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<lightguard_jp> fryguy: Okay, was thinking it was something like that. Thanks
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<Somelauw> fryguy: Yes, but I got stuck on the question asking me "to add a source", because I could not find an option to use "imap". When starting sup-config again. I get the same error. I can probably delete my config.
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<Somelauw> fryguy: I could not choose between "mbox file", "maildir directory" and "Get me out of here!". I just want a gmail accounts without making a local copy of the files. I just want all e-mails to be on imap and only be downloaded when I need them.
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<fryguy> Somelauw: sup doesn't support imap, you'll need to use offlineimap to get local maildir
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<Somelauw> fryguy: that's a pity. I have about 3 GIG of e-mails. I can't download all of those.
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<fryguy> Somelauw: how did you expect sup to make them searchable without downloading them?
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<platzhirsch> zipruby allows me to open .zip files, zlib allows me to open .gz files. Is there a way/library to open both formats?
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<Somelauw> fryguy: I don't know. Maybe by building a small database of words and what emails contains them. Does it skip attachments when downloading?
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<fryguy> been a long time since i've used/configured offlineimap, not sure if you can convince it to skip some types of mimetype attachments or not
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<Somelauw> Then maybe I'll stick to mutt
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<Somelauw> fryguy: or by indirectly calling imap's search function. I'm not that familiar with the protocols.
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<alainus> I'm using json.PARSE( ) to parse a json response. The problem is the server is apparently not behaving right so sometimes it throws a date before the json response for some reason, breaking the parser. How can I use json.PARSE() only when it's a valid json response ???
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<pontiki_> alainus: you could wrap it in an begin-rescue block
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<Mendon> How can I do "def stuff<<"?
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<pontiki_> can you be a little more explicit, Mendon ?
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<buzzybron> i am using the pg gem, and i am trying to get the id of the row i have just inserted, is that possible?
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<pontiki_> object.reload
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<epitron> Mendon: you want "stuff << thing" to work?
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<epitron> Mendon: def stuff; @stuff ||= []; end
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<epitron> using pg directly? that's hardcore
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<flaccid> is there a way i can find out where a file was required from ?
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<flaccid> require 'foo.rb' or require 'bar'
<bnagy> grep
<flaccid> find out where that was
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<flaccid> as in found at where foo.rb is on the filesystem
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<flaccid> i was looking at https://www.ruby-forum.com/topic/174846 but the one liner there returns a lot of files
<epitron> flaccid: $: holds the ruby path
<epitron> $:.select {|dir| File.exists? File.join(dir, "foo.rb") }
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<epitron> you can also find what file a method or class came from
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<flaccid> hmm thanks epitron
<inimit> epitron: nice
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<flaccid> if you do say require 'stringio', is there a way to work out where that would be?
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<epitron> you should use pry
<epitron> :)
<epitron> "cd StringIO; ?"
<popl> pry is better than irb?
<epitron> so much better
<flaccid> um pry will tell me?
<epitron> yep
<flaccid> ok thanks, i will give it ago
<epitron> gem install pry-plus
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<epitron> :D
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<flaccid> i'm doing this crazy packaging thing and i have a pass missing so trying to work out which
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<popl> urgh, I just installed 'pry'
<flaccid> pass=path
<epitron> pry-plus depends on pry
<epitron> you can always plus it up
<popl> excellent
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<epitron> pry-plus is an empty package that depends on a bunch of pry plugins
<popl> I did get a warning about some flag that I am having trouble finding information about, -SNw2
<popl> are you aware of what that is?
<popl> installation didn't bomb, I just got a warning
<epitron> i wouldn't worry about it
<epitron> flaccid: packaging what thing?
<popl> I'm not
<epitron> good man
<popl> I don't know about that characterization, epitron. :P
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<popl> pry-plus has a debugger. nice.
<popl> s/has/requires/
<epitron> flaccid: in source=(), the Gemfile has the version number as a constant
<popl> fuck, it's going to take me years to learn all this.
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<epitron> you should set that to pkgver :)
<flaccid> epitron: i have but not pushing it until i work out this other problem
<epitron> ok
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<epitron> man, that looks complex to package up
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<flaccid> epitron: its not too bad. just missing a path or two it seems when doing stuff in package()
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<flaccid> it works ok on some hosts that have ruby installed, so must use their system ruby for the stuff that is missing in path
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<epitron> i don't envy people who have to make packages that depend on ruby and gems :)
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<popl> epitron: thanks for the suggestions re: pry-plus
<epitron> np!
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<epitron> if you wanna know some neat features, check this out: http://www.confreaks.com/videos/2467-railsconf2013-pry-the-good-parts
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<sevenseacat> never heard of pry-plus - i'll look into it
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<popl> I'm troubleshooting a permission error right now :P
<popl> well not so much troubleshooting as figuring out how to correctly install gems
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<flaccid> epitron: its embedded thing this, but alas i didn't design the software
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<pontiki> epitron: that was an excellent talk :)
<pontiki> and a super fun con
<epitron> sevenseacat: it's just a metapackage of pry and its plugins
<epitron> pontiki: \/
<epitron> \o/
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<zendeavor> popl: i said eff it and setup rvm and started doing everything through that
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<popl> I was just considering doing --user-install
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<ravster> hey all
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<zendeavor> popl: lol, rvm will warn you about that
<zendeavor> or gem does, i can't remember which
<zendeavor> probably rvm
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<ravster> I'm thinking of manually uninterning an object refernce, so that it gets cleared by the garbage collector. How would I do that? I don't know if unintern is the ruby terminology for what I want, I come from a lisp background.
<popl> zendeavor: I don't know what the best practice is.
<zendeavor> treat it like perl or something
<zendeavor> rvm is your local::lib
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<williscool> Hello all I was wondering if anyone had any expeience with using erector (https://github.com/erector/erector) or arbre ( https://github.com/gregbell/arbre ) for generating html with ruby and could compare them.
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<ravster> or do I just do a var_name = nil and forget about it?
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<ravster> The actual array or whatever it was pointing to gets opened to the GC.
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<pontiki> ravster: setting the var name to anything else detaches the object it's pointing to, so will get swept up usually
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<ravster> pontiki: okay, cool. Thank you.
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<twinkleHood> Hey, so I'm looking at a class method, and the first line goes "item = new", what does that instantiate? :)
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<sevenseacat> test it and see?
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<rsmarsha> hey all, noob question here. :) I have ruby guard installed it and seemed to work the first time around, since a reboot it doesn't work. Is there something I need to do to automate it?
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<sevenseacat> define 'doesnt work'
<rsmarsha> it can't find the guard command
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<Lennier> hi folks
<sevenseacat> does anything ruby-related work?
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<byprdct> Hola!
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<rsmarsha> it's about the only thing i have. :) I can see ruby running though
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<sevenseacat> are you using something like rvm and you installed guard into a different gemset than you're currently using?
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<rsmarsha> not rvm, just install with gem install, will check about the sets
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<Lennier> i'm still learning the basics of ruby and got stuck
<rsmarsha> I can see it in gem list --local
<Lennier> i try to parse url
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<Lennier> into a hash that contains, protocol, domain, directory
<egoleo> hello
<zendeavor> rsmarsha: the command isn't in your $PATH?
<Lennier> how can i do it without regex
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<rsmarsha> ah that could be it, will be right back
<rsmarsha> yeah don't think it is
<zendeavor> rsmarsha: try to run it from the absolute path
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<egoleo> please i am trying to setup verboice with passenger and i keep getting OpenSSL::SSL::SSLError (hostname does not match the server certificate) whenever i login to verboice. any ideas please?
<rsmarsha> will do, once i find what that is hehe
<Lennier> sevenseacat: thanks!
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<rsmarsha> zendeavor: path as in /usr/local/lib/ruby/gems/2.0.0/gems/guard-1.8.1/bin ?
<twinkleHood> Hm, so I'm still looking at this 'item = new" line, I can't actually run the code in my current environment, and a line like this is sorta hard to google. Anyone got a clue as to how it works?
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<egoleo> please i am trying to setup verboice with passenger and i keep getting OpenSSL::SSL::SSLError (hostname does not match the server certificate) whenever i login to verboice. any ideas please?
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<zendeavor> rsmarsha: likely, if the guard command is in there and you can run it with that absolute path
<rsmarsha> guard is in there but can't run it
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<rsmarsha> ah i can
<rsmarsha> lol
<rsmarsha> thanks, will try adding that to my path
<rsmarsha> although i want all gems to be in the path i guess
<zendeavor> rsmarsha: i'm new here, don't take my advice as gospel
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<rsmarsha> on a mac if anyone has done this before?
<rsmarsha> np zendeavor all help is appreciated :)
<zendeavor> of course
<zendeavor> i just don't know if it's appropriate to start appending such a pathname to your PATH
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<twinkleHood> rsmarsha: Okay, so I'm no expert, but that pathediting makes me itchy. It just... feels bad.
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<rsmarsha> Hmm starting to wonder if i should just remove ruby and reinstall it and the gems with RVM lol
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<rsmarsha> can't get the gems to be recognised in my PATH
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<mathnode> Is there a shortcut in ruby, to immediately assign the subject of a test, i.e. an if statement, straight to a variable.
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<mathnode> if File.exist?('/home/me/myfile') my-file-variable = what-I-checked-for
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<ghr> mathnode in that example what do you want the variable to contain? A boolean or the String file path?
<mathnode> ghr, in that loose example, the file path I tested for.
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<ghr> file = 'Path/to/file'
<ghr> x = File.exist?(file) ? file : ''
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<lessless> will this drop decimal part if max is larger then ten: max = rand() + rand(min..5) and max = max.floor if max > 10 ?
<ghr> or I guess: `x = File.exist?(file) ? file : nil`
<lessless> max = rand() + rand(min..10) and max = max.floor if max >
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<lessless> max = rand() + rand(min..10) and max = max.floor if max > 10 :)))
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<mathnode> ghr, what I am thinking about is, back in the day (OS/360 days), program space was small
<mathnode> ghr, so to set a variable for a file that might not even exist, before even checking it might have been deemed wasteful. I was wondering if any modern languages had a way around this.
<mathnode> Not that it's an issue anymore. I think 16 petabytes of ram costs the same as a coffee.
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<ghr> mathnode I can't see anything that does what you're after in File or FileUtils
<bamdad> Hi
<bamdad> I'm getting this :
<bamdad> expected FeaturedClient to be a kind of FeaturedClient
<bamdad> in rspec :-s
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<bamdad> Oops asserting against string, fixed now :D
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<shellox> hey, have anyone managed to get nokogiri running on ubuntu 12.04 with libxml 2.9.0?
<shellox> has*
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<profil> Hey guys. I am writing som erb templates. I want to get rid of the whitespace produced when I have written the code nicely. The output consists of both newlines and tabs but I want it all on one line, how do I do this? if I try to use "-%>" I get "syntax error, expected ;"
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<moofy> What would be the best way to iterate through an array, joining the strings in it with a comma, but not adding one to the last value?
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<moofy> using something like array.each { |values| value + "," } puts one at the end
<pwnfactory> moofy: array.join(',')
<profil> moofy: lol, thats exactly what I am doing. I am using each_with_index and then checking if index == 0
<moofy> ah
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<pwnfactory> moofy: ah, no i see what you're trying to do now, nevermind
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<moofy> taec, thanks
<moofy> er
<moofy> ta*
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<moofy> still new to this
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<moofy> keep managing to make things more complicated than necessary
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<moofy> Guess it's the experts that make things simpler
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<orion> Hi. I have a Hash with a bunch of fields in it, and one of the fields is a Time. I would like to group all my Hash entries together by year. How can I go about doing this?
<ahawkins> anyone used the sequel library before? I can't figure out how to join a table with conditions without overwriting the result.
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<ahawkins> I have https://gist.github.com/ahawkins/5927020, but it's using the id from the email_addresses table for the result
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<KevinSjoberg> Is there a more concise way of doing "ATTRIBUTES.map { |a| public_send(a) }"? What I'm doing is returning a array of values for certain attributes in a class.
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<lessless> in rspec, how to test that model has certain attributes?
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<Lennier> hi folks
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<Lennier> a quick question: what does this =~ operator mean?
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<Lennier> like uri =~ 'http://example.com'
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<KevinSjoberg> lessless: Either you use a third party such as shoulda-matchers (https://github.com/thoughtbot/shoulda-matchers) or you just do a simple assertion such as "expect(model).to respond_to(:attribute)".
<KevinSjoberg> lessless: That will do a regular expression match.
<KevinSjoberg> oops: I meant Lennier.
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<Lennier> KevinSjoberg, thanks!
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<DireFog> hello, I have a small question of using backslashes in, e.g., gsub expressions: 'a%b\c\'"d'.gsub(/('|"|\\|\%)/, '\\\\\1')
<DireFog> why do I have to put five backslashes there?
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<DireFog> (2.0.0-p247)
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<MrZYX> DireFog: what's the desired output string?
<MrZYX> (if you'd puts it)
<DireFog> as expected: a\%b\\c\'\"d
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<DireFog> well, as intended
<MrZYX> I'd do 'a%b\c\'"d'.gsub(/('|"|\\|%)/) { "\\#{$1}" } then
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<DireFog> I'd hope the version with the string parameter is a bit more efficient, I'm just curious about the overabundance of backslashes
<Hanmac> DireFog: because gsub has its own replacement for \* thats why
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<MrZYX> \\\1 escapes the \1
<MrZYX> "\\\1" -> \\1
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<DireFog> Hanmac: that makes sense I guess, in some universe :-]
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<Hanmac> DireFog: so '\\\\\1' is truly parsed as '\\\\' + '\1' and '\\\\' will be parsed though string-escaping and gsub as '\' and '\1' will be parsed in my sample as 2, thats why you need 5 \
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<Judge> hi @ all :)
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<sheeny> Hi all, is there a way to get a range but the opposite way? so I can obiously do 0..4 but can i have it so its the other way around so instead of the outcome being 0,1,2,3,4 i can have 4,3,2,1,0?
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<sheeny> I thought I would be able to do 4..0 but apparently not
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<Hanmac> sheeny: 4.downto(0)
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<sheeny> Hanmac: Thanks, works a treat, is there a reason the reversable hasnt been implemented?
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<Hanmac> its because Range only uses the succ method ... that may be "succ" but there are objects there a succ makes sense but an prev does not
<cdnsteve> hello ruby-ers :)
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<sheeny> Ah
<sheeny> thanks
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<cdnsteve> whoa - anyone heard of or using RubyMotion?
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<endomorphism> I know that if I'm inside an IRB session then Dir.getwd will print path to the working directory. How can I change working directory?
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<endomorphism> havenwood: Thanks.
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<puppeh> what are the costs of blocks in regards to memory?
<puppeh> eg. calling a method like gsub with a block and not a variable
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<pwnfactory> cdnsteve: yea, just saw a talk about RubyMotion
<pwnfactory> from the creator
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<heftig> puppeh: a stack frame
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<puppeh> should it have additional GC costs?
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<puppeh> I mean, does it?
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<puppeh> (vs. using the non-block form)
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<heftig> yeah, it does
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<platzhirsch1> Any idea why out of a suddent I get a lot of warnings displayed when using pry with pry-debugger on RVM using ruby 2.0?
<platzhirsch1> warnings regarding the pry code
<puppeh> heftig: so a stack frame is created with each block evaluation?
<platzhirsch1> I have not signed up for getting warnings from library code
<puppeh> so in the block form, we have 1 stack frame for the method invocation + 1 for the block invocation
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<puppeh> heftig: is that right?
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<heftig> puppeh: the block itself is a bunch of code plus a reference to the context it was created in
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<puppeh> aha
<puppeh> so it creates things in the stack that have to be GCed later on
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<heftig> puppeh: invocation of the block is then like a call, so consumes a stack frame (for the proper return)
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<puppeh> got this, but the GC only concerns the heap, not the stack..am I wrong?
<heftig> no, stack is GCed
<puppeh> oh
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<heftig> that's why you can jump around willy-nilly with fibers and callcc, yet everything works
<puppeh> makes sense
<puppeh> but I thought the stack is a LIFO
<puppeh> so just pop and push should be enough, without GC
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<heftig> puppeh: it's a tree, actually
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<heftig> i.e. you create a reference to the current top of the stack by making a proc, and can save that proc somewhere for later execution after leaving the method, or even pass it to another thread
<DaniG2k> omg
<DaniG2k> 30 mins left at work -_-
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<heftig> puppeh: if the stack frame would be destroyed immediately after return, that wouldn't work
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<_bart> Hi
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<_bart> I'm really missing a macro when writing a ruby C extension
<atmosx> hi
<_bart> I know how to convert Fixnums and Numbers to integers and doubles. But how do I convert Ruby floats to C floats?
<_bart> Like a FLOAT2FLOAT() macro or something
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<atmosx> Anyone good with #HAML can spot an ident error here: https://gist.github.com/atmosx/5928852 ? hmm
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<atmosx> never mind I figure it out
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<waxjar> the parenthesis instead of curly braces on the %a ?
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<salientKnight> hey all
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<waxjar> hi salientKnight
<salientKnight> I am new to Ruby and hitting a wall with the install I guess... when I load my new controller page, I get "axconfig: unable to open axports file /etc/ax25/axports (No such file or directory)
<salientKnight> (in /home/daniell/.gem/ruby/1.9.1/gems/turbolinks-1.2.0/lib/assets/javascripts/turbolinks.js.coffee)" I removed the turbolinks gem and recreated the project and the controller, but the error wont go away ... can anyone help? I could not find anything on google.
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<Hanmac> _bart: NUM2DBL + DBL2NUM
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<salientKnight> hi waxjar
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<waxjar> hi
<salientKnight> sorry didn't see your greeting
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<salientKnight> anyone have thoughts on my issue?
<waxjar> it's probably better to ask Rails' own channel, i think it's #rails or #rubyonrails
<salientKnight> ah ok thanks
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<Dwarf> Anyone good with nokogiri and xpath?
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<Dwarf> I'm running into some problems
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<platzhirsch1> Is there a way in RVM to activate warnings globally?
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<AntelopeSalad> if i were to do: rvm --create 2.0.0 , do i need to include the -p195 at the end?
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<MrZYX> if your RVM is up-to-date yes
<MrZYX> the latest release is p247
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<AntelopeSalad> ok, so the -pxxx is a very important detail for when creating new projects?
<MrZYX> no
<AntelopeSalad> i've never seen such a suffix before on a version number, i thought they would just bump the version if they have a new version
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<chridal> So I am using RSpec, but I would like the tests to run automatically everytime I save the spec or main file. I am suspecting rspec/autotest does not offer this functionality?
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<AntelopeSalad> chridal: you might want to look into using guard
<chridal> AntelopeSalad: Thanks! Will check it out.
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<AntelopeSalad> i'm new to ruby too, but it seems guard was made for such a task. i don't use rspec but i'm 99% sure they had an extension to work with rspec when i browsed their repo
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<chridal> great, thanks
<AntelopeSalad> np
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<effbiai> hi, how to export a path with libs so that gem finds it?
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<effbiai> i've exported RUBYLIB, but still getting this result:
<effbiai> `require': cannot load such file -- psych.so (LoadError)
<effbiai> did reinstall ruby, libyaml and rubygems
<effbiai> any hints?
<popl> Did you follow the instructions on that website?
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<effbiai> Why does require 'some-gem' fail?
<effbiai> gem env | grep 'RUBY EXECUTABLE'
<effbiai> gives the same rsult
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<MrZYX> ruby -v ?
<effbiai> ruby 2.0.0p195 (2013-05-14 revision 40734) [x86_64-linux]
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<effbiai> yum info rubygems gives: Version : 2.0.3
<effbiai> i might need to downgrade to rubygems 2.0.0?
<MrZYX> no
<effbiai> roger
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<MrZYX> maybe gist the full output of gem env
<effbiai> psych.so is located under /usr/lib64/gems/ruby/psych-2.0.0/lib/psych.so
<effbiai> MrZYX: how to do that? :)
<effbiai> ah, yes
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<effbiai> pastebin coming up
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<MrZYX> did you not only install over your package manager but also attempted to compile from source?
<effbiai> nope
<effbiai> only package manager
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<MrZYX> odd, your package manager installs stuff to /usr/local ?
<effbiai> bugzilla report? :)
<effbiai> hmm.. good point
<MrZYX> I'd ping your distributions IRC channel first
<popl> no, you probably broke something. the problem now is figuring out where you broke it.
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<spike|spiegel> which distro is this?
<effbiai> f19
<effbiai> did a yum erase libyaml ruby rubygems
<effbiai> and the .so file gets removed
<effbiai> and when i do the install, the files are back :) (of course)
<spike|spiegel> fedore 19 is not yet released?
<effbiai> so yes; my package manager is actually installing to /usr/local/
<effbiai> it is
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<effbiai> 2 days ago :)
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<popl> hm
<MrZYX> I still doubt it does
<havenwood> Schrödinger's Cat is gold master.
<MrZYX> the .so you mentioned isn't in /usr/local
<effbiai> nope
<spike|spiegel> get rid of /usr/local and install again... see if comes back :P
<popl> heh
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<effbiai> don't wanna do that. there's quite a lot in /usr/local :P
* spike|spiegel facepalm
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<spike|spiegel> take a backup ^_^6
<effbiai> :>
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<MrZYX> hm, my /usr/local is 52Kb big <3
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<popl> wow, so much passive-aggressiveness. can't… keep… going…
<popl> ;P
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<effbiai> ehm.. the psych.so file is in /usr/lib64/gems/ruby/psych-2.0.0/lib/psych.so
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<spike|spiegel> popl: figuratively*
<MrZYX> effbiai: and your broken rubygems install in /usr/local probably searches it in /usr/local
<popl> spike|spiegel: that was the joke :P
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<havenwood> i have 5.5G in /usr/local
<popl> havenwood: What OS are you using?
<MrZYX> /usr/local/bin/spotify is owned by spotify-gnome-git 20130607-1 is the only thing I have in it
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<havenwood> popl: OS X
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<popl> wooo
<havenwood> popl: brewing with 10.9
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<popl> I have almost 1 whole GB
<popl> \o/
* popl zips back up
<havenwood> 3G in /usr/local/Cellar alone
<havenwood> silly Homebrew :O
<effbiai> am i still online?
<havenwood> effbiai: no
<effbiai> thanks
<effbiai> fucking router
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<effbiai> okay.. i did remove the site_ruby in /usr/local. did a reinstall. and now gem env works
<effbiai> thanks guys! :)
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<effbiai> my /usr/local is 21M ;)
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<atmosx> I call a method once, and it's executed twice
<atmosx> ...
<waxjar> magic :D
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<atmosx> x.display …returns 4 4
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<atmosx> while if I run x.get_id I get just 4
<atmosx> … wtf
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<MrZYX> p x.display expands to p p x.get_id
<waxjar> you have p in the method
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<MrZYX> (unlike puts, p returns the parameter, in case that's not obvious)
<atmosx> waxjar: omg
<atmosx> thanks
<atmosx> I used p mostly to understand the class of the method
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<Hanmac> atmosx: there is also already a #display method you may like
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<atmosx> Hanmac: does what?
<Hanmac> >> 4.display
<eval-in_> Hanmac => 4nil (https://eval.in/36489)
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<cr3> is there a way to name a function so that it's somewhat clear it takes a code block?
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<pontiki> where did the nil come from?
<Morrolan> #display's return value.
<pontiki> ah
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<Hanmac> display can be used with tap for fun:
<Hanmac> >> [1,2,3].tap(&:display).inject(:+)
<eval-in_> Hanmac => [1, 2, 3]6 (https://eval.in/36490)
<atmosx> k works but again when I print my method
<atmosx> I get a nil at the terminal in the last row
<atmosx> wtf
<atmosx> !
<atmosx> okay by mad
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<atmosx> my bad it's again p
<atmosx> I removed from calling themethod
<atmosx> k works
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<juanj0se> I'm trying to remove a html tag from a text <img src="image" />, using REGEX, what is the best way to accomplish this.
<juanj0se> I'm trying with gsub but I have not been able to get the entire tag.
<spike|spiegel> read the html5 spec
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<juanj0se> Official document ion or something more specific?
<MrZYX> oO more specific?
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<spike|spiegel> sigh, just use a real parser, Nokogiri or libxml-ruby , both can remove notes
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<spike|spiegel> nodes*
<juanj0se> Ok. thanks.
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<effbiai> trying to install gitlab. with this gemfile: http://pastebin.com/aLEHV6Xz bundle failes with this: http://pastebin.com/LppRsEKe (using bundler installed with gem)
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<popl> effbiai: that's awful similar to the error you had before
<effbiai> yep
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<popl> *awfully
<MrZYX> so whatever you did to cause it, you did it again
<effbiai> the first one i got rid of by deleting my /usr/local/rubysomething
<effbiai> no, cuz gem env still works :)
<effbiai> now it's bundle who whines
<platzhirsch1> banister: do you have any idea, why I receive an awful lot of Ruby warnings when using pry with pry-debugger and binding.pry? There was a pretty old issue regarding this problem I guess
<banister> platzhirsch1: can u give an example of the warnings
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<platzhirsch1> banister: .../pry/command.rb:33: warning: instance variable @match not initialized
<banister> platzhirsch1: so you're runnig your program with warnings on?
<banister> platzhirsch1: what pry version?
<platzhirsch1> banister: I don't think so. pry-0.9.12.2
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<banister> platzhirsch1: well one app you're using pry on has warnings on
<platzhirsch1> I thought I had a global warning option activated somewhere
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<platzhirsch1> ah ok, that might be the case, dunno which one, but sounds reasonable
<banister> i think we got rid of most of the warnings on HEAD
<banister> but i think u'd find a lot of ruby libs generating those kind of warnings if u have the warning switch on
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<wmoq> hi im new to programming and ruby, and I have some questions about some things I am unable to grasp: what is the difference between a variable, a $global variable a @ variable and a @@ variable, i am unsure when to use what.. : /
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<havenwood> wmoq: scope
<Mendon> wmoq: A local variable (no precursor) is only available within that method - you can't access it from outside. An instance variable (@something) is available from anywhere inside that class - so any methods in that class can use it.
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<Mendon> Er, anywhere inside that -instance- of the class.
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<Mendon> So if you do Object.new, set an instance variable on it, then build another object, that new object can't access the first's instance variable.
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<Mendon> wmoq: @@ is a class variable - it's a variable that any instance of that class can use and access. Consider it a global variable but just for that class. Be careful with these.
<Mendon> wmoq: $ is a true global variable - any ruby code within your whole program can access it.
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<Mendon> wmoq: You should probably avoid those.
<Morrolan> What's the bias against class-wide variables, anyway? :)
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<MrZYX> childs modify them
<Mendon> Morrolan: Globals of any kind are generally a bad thing - it breaks the encapsulation of the object.
<wmoq> hmmm
<banister> Morrolan: cos they're not just class-wide, they're 'hierarchy-wide'
<Morrolan> banister & MrZYX - Oh, I see.
<wmoq> Mendon: when you say whole program you mean any method can use that variable?
<wmoq> what is the difference between @ and @@ ?
<Mendon> wmoq: For a global? Yes - and without passing it. It's just available to be used.
<wmoq> instance and class?
<Mendon> wmoq: @ is instance-wide, @@ is class-wide.
<wmoq> what do you mean by 'passing it'
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<wmoq> instance means that if i have 2 objects they do not share the variable
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<wmoq> correct?
<Mendon> wmoq: Right.
<wmoq> and @@ does share it
<Mendon> wmoq: Indeed.
<wmoq> :)
<wmoq> thanks
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<wmoq> feel a little saner now
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<Mendon> wmoq: It's better practice to pass those variables as an argument to some function when you need to do that though.
<havenwood> wmoq: An local variable is local to the method. Use local variables if you can. You should get by only ever creating local or instance variables.
<wmoq> Mendon: thats what i was going to ask next
<wmoq> why are these things possible, isent it oop that you would pass everything as arguments?
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<Mendon> wmoq: Flexibility is good in a language.
<wmoq> :)
<wmoq> ok
<havenwood> wmoq: You **can** use only global methods, but yeah, you want to select a narrow scoped variable.
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<havenwood> global variables*
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<wmoq> i also do not understand return properly, where does it return whatever I am doing? like if i have a class and inside it i have a method called monkey which puts "foobar", and then i have a return "barfoo" and run x=classname.new and then x.monkey i just get foobar
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<wmoq> where does it get returned? i guess im thinking wrong because im expecting it to print to screen
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<Mendon> wmoq: There's an implicit return in ruby - if you don't explicitly return with "return" it just returns the last value of the function.
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<jocellyn> Hello, is there any equivalent for this channel but for much bigger noobs? I am new to programming and want to chat about stuff, find some friends and ask silly questions and I am not feeling so comfortable doing it here, with so many pro people… thanks, Susanna
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<blob> jocellyn: try #ruby on efnet
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<jocellyn> ok thanks :)
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<apeiros> jocellyn: huh? this channel is pretty noob friendly… just ask ahead…
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<jocellyn> well I dont know about noob friendliness here, I am here for the first time :)
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<RobW_> Is there a reason that FileUtils.cp wouldn't copy from a hidden directory?
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<MagmaRules> Hi there, I'm trying to update my ruby in osx via rvm but it keeps trying and failing to install macports
<MagmaRules> DO i really need macports for dvm ?
<MagmaRules> *rvm
<KevinSjoberg> RobW_: What did you try?
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<wmoxam> MagmaRules: are you using any package management?
<RobW_> The code I'm running is FileUtils.cp('/this/.cache/file.jpg', '/that/asset/file.jpg'). The file src exists
<RobW_> .
<KevinSjoberg> MagmaRules: macports should not be needed for rvm.
<KevinSjoberg> RobW_: And correct permissions is in order?
<MagmaRules> wmoxam: well i have installed JB. But i don't remember doing anything in particular to require macports =/
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<havenwood> MagmaRules: Install Homebrew, then try RVM again: http://mxcl.github.io/homebrew/
<wmoxam> lol
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<wmoxam> everyone likes to recommend homebrew
<RobW_> KevinSjoberg: I had been writing in the same directories earlier, but I'm not positive. How would I check?
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* RobW_ <- hacking, not a rubyist
<wmoxam> MagmaRules: this is useful: https://rvm.io/rvm/autolibs
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<KevinSjoberg> Do a simple "ls -l" on the src and dest directories.
<KevinSjoberg> RobW_: See above message.
<MagmaRules> ty wmoxam
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<wmoxam> MagmaRules: IMO, installing a package manager (be it Macports, Homebrew or Fink) is generally useful
<KevinSjoberg> wmoxam, MagmaRules: To be fair, rvm is overkill unless you need the few things it's good at. I'd recommend rbenv (through Homebrew) or chruby (https://github.com/postmodern/chruby).
<MagmaRules> wmoxam: yeah i just installed homebew
<havenwood> chruby + ruby-install ftw
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* wmoxam shrugs
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<havenwood> MagmaRules: +1 what wmoxam said, more important you pick a package manager than which one
<wmoxam> I use rbenv & Homebrew but have nothing against recommending rvm or macports. All are great tools
<havenwood> my preferred route: brew install chruby ruby-install
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<KevinSjoberg> wmoxam: I do agree. I'm not saying he's doing it wrong, I'm just saying rvm is a lot meatier than the alternatives.
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<MagmaRules> ill look into rbenv =)
<havenwood> KevinSjoberg: RVM even supports installing Rubies with RVM and managing them with chruby.
<MagmaRules> =)
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<KevinSjoberg> havenwood: Yep, I know. But people often choose RVM just because it's common, not because they need the features it provides. Therefor a lot of Rubyist would suffice with chruby, rbenv in combination with ruby-install.
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<havenwood> A ThoughtBot fellow did a chruby writeup recently, but he used ruby-build and it is slicker and lighter with ruby-install: http://pbrisbin.com/posts/chruby
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<MagmaRules> Agreed i picked rvm because its what i remember using last time i used ruby full time and it was recommended to me. Didn't even check the alternatives. Doing that now to learn a little bit more =)
<havenwood> KevinSjoberg: chruby was late to the game but does it right, imho
<KevinSjoberg> havenwood: Agreed :)
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<havenwood> RVM2 being in Ruby instead of Shell is interesting.
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<havenwood> For a lot of use cases it makes sense though, since Ruby is often available. And for a project as ambitious in scope as RVM it sure is nice to be in Ruby instead of Bash.
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<havenwood> Ruby installer written in Ruby requires Ruby. Rubies all the way down.
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<djbkd> anybody have a suggested/recommended/idiomatic method of returning the modified array instead of the deleted item from Array#delete ?
<djbkd> do i wrap Array#delete in a lambda?
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<matled> djbkd: you could do a.tap { |b| b.delete(v) }, not sure if I'd really recommend that
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<RobW_> KevinSjoberg: Turned out it was copying but another process was deleting it after.
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<KevinSjoberg> RobW_: I see.
<RobW_> Ha, yeah. Thanks for lending a hand anyways.
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<popl> djbkd: what are you trying to do?
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<havenwood> djbkd: You could monkey patch :P class Array; def del this; self.delete this; self end end
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<havenwood> [1,2,3].del 2; #=> [1, 3]
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<havenwood> #tap seems reasonable
<havenwood> djbkd: Why not just return the modified array in a separate statement????
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<havenwood> sorry for the multiple ?'s, key repeat too fast >.>
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<havenwood> nice for arrow-keying around but maybe set a bit tooo extreme
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<djbkd> sorry for the delay, thanks
<djbkd> how to explain without a novel..
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<djbkd> working with an erb template w/ puppet
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<djbkd> populating an array of ip addresses, and i want to pop the ip address of the "local" host
<djbkd> if i do my_puppet_array.delete("$::ipaddress") it returns the deleted element back into the erb template
<djbkd> so....that ip addr could move around based on whatever host is compiling the erb template
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<djbkd> i haven't read the source code so i'm not sure why #delete would return the element instead of the modified array
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<popl> \o/
<djbkd> guess i needed to read more, thanks :)
<popl> always good to have more eyes on the problem
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<djbkd> much appreciated
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<popl> ah, #cycle is cool
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<havenwood> clock = %w[tick tock].cycle; loop do; puts clock.next; sleep 1 end
<popl> hey, this sounds like the intro to Chrono Trigger!
<popl> :P
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<djbkd> yup, delete_if is available on my puppet nodes, so that's perfect. thanks for being my rubber duckies :)
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<joelteon> puts (sleep 1; clock.next) until false
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<djbkd> actually that reminds me of another question i could probably google. Recommended code golfing sites?
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<Pholey> hello quick question
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<Pholey> i want to run multiple threads, however i don't want to run t1 = Thread.new{function1()}; t2 = Thread.new{function1()} t3 = (ect ect)
<Pholey> i want them to preform the same method at once, however i think it looks quite ugly having ten lines of "thread.new"
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<Pholey> is there a way to automate this? i was thinking of something like a function threading(number_of_threads, function_to_run)
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<Virunga> pholey: off the top of my head i think you can use a proc and use it as last parameter for Thread.new
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<Pholey> virunga i am unsure as to what you mean, i cannot find anything for number of threads in Thread.new in the docs
<Pholey> for parameters i mean
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<Pholey> also, i am new to ruby, just a heads up :)
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<Virunga> thread_num = 5; p = proc {|a,b,c| ... }; thread_num.times { Thread.new(&proc) }
<Virunga> proc is the Thread body. I haven't tried this and i'm little rusty with ruby
<Virunga> Try it :)
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<Pholey> will try it now in irb virunga!
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<advorak> I'm using the ruby Curses lib. I have noecho set and when I do win.addch('x') I want to advance the cursor ... any ideas?
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<advorak> answered my own question .. I kept resetting the position to 1,1, :-)
<advorak> (in my loop)
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<_bart> Woop
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<_bart> anybody's in for a segmentation fault?
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<_bart> Unable to find the cause, but it's in this function: https://gist.github.com/bartolsthoorn/5930817
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