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<ruby-lang186>
hi
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<Client_0>
hello
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<Client_0>
Running Visual Ruby on Ubuntu. All packages seem to be installed but I ran into a small error. /.rvm/gems/ruby-2.1.5/gems/vrlib-1.0.16/lib/GladeGUI.rb: line 154 Gtk-WARNING **:Unknown property: GtkMenu.ubuntu-local // I'm not sure if the 2 issues are related but when createing a new project in ruby it doesnt seem to auto build a skeleton.
<zenspider>
what error?
<zenspider>
it _says_ warning
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<Client_0>
I was starting a new project on linux and when I was crating a new project it did'nt populate the folders with those default files it normaly throws in.
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<Client_0>
like i said im not sure if the 2 things are related just I started a new folder and it didnt contain Myclass.rb or main.rb so i was worried maybe I missed something during installtion
<Client_0>
only discrerepncy i noticed was the console warning so I thought maybe i missed a package somehow
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<Client_0>
zenspider are you running linux?
<zenspider>
no
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<zenspider>
I can't help you anyways
<Client_0>
are you a regular on this channel?
<zenspider>
something like that
<Client_0>
ahh cool
<wallerdev>
lol
<Client_0>
whats good wall-e
<wallerdev>
:)
<Client_0>
;)
<zenspider>
I can feel the IQ points just melting away...
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<wallerdev>
:)
<Client_0>
whys that?
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<wallerdev>
are you trying to start a rails project Client_0 ?
<wallerdev>
theres no default ruby project files that i know of
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<Client_0>
nope just figured I take a look at visual ruby
<Client_0>
seems cool wanted to make sure I installed it correctly so something doesn't mess up later
<wallerdev>
ohh
<wallerdev>
is it like a ui ruby app building thing
<Client_0>
i thought it would be like visual basic , seems to be a gui simplifier
<jdecuirm>
this is the error i get if i nest a lot of each for every array i have
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<womble>
jdecuirm: Oh, your method is just constructing a lot more copies than its supposed to. That'll be related to re-using the same object over and over.
<jdecuirm>
so, the way to do that is to create an object at the begining of the method right?
<womble>
You actually want to do the opposite. But I'm expecting that if you just use include? and append a literal array, your problems will probably go away.
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<jdecuirm>
in fact thanks for that womble, te include method made my day
<jdecuirm>
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* apeiros_
tries to emulate yorickpeterse's ranting in #rubyonrails
<apeiros_>
but I utterly fail. I just can't rant that non-stop
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<yorickpeterse>
morning
<yorickpeterse>
apeiros_: wat
<apeiros_>
moin
<tbuehlmann>
moin
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<apeiros_>
yorickpeterse: vivisecting connection handler to either find and/or fix a pool leak. anger is filling. though, code quality is million times better than other parts of rails I've seen. to be fair, it's actually quite good.
<yorickpeterse>
hehg
<yorickpeterse>
give in to the dark side
<apeiros_>
anyway, break time :D
<apeiros_>
brb
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* apeiros_
back
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<apeiros_>
as far as I can see from looking at the code + from pry, Base there is ActiveRecord::Base. so wouldn't this - after the first call - always return the id of the first thread which invoked it?
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<apeiros_>
oh dear
<apeiros_>
of course, connection_id= is not an accessor.
<apeiros_>
it's a delegation to a ActiveSupport::PerThreadRegistry
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<[spoiler]>
Lmao
<[spoiler]>
Rails can be such an adventure sometimes
<apeiros_>
adventure times!
<apeiros_>
it's similarly surreal
<[spoiler]>
LOL
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<apeiros_>
but! I think I've finally unraveled the secrets of connection pool's inner mechanics.
<apeiros_>
no obvious flaw in the thread handling (though, that'd have surprised me anyway)
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<apeiros_>
now I have to figure which information helps me best to figure out where/when/why connections are leaked.
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<apeiros_>
I wonder whether there could possibly go anything wrong when I redefine Thread.new & .start
<apeiros_>
nope. no. not ever. :D
* apeiros_
goes ahead
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<djellemah>
apeiros_: There's some wrinkle with Thread.new and .start when subclassing Thread. I'm not clear on the details though.
<apeiros_>
djellemah: ah. that's old news.
<apeiros_>
start on subclasses doesn't invoke initialize, that's all
<apeiros_>
but for my purposes, all I need to know is that these are the only two ways to create a new thread
<apeiros_>
oh, hm… hmmmm…
<apeiros_>
I wonder what Thread.allocate does
<apeiros_>
aha, easy, it raises
* apeiros_
still wants Thread.stopped do … end
<workmad3>
apeiros_: that would be fun... which thread should it execute it though? :)
<apeiros_>
ok, I guess I woke up stupid
<apeiros_>
what do you mean workmad3? :)
<workmad3>
apeiros_: which thread should the block be executed in the context of? The one that added it? The one that is supposedly stopped? Another one?
<apeiros_>
`Thread.stopped do … end` is supposed to do the almost equivalent of `Thread.start do sleep; …; end`
<apeiros_>
"almost" because `Thread.new do sleep` has a race condition
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<apeiros_>
you have to fiddle around with CVs to get that behavior proper
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<apeiros_>
and I assume it'd be much, much easier to do it in C - create a thread instance and don't register it to the scheduler
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<apeiros_>
much less work than create a thread, schedule it, create a mutex, create a cv, lock mutex, check cv, etc.
<apeiros_>
I love how strptime (all classes) got like a bazillion times faster in the last few ruby releases
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<hanjin>
how to I comment multiple lines in .erb format with sublime text3?
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<hanjin>
I had an answer that press command + / at the same time, but it is for html, not ruby code
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<yorickpeterse>
We can help with questions about Ruby itself, not with questions about Sublime
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<hanjin>
oh, I understand, my mistake, I thought I can get answer all configuration about ruby, Sorry
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<[spoiler]>
Guys
<[spoiler]>
I came up with a jaoke!
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<[spoiler]>
a joke*
<[spoiler]>
Who wants to hear it? :D
<[spoiler]>
Guys? :(
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<centrx>
Ruby is the fifth most active/popular programming language on Github - http://githut.info/ (CSS is not a programming language)
<apeiros_>
[spoiler]: dat overwhelming response…
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<[spoiler]>
apeiros_: ◔̯︵◔
<apeiros_>
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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<[spoiler]>
(⇀‸↼‶)
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<centrx>
What a bunch of characters
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<[spoiler]>
Ok I'll just put the joke here
<canton7>
C#'s "open issues per repository" is probably hugely skewed by MS's repos :P
<[spoiler]>
cause I think it's funny
<[spoiler]>
"What do you call a sys. admin from France? A Frenssh." ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
<surrounder>
/o\
<surrounder>
horrible
<surrounder>
I love it
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<[spoiler]>
surrounder: Woohoo! ⌃ٹ⌃
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<apeiros_>
[spoiler] is emojional
<[spoiler]>
apeiros_: Indeed, I'm a very emojional person.
<[spoiler]>
Also, because I can't help myself... Deal with it. (⌐■_■)
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<apeiros_>
is that a "blind person" emoji?
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<[spoiler]>
no it's the "deal with it" emoji lol
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<morfeen>
Hello, what are some good resources to learn Ruby for experienced programmers? I have a strong understanding of Javascript and Node.js. So looking for and advanced book/material.
<centrx>
morfeen, ("The Well Grounded Rubyist", "Codeacademy", "Metaprogramming Ruby")
<morfeen>
Is Ruby Koans too beginner level?
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<centrx>
morfeen, Perhaps indeed
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<centrx>
morfeen, But you can skip the easy ones. It does cover a lot of relatively unique Ruby things
<centrx>
morfeen, And it has a certain style - tests - that you might or might not like
<morfeen>
centrx: oh alright. Ideally I would like to get an understanding of the syntax and some advanced concepts within a week. I have considerable experience in JS, Python, etc
<bnagy>
and write something. Should be doable in a week easy
<morfeen>
cool
<bnagy>
mainly you need to grok Enumerable
<centrx>
morfeen, You can also take a look at this - http://ruby-doc.com/docs/ProgrammingRuby/ - this is an old version of the Pickaxe book but still relevant (and free and available online)
<bnagy>
and then just get a handle on how we do Modules / Classes
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<morfeen>
Okay, what is the paradigm that is usually used in Ruby codebases? OOP?
<bnagy>
the rest is (imho) pretty standard OO fare
<bnagy>
you'll see lots of code that uses inheritance poorly when it should probably be using composition
<bnagy>
and lots of examples that are just boneheaded over-objecting, but hey
<centrx>
morfeen, Yes, Ruby is very object-oriented (Smalltalk inspired). Also, Ruby offers a lot of functional programming aspects
<bnagy>
Modules are used to sidestep lack of multiple inheritance
<bnagy>
idiomatically, we pathologically prefer enumerators ( read Enumerable! ) over loops
<morfeen>
right.
<bnagy>
oh, and read the quickref
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<morfeen>
thanks bngay, centrx this was very helpful.
<morfeen>
bnagy*
<bnagy>
if nothing else to decode the ugly-ass perl globals $! $@ etc
<bnagy>
fwiw I learned with no materials except the docs, they're very good
<morfeen>
what framework is usually used to write web applications? Is Rails similar to Sinatra?
<bnagy>
whoooole different can of worms
<morfeen>
oh ..
<bnagy>
I don't do web, so I'm gonna bail and go to bed :)
<bnagy>
g'luck :)
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<centrx>
morfeen, Rails and Sinatra are both used a lot
<centrx>
morfeen, Sinatra is much more of a plain simple web framework, while Rails has tons of functionality like an ORM, core-support library, etc
<morfeen>
centrx: okay, Express in Node.js is apparently inspired by Sinatra, so it should not be hard hopefully
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<centrx>
morfeen, Yes it does look similar. The basic concepts in web frameworks are the same across e.g. Django, Sinatra, Express apparently
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<morfeen>
centrx: Cool, I've been offered a web dev job at a Ruby shop, guess I'll have to ping them to find out what they use before committing to something.
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<centrx>
morfeen, Ruby is a lot of fun and powerfully expressive
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<morfeen>
centrx: good to know!
<morfeen>
Cool, Ruby has support for Threads. I had no idea.
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<dubbajo>
hello
<dubbajo>
hello
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<centrx>
Hello
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<yorickpeterse>
aws termination policty oldest instance my butt
<yorickpeterse>
<aws> "lemme just kill the newer instance anyway"
<yorickpeterse>
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
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<matti>
:(
<matti>
yorickpeterse: *hugs*
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<yorickpeterse>
(つ｡◕‿◕｡)つ
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<matti>
yorickpeterse: Haha, cute :)
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<yoniweis>
Seeking advice on error handling
<yoniweis>
Anyone know how to resume flow after an error is rescued?
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<apeiros_>
that was quick
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<Senjai>
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<dRbiG>
hello. anybody knows of any rubygem for email-based account verification? aka the ubiquitous activation link via email?
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<dRbiG>
also something that doesn't expect i'm running rails, because I am not
<wallerdev>
probably will be specific to what you are running
<wallerdev>
since youd need to store something in a db etc
<wallerdev>
if you dont think it matters what system you're using then it's easy to code yourself
<wallerdev>
just generate a random string and store it in the db for a user, then send them an email with a link to a url with that random string
<wallerdev>
check the string and mark them verified
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<sparky89_>
Hello. I have a test suite that segfaults only on our CI server. It segfaults at the end of a 30m run, but not consistently. I can login to the build server and have root access. I'm looking for debugging tips: figure out how to reproduce consistently, etc. Thoughts?
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<wallerdev>
any gem that has a c extension would be something to look at
<wallerdev>
and look at memory consumption
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<sparky89_>
wallerdev: thanks, we've got a handful of those and have tried simply updating them all the latest version. I agree it's almost certainly a c extension, but with a 30m build time, inconsistent segfault, and the number of c extension gems we have, I'm having a hard time developing a strategy to dig into the gems effectively. I will definitely dig into that more
<sparky89_>
wallerdev: memory consumption of the ruby process? is there a way to look at memory consumption of the c extensions within the ruby process?
<ruby-lang051>
I mean its syntax is incorrent, Expected =>
<ruby-lang051>
*Incorrect
<yorickpeterse>
sparky89_: run it under gdb
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<yorickpeterse>
and make sure your Ruby install has debugging symbols for that, otherwise the stack traces will be useless
<sparky89_>
yorickpeterse: thanks, I'll give that a go. might just need to run it gdb all day until I find the segfault, I guess.
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<anithri>
This code https://gist.github.com/anithri/29a75f68669a130e3e26 makes sense to me as I understand the module system. Is there any invisible gotchas to the idea or another reason that this is a bad idea? thanks
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<bnagy>
sparky89_: you can also use valgrind
<|jemc|>
heh, try to use valgrind memcheck with MRI and you'll need an extensive suppression list ;)
<bnagy>
well if you know you're looking for cext leaks it's ok
<bnagy>
sparky89_: one more option that I use a lot, use jruby, use the Java profiling tools ( they're amazing )
<sparky89_>
bnagy: thanks. it looks like valgrind makes it easier to trace subprocesses, too. that should help
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<bnagy>
then anything you don't see in those tools under the ruby heap is probably leaking in C
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<bnagy>
but if you have cexts then it's touch and go that your stuff will work with jruby
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<bnagy>
cext boo, ffi bindings yay
<|jemc|>
agreed on the last point ;)
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<yorickpeterse>
|jemc|: actually said list is very easy to get
<yorickpeterse>
"valgrind --partial-loads-ok=yes --undef-value-errors=no" should be enough to ditch all default MRI warnings
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<|jemc|>
yorickpeterse: if you want to see leaks in your C ext you need "--leak-check=full"
<yorickpeterse>
I know that
<|jemc|>
which, if run with MRI, shows the many memory leaks incurred in the VM
<yorickpeterse>
right, yeah for those I think you do need a supression file
<yorickpeterse>
which I had somewhere but I lost it