#ruby-lang on 2014-04-08 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2014-02-24 17:12 apeiros changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: RIP Jim || Ruby 2.1.1; 2.0.0-p451; 1.9.3-p545: http://ruby-lang.org || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com

00:02 <automationaddict> if a class name starts with :: what does this mean? I am used to the convention Module::Class but this is new?

00:03 <centrx> automationaddict, References the top of the class structure. For example, if you have a top class with the same name as a class inside a module, you may wish to reference the top class instead of the class within the module

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00:05 <automationaddict> centrx so basically is skips the class it is defined in and uses the superclass?

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00:05 <drbrain> it starts lookup from top-level

00:05 <drbrain> ruby provides Array, but you may define MyGem::Array

00:05 <drbrain> ::Array means ruby's array because it is defined at top-level

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00:06 <automationaddict> drbrain trying to wrap my head around how that works in say a gem where there are many modules with the same name and potentially the same class name in both modules.

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00:08 <drbrain> automationaddict: if you're in the MyGem namespace ruby looks for a constant Foo there first, then in each parent namespaces until it reaches the root

00:08 <drbrain> a leading :: says "skip all that, start from the root"

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00:09 <automationaddict> drbrain so if there are two classes with the same name in two modules with the same name, what is the top?

00:10 <drbrain> it sounds like you're describing module A; class B; end; end twice

00:10 <drbrain> which means A::B is the same as A::B

00:10 <drbrain> A is in the root namespace because it isn't wrapped by any other class or module

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00:12 <automationaddict> drbrain thanks for this, i will need to think about it until the light goes on.

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00:13 <drbrain> automationaddict: http://docs.ruby-lang.org/en/2.1.0/syntax/modules_and_classes_rdoc.html may be helpful

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00:23 <automationaddict> drbrain something like this? https://gist.github.com/10076694

00:23 <drbrain> automationaddict: yes

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00:24 <drbrain> without :: line 8 will reference MyModule::Array

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00:24 <automationaddict> drbrain thats pretty cool

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00:26 <automationaddict> drbrain will that continue up a nested hierarchy until it finds the Array class?

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00:27 <drbrain> if it wasn't nested inside MyModule::Array class, yes

00:27 <drbrain> I'm almost out of battery so I might stop responding in a few moments

00:27 <automationaddict> drbrain thats cool, thanks for the help

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00:28 <drbrain> np!

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11:15 <judofyr> hey folks

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11:36 <yorickpeterse> SOMETHING SOMETHING OPENSSL

11:39 <oddmunds> judofyr: yo

11:40 <judofyr> oddmunds: what's up?

11:40 <oddmunds> working. doing some minor ruby stuff at work these days

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14:09 <judofyr> worst/best hack I've written in a while: https://gist.github.com/judofyr/10128699

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14:12 <oddmunds> why do you do it like that?

14:13 <judofyr> because I don't have access to it in any other way

14:13 <oddmunds> right

14:13 <judofyr> somewhere down the stack there's a: env = env.merge(…)

14:13 <judofyr> and Rack::Session is inserted into the new env

14:13 <judofyr> I have access to the old env

14:14 <judofyr> but only *after* the env.merge. (otherwise I could have patched env.merge)

14:14 <oddmunds> so you pull out the session before it gets overwritten?

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14:25 <judofyr> I guess I should just patch Padrino

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14:28 <judofyr> there: https://github.com/padrino/padrino-framework/pull/1651

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14:37 <yorickpeterse> Every time you use GC.disable / GC.disable I will note you on a list of people to punch with an inflatable baton

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19:58 <sarkyniin> hi

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19:59 <sarkyniin> just wanted to get some help on some code

19:59 <sarkyniin> for rubymonk

19:59 <sarkyniin> https://gist.github.com/Sarkynin/d26f9d729ace17bf52cd this should be correct, right?

19:59 <sarkyniin> or am I doing something wrong?

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20:00 <apeiros> sarkyniin: looks fine

20:01 <sarkyniin> Hm.

20:01 <sarkyniin> Throws me some errors.

20:01 <toretore> if source < 4

20:01 <apeiros> I mean, it could be written shorter, more idiomatic, concise - but I guess at this point the focus is on getting it to work

20:01 <apeiros> ah

20:01 <apeiros> right, source is the whole array

20:01 <sarkyniin> oh right

20:01 <apeiros> you want to test and append an individual item of source

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20:01 <banister_> sarkyniin << i not << source

20:02 <sarkyniin> yeah

20:02 <sarkyniin> I corrected it

20:02 <apeiros> banister_: no

20:02 <sarkyniin> now it works

20:02 <sarkyniin> thanks

20:02 * sarkyniin is dumb

20:02 <apeiros> ah, yes

20:02 <apeiros> damit!

20:02 <apeiros> for/in - who uses that? how does it work?!? :(

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20:02 <apeiros> banister_: btw., my pry in 2.1 takes ~10s to start - any advices on finding the culprit?

20:03 <apeiros> a hackish adding-on of profile.rb shows it spends a lot of time grepping

20:03 <banister_> apeiros weird, no idea. plugins too?

20:03 <sarkyniin> apeiros, it's just for explaining how it works

20:03 <sarkyniin> and why each is superior

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20:04 <apeiros> sarkyniin: don't worry, I was just trying to say "I don't use that, which is why I didn't spot it - *hangs head in shame*" ;-)

20:04 <sarkyniin> apeiros: lol

20:04 <apeiros> banister_: how do you mean, plugins too? whether I load plugins?

20:04 <banister_> ya

20:05 <sarkyniin> I started learning ruby initially because I wanted to code for a chatbot made for an online game simulator

20:05 <sarkyniin> but ruby is really cool

20:06 <apeiros> banister_: pry-byebug, pry-doc - that's all I think

20:06 <apeiros> yepp, those are all

20:07 <apeiros> ok, far more than 10s

20:07 <apeiros> close to 30s actually…

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20:08 <apeiros> I don't have that issue in 2.0 or 1.9 - there it's closer to 2s

20:08 <apeiros> (still not stellar, but at least not as horrible as 30s)

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20:09 <banister_> apeiros crazy, thanks for letting me know

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20:10 <t4nk874> olá

20:10 <t4nk874> asasa

20:10 <t4nk874> as

20:10 <t4nk874> asdas

20:10 <t4nk874> asd

20:10 <t4nk874> asda

20:10 <t4nk874> sdas

20:10 <t4nk874> dasd

20:10 <t4nk874> asd

20:10 <t4nk874> asdas

20:10 <t4nk874> dasd

20:10 <t4nk874> asd

20:11 <yorickpeterse> apeiros: you know what to do

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20:12 <apeiros> t4nk874: please practice the touch system elsewhere

20:14 <apeiros> banister_: hm, it happens during require 'pry'

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20:28 <apeiros> banister_: huh? why do you load irb/init.rb ?

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20:33 <apeiros> seems to be byebug.rb is the culprit

20:38 <apeiros> banister_: IGNORED_FILES = Dir.glob('**/*.rb').map { |f| File.expand_path(f) }

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20:38 <apeiros> that's… ugly

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20:41 <apeiros> banister_: ok, resolved. byebug seems to have fixed that glob

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20:44 <apeiros> tho, should use a Set for that IGNORED_FILES

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22:20 <alekst> how would you rewrite @verbose ||= !!ENV['VERBOSE']? Like that @verbose ||= !ENV['VERBOSE'].nil? ?

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22:26 <toretore> i would require a specific string for it to be considered true

22:26 <toretore> VERBOSE=yes

22:27 <toretore> @verbose = ENV['VERBOSE'] == 'yes'

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22:28 <eam> convention would be equal to 1, or set at all

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22:29 <toretore> yes, ENV['VERBOSE'] == '1'

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22:30 <toretore> 'yes' was a bad example

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23:04 <glide> Hey all, I'm working on Project Euler problems. Can someone help me out with problem 1? The answer my script gives doesn't match up with others'

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23:12 <glide> Anyone around?

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23:17 <havenwood> glide: Paste a Gist of what you have so far?

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23:18 <havenwood> glide: i wonder if you checked up to and *including* 1000 instead of *under* 1000?

23:18 <glide> havenwood: heh, that's exactly what I did.

23:18 <havenwood> glide: :)

23:19 <glide> havenwood: can you check out what I wrote and tell me why the latter version is better: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/10207650

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23:20 <glide> Mine is the first version. It's obviously longer and less elegant... is the 2nd version the preferred version?

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23:22 <wallerdev> lol

23:22 <wallerdev> second version is a mess

23:23 <glide> wallerdev: ok, heh. I just found it online and thought since it was shorter it was better.

23:23 <wallerdev> id probably recommend a combination

23:26 <glide> wallerdev: How do you decide on the best way to write a script?

23:26 <wallerdev> comes with just writng a lot of code

23:26 <wallerdev> you understand what is the simplest way to write things

23:26 <havenwood> glide: I might be tempted to write it like this: 1.upto(999).select { |n| [3, 5].any? { |div| n % div == 0 } }.inject :+

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23:28 <havenwood> glide: there are many ways to do it ;)

23:28 <glide> wallerdev: Is simplicity the most important consideration?

23:28 <glide> havenwood: Thanks :)

23:28 <wallerdev> yes

23:29 <wallerdev> until performance becomes an issue it should be the top concern

23:29 <wallerdev> if you make the small things complex you're never going to be able to figure out a large codebase

23:29 <glide> Does performance mean how it relates to other parts of the code, or how it is processed by the computer.

23:29 <havenwood> glide: concise and readable is good

23:30 <wallerdev> performance as in it's running too slow

23:30 <glide> So basically I want my colleagues to be able to see what the code is doing, right?

23:30 <wallerdev> yup

23:30 <glide> K, how would you critique my code? I'm guessing it's pretty obvious but maybe it's too long?

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23:31 <wallerdev> yeah you've got a lot of unecessary code

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23:31 <glide> Ok, creating the variable and array is unnecessary right?

23:31 <wallerdev> not the worst problem, id rather see that in a codebase than the other solution haha

23:32 <glide> Heh

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23:34 <glide> Thanks, all. Heading to dinner. Have nice evenings.

23:35 <wallerdev> later

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