand>
arcsky: it sounds like a bundler issue, but you need to provide some context if you expect somebody with no insight into your problem to solve it for you.
<Burgestrand>
arcsky: start by providing the full command/error you are experiencing! :)
<arcsky>
# bundle exec rake snorby:setup
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<Nowaker>
BalkM: ok, will do
<Burgestrand>
arcsky: do you have a `gem "rake"` in your Gemfile?
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<arcsky>
Burgestrand: where do i find the Gemfile ?
<arcsky>
locate Gemfile gives me alot
<Burgestrand>
arcsky: it's in the same folder you run your command in.
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<Burgestrand>
arcsky: at least if you followed the README.
<Burgestrand>
arcsky: did you run “bundle install” before you ran your command?
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<arcsky>
yep
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<Burgestrand>
arcsky: what does `bundle show rake` tell you?
<arcsky>
gem install bundler rails
<arcsky>
sec
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<arcsky>
gem install rake --version=0.9.2
<arcsky>
maybe i need
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<arcsky>
Could not find Platform-0.4.0 in any of the sources
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<joshua__>
Hey guys, in ruby can how I use regex/match for a while word, not characters. I want to match on the word 'worker' but not 'wo' for example
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<canton7>
joshua__, huh?
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<joshua__>
canton7: I want to match on the word 'worker' and do something if the case. But I don't want the characters 'wo' to match for example, has to be the whole word..
<olivier_bK>
i cant find a solution for this problem
<olivier_bK>
`translate_exception_class': incompatible character encodings: ASCII-8BIT and UTF-8 (Encoding::CompatibilityError)
<olivier_bK>
i added that juste after my string .encode("UTF-8")
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<olivier_bK>
but nothing
<Burgestrand>
olivier_bK: your original string does not have an encoding specified, but includes multibyte characters.
<joshua__>
nvm got it
<canton7>
joshua__, "word" defined as something surrounded by word boundaries?
<joshua__>
canton7: yes
<Burgestrand>
olivier_bK: as a result, those multibyte characters cannot be translated because ruby does not know what they represent. What is your string encoding originally_
<canton7>
\b\w+\b or something
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<joshua__>
canton7: I'm thinking if a =~ /\bworker\b/ but thats not working..
<canton7>
oh, you wanted to match a literal string 'worker'?
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<Nowaker>
BalkM: I grep'd the logs. looks like shoes4 is the only thing people use for ruby gui these days. https://github.com/shoes/shoes4
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<arcsky>
# bundle show rake
<arcsky>
Could not find open4-1.3.0 in any of the sources
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<joshua__>
hmm, man my ruby is so rusty. I have some strings like aws-foo-bar1, aws-foo-baz2, I want to match the strings who haev the whole word baz for example..
<joshua__>
I can split on '-' and grep but that matches all chars
<workmad3>
Hanmac: sorry... clear that "it's all just a big ball of wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff"
<Hanmac>
XDD
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<Hanmac>
workmad3: its more fun if you look how the actors of the Doctor are related to each other ;P like the 10th actor did marry the daugther of the 5th actor while she played the daugther of the 10th doctor ;D
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<Hanmac>
and as far as i know none doctorwho character is its own grandfather ... yet ;P
<olivier_bK>
do you know how i can resolve this error `translate_exception_class': incompatible character encodings: ASCII-8BIT and UTF-8 (Encoding::CompatibilityError)
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<alexherbo2>
havenwood: thanks
<havenwood>
olivier_bK: Only ever use UTF-8 and things encoded with UTF-8. :P
<havenwood>
dangerousdave: on line 39 the file is opened but not thereafter closed (only closes automatically with block syntax)
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<havenwood>
dangerousdave: instead you could: File#read
<dangerousdave>
havenwood, thanks!
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<dangerousdave>
olivier_bK, i don't understand
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<olivier_bK>
dangerousdave, what you dont understand
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<dangerousdave>
your gist
<olivier_bK>
i can insert a lot of params after few minute i get the error
<havenwood>
dangerousdave: for #subject and #description, i'd drop the `result` variable entirely, letting the if statement implicitly return from the method
<olivier_bK>
i use nokogiri for parsing a web site
<havenwood>
dangerousdave: also `else` instead of `elsif`
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<jeaye>
I'm trying to get into Ruby via Rice, but I'm hitting an error running my extconf.rb; I'm requiring mkmf-rice, which is in the same directory as my extconf.rb script, but it's not being found (also requiring rubygems first). Is there something else I need to do?
<dangerousdave>
olivier_bK, havenwood answered your question...
<havenwood>
dangerousdave: i suppose on 6 and 18 you could use 1.9 hash syntax, and line 59 you could `.map(&:first_name)`
<dangerousdave>
workmad3, i wondered about that, thanks
<workmad3>
dangerousdave: you could also rewrite it so it isn't abusing a singleton as a global variable... ;)
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<dangerousdave>
havenwood, good point
<dangerousdave>
workmad3, surly if ever there was a case for a singleton, managing a queue is one?
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<dangerousdave>
surely*
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<workmad3>
dangerousdave: not particularly, IMO... queues don't care if there are multiple clients generally, all you're doing is saving yourself the cost of construction in a fake global variable (because 'global vars are bad')
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<workmad3>
dangerousdave: so what you're most likely wanting is connection pooling, not singleton access, which is quite different
<workmad3>
dangerousdave: which is kinda what I suggested to you yesterday ;)
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<dangerousdave>
workmad3, I know, I looked into it, but couldn't reconcile it with the AWS api, i tried!
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<dangerousdave>
havenwood, workmad3, many thanks for feedback.
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<havenwood>
de nada
<workmad3>
dangerousdave: how is it difficult to reconcile?
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<workmad3>
dangerousdave: remove that 'include Singleton', do '$connection_pool = ConnectionPool.new(size: 5) {EmailQueueHandler.new}' and then when you need to add a message, do '$connection_pool.with {|queue| queue.add_message(status, guardian)}' ;)
<workmad3>
dangerousdave: if you really wanted, you could wrap the connection pool up as a singleton ;)
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<dangerousdave>
:-)
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<workmad3>
dangerousdave: I can accept a connection pool is definitely a singleton... there should only be one of them in a program run ;)
<workmad3>
dangerousdave: but the connection itself? not so much... that is something you likely want to be managed sensibly across forked processes and threads ;)
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<dangerousdave>
workmad3, I think I must not be understanding the premise of the connection pool, I need to read up
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<apeiros>
workmad3: sez who?
<apeiros>
workmad3: could have prioritized pools :)
<apeiros>
or pools to different resources
<apeiros>
I think I still have yet to see a valid case for a singleton
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<shevy>
I keep on saying that it should be the machines that do the coding
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<shevy>
tobiasvl btw I looked again today; they actually didn't use fedora but SuSE, with gcc 4.1.0 ... so that is even worse than when I wrote they would have gcc 4.3.0 :(
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<shevy>
and they don't actually seem to have installed python or perl at all, I think it is installed by something called spiderweb, which is a larger suite for handling datasets generated from electron microscopy (images, coordinates, statistical analysis of these and 3D reconstructions)
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<workmad3>
dangerousdave: sorry, got called away for a bit... so you're now going connection pool?
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<dangerou_>
workmad3, yes
<workmad3>
dangerou_: cool :)
<dangerou_>
workmad3, thanks for help
<workmad3>
dangerou_: my work here is done ;)
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<workmad3>
also, it's past 6 on a friday so... weekend!
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<dangerou_>
yay
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<dangerou_>
so you're in the UK?
<workmad3>
yup
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<dangerou_>
London?
<workmad3>
hence why I'm not out looking at aliens blow up the whitehouse...
<workmad3>
dangerou_: no, manchester
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<pontiki>
seems like something to do...
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<sarkis>
hey guys, how can i make sure Net::HTTP::Put is sent as type=json?
<sarkis>
i'm using HTTParty which in turn is using Net::HTTP libs,
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<sarkis>
HTTParty looks like it passes options over, and one of the options is format: :json, however, in the end i am seeing the put request go through as type=http.. i found a work around where i hit the path=/controller.json instead of /controller, just wondering if there is a nicer way to do this
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<pontiki>
that tells the app to return json. is that what you were after?
<apeiros>
alexherbo2: google "zenspiders ruby quickref"
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<alexherbo2>
apeiros: from ruby
<apeiros>
yes. google the above.
<apeiros>
if you mean "programmatically" - afaik there's no way.
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<alexherbo2>
apeiros: yes i mean programmatically
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<jhass>
why would you need it anyway?
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<alexherbo2>
to generate syntax highlighting
<apeiros>
either hard-code them or parse parse.y
<apeiros>
I'd definitively go with the former :-p
<yxhuvud>
I'd go with a premade parser
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<yxhuvud>
not parse.y though :D
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<Mon_Ouie>
syntax highlighting usually only needs a tokenizer, not a parser (plus it may need to be able to highlight code that's in the process of being written and is invalid)
<apeiros>
not quite sure how a premade parser helps you with getting a list of rubys keywords programmatically.
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<yxhuvud>
mon: good point. maybe ace would be a good thing to look at? They have a ruby plugin, no?
<yxhuvud>
apeiros: he wants a syntax highlighter.
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<Mon_Ouie>
Well CodeRay already exists so I assume there's a reason he wants to write his own
<apeiros>
yxhuvud: ^
<alexherbo2>
Mon_Ouie: It is for Kakoune
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<yxhuvud>
mon: also ace if he prefers it on html clients.
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<alexherbo2>
apeiros: zenspider is helpful. thanks
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<apeiros>
ok, wtf did I smoke when I wrote this? .join(eval("'#{separator}'"))
<apeiros>
srsly…
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<banister>
apeiros hehe is that in productino?
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<Mon_Ouie>
eval always makes code safer
<apeiros>
banister: that's in a gem of mine. given, the eval is only evaluated against hard coded strings, so it *should* be safe. but still…
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<jhass>
how old is that?
<apeiros>
it's obviously (well, not from that snippet) a short-cut to generate a regex.
<yxhuvud>
lazy? doesn't the code end up shorter if you remove the evals?
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<apeiros>
yxhuvud: I'm not sure why I used eval instead of just literal strings. maybe to have a nicer inspect of the regex.
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<apeiros>
yxhuvud: anyway, swiss postal service changed the data format anyway, so I can now simplify the whole thing.
<apeiros>
yay, rain! :D
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<apeiros>
Array#at was supposed to be faster than Array#[] for single index lookup… with parser optimizations it's not…
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<yxhuvud>
hmm. that may be the first time I've ever seen a one line case.
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<yxhuvud>
if the file was big enough that something like that would matter, then there are probably other simpler improvements that could have been done. Like streaming through the file instead of globbing it all at once.
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<yxhuvud>
or well, maybe simpler is the wrong word.
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<apeiros>
yxhuvud: in datafiles.rb?
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<yxhuvud>
possibly.
<apeiros>
read().scan() was the fastest variant I could find.
<apeiros>
readlines() was slower. CSV was vastly slower. (iirc)
<apeiros>
*readlines()+split()
<yxhuvud>
yeah, readlines is slow. You have to buffer manually :(
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<apeiros>
and the files have a known size
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<apeiros>
which is comparably small. so reading the whole file is not an issue.
<apeiros>
I tried cached loaders, from marshalled data. they were actually slower than this.
<yxhuvud>
k. my opinions may be tainted by spending too much time parsing several gigs of log files before the user get tired of it.
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<apeiros>
yeah. it's not scaling code. but luckily it doesn't have to scale :)
<apeiros>
unless switzerland acquires an imperial stance and starts invading germany, france, italy, spain and the rest of the world.
<apeiros>
*until
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<yxhuvud>
for the record, I also use read + scan, I simply don't read the whole file at once :)
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<yxhuvud>
except in the reading backwards case, due to gzipreader not supporting IO#scan
<apeiros>
I love it how the postal service documents one of their fields simply with the name of the value. which is absolutely inconclusive about its purpose…
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<yxhuvud>
heh
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<yxhuvud>
it is probably obvious for someone who has spent 20 years inside their organization
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<apeiros>
also it's completely uncertain whether it's the equivalent to a column which is missing from the old format.
<apeiros>
yxhuvud: well… I managed to find bugs in their data because they never actually verified some of the data they provide…
<apeiros>
(because I use …tadaaa… foreign key constraints)
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<yxhuvud>
yes, I've seen similar things in governmental records. maps, in my case.
<apeiros>
worst offender in that regard is SWIFT, which provides the format file for some couple of dozen countries account number formats
<apeiros>
it contained some 15+ errors
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<yxhuvud>
reality tend not to have wormholes. And planning shortest routes is more effective when roads that cross actually cross and isn't 40 meters separated in hieght.
<apeiros>
like countries with account number lengths in excess of 500 chars - obvious copy & paste failure (literal data in the format descriptor)
<yxhuvud>
wormholes makes for really efficient path finding though.
<apeiros>
hehe
<apeiros>
"what? your car can't travel vertically? poor laddy"
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<yxhuvud>
or well. wormholes isn't the correct term. I suppose it is more correct to say that it wasn't using euclidean geometry.
<apeiros>
N dimensional space is fun
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<yxhuvud>
also the data used the same class for the best and for the worst streets, because the worst streets came from a different source, so their value were null for that fiedl. which apparently was the same as the 0 classification the best ways got. -_-
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<apeiros>
lol
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<apeiros>
does that still count as an "off by one"? :D
<yxhuvud>
nah, it is a simple type coercion error
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<hfp>
Hey guys, is it possible to create a hash with a syntax similar to `%w[foo bar baz]` ?
<Edelwin>
I would have told you, but I'm not a guy ;)
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<hfp>
:(
<yxhuvud>
hfp: what is wrong with the normal hash literal?
<hfp>
sorry Edelwin, I assumed guys meant people. I'm not a native speaker so there is that
<hfp>
apeiros: Thanks
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<apeiros>
Edelwin: how about "folks"? (my current favorite, but I ain't a native speaker)
<Edelwin>
I like it too :p
<apeiros>
Edelwin: ok, thanks
<banister>
apeiros folks is very american
<apeiros>
banister: y'all is yankeeish, no? :)
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<apeiros>
at least to me it has a redneck touch
<banister>
yeah
<banister>
me2
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<apeiros>
banister: are you brit? somehow I thought you were 'merican
<apeiros>
sorry, 'murrican
<banister>
apeiros neither, new zealand :)
<apeiros>
oh
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<ddv>
what is a new zealander doing in the netherlands?
<apeiros>
making a fuss!
<banister>
apeiros how does the rails presence: true constraint work with database defaults? so long as a database default is specified it won't fire an exception? or it'll fire an exception if if one is?
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<apeiros>
not sure. I don't think AR uses DB defaults for model defaults.
<apeiros>
try it? :)
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<yxhuvud>
apeiros: it does. I don't know any good introspective way to access them though
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<apeiros>
yxhuvud: Model.columns ?
<yxhuvud>
(apart from instantiating a new object, but that is quite wasteful and only one direction
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<yxhuvud>
I've been unable to find the defaults there. But maybe I was simply looking in the wrong place
<banister>
yxhuvud so i don't specify a value for a column that has a db default and has validates_presence_of, it won't fire an exception?
<shevy>
apeiros hey... I noticed you wrote germany, france, italy spain... but don't forget the eastern border!!!
<apeiros>
shevy: we already own austria and poland
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<shevy>
poland? hmm
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<yxhuvud>
banister: I'm not certain what happens if you instantiate it, and tehn manually reset the field to null. I'd expect AR to give an exception in that cas.e
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<yxhuvud>
or validation error rather. probably no exception due to the default value in db.
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<levo>
i tried to install devdocs, first i installed rubygems, then gem install bundler but after it i got: ERROR: Could not find a valid gem 'bundler' (>= 0) in any repository
<levo>
ERROR: Possible alternatives: bundler
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<shevy>
levo funny error
<shevy>
I can however assure you that: "gem install bundler" works perfectly fine for many people, including myself
<levo>
maybe i didn't install ruby well??
<levo>
or anything else..
<shevy>
unsure
<shevy>
you can do a "gem env"
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<shevy>
and try to install any other remote gem
<shevy>
also
<shevy>
why did you have to install rubygems, it is bundled with ruby
<shevy>
in bin/gem
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<levo>
cause i didn't see "gem" when i typed the command
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<atmosx>
hello
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<shevy>
levo that's very unusual
<shevy>
hey atmosx
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<levo>
shevy: so no suggestion? at least tell me what this command does
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<shevy>
I am not sure what you mean with a suggestion
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<shevy>
ruby source tarball is here ftp://ftp.ruby-lang.org/pub/ruby/2.1/ruby-2.1.2.tar.bz2
<shevy>
when you have downloaded a .gem you could always do: gem install --ignore-dependencies name.gem
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<shevy>
with or without the --ignore-dependencies switch of course
<atmosx>
hey shevy how's life
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<atmosx>
working as a pharmacist sucks big time
<atmosx>
I wanna shot myself in the head more than twice per day, but I try to get over it
<shevy>
lol
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<shevy>
atmosx Try to visualize yourself as that main guy in breaking bad
<atmosx>
Walter White
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<shevy>
yeah
<shevy>
does that mental picture help atmosx?
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<atmosx>
shevy: not much
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<atmosx>
but I'll give it a shot again next week
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<atmosx>
gonna get some some sleep now bb :-)
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<shevy>
hehe
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<levo>
shevy: that error vanished now i have this after "bundle install" --> Gemfile syntax error compile error on line 6: syntax error, unexpected ':', expecting $end ---- gem 'activesupport', '~> 4.0', require: false
<levo>
^
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<shevy>
levo yeah no idea about bundler, there is a channel called #bundler - I myself don't use bundler
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<shevy>
require: false is new hash syntax
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<levo>
mine is 1.8
<shevy>
in ruby 1.8.x it won't work
<shevy>
yep
<shevy>
you are probably at a dead end here, in that case it will mean that bundler moved to past 1.8.x
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<godd2>
then you'll need {:require => false }
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<shevy>
yeah that's plan B
<shevy>
but you may end up having to fix too much in the long run
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<godd2>
but im with shevy. use a newer version of ruby. anything before 1.9.3 is not recommended
<shevy>
plan C is to not use bundler
<shevy>
:-)
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<shevy>
but you would have to backup all your .gems and manage them on your own
<shevy>
many gems are past 1.8.x only though
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<levo>
i just want to install devdocs :(((((
<shevy>
but you didn't have a working, functional ruby before!
<shevy>
you had an old ruby
<levo>
yeah you're right :))
<shevy>
without gem
<shevy>
and gem was not part of ruby before
<levo>
is 1.9.3 ok?
<shevy>
because matz never understood why anyone would need addons
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<shevy>
yeah sort of
<shevy>
anything past 1.8.x really
<levo>
this is the latest version in ubuntu repo
<shevy>
yeah
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<shevy>
apt-get install ruby
<shevy>
:P
<shevy>
but they change stuff
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<shevy>
which is why I compile everything from source
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<shevy>
In the old days they removed mkmf
<shevy>
because "users won't need to compile anything"
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<shevy>
debian-based distributions are of two opinions (1) they are a server-based OS so people just have to install the binaries (2) they are hateful of competition (e.g. gem-usage) and assume that users are idiots
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<apeiros>
banister: and immediately after turning off the cam he went vomiting :)
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<banister>
apeiros that's the world's hottest chilli pepper btw
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<apeiros>
I gathered that from the bazillion scoville
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<banister>
apeiros twice the heat of the ghost pepper iirc
<apeiros>
(well, I gathered that it was supposedly very hot and I wouldn't even lick it)
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<levo>
Your Ruby version is 1.9.3, but your Gemfile specified 2.1.2
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<PasNox>
Hi, i had some ruby gems installed before , some self built. i did a major os upgrade, now some gems faisl to find some libraries. how do i rebuild all of them please ?
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<PasNox>
i did tried: sudo gem2-0 pristine --all
<PasNox>
and then ?
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<PasNox>
ah : sudo gem2-0 upate
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<PasNox>
seems it rebuild extensions / gems!
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<levo>
is gemfile a real file?
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<PasNox>
levo: question for me ?
<levo>
no
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<Connie>
hello i have this problem http://pastebin.com/GKEiH6Up, it happened after added sass-gobbling to my Gemfile and config.rb
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<Connie>
i would ask on #compass, but it doesn't seem to be many people there :P
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