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<brixen> cremes: thanks, appreciated
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<[spoiler]> Aw it's a shame about RubySpec ending. :(
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<yorickpeterse> happy new year!
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<yorickpeterse> brixen: one thing, with cleaning up the rubyspec org, where will mspec reside? Will that be moved into the rbx org?
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<dreinull75> happy new year
<robin850> Yay, happy new year everybody! :-)
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<yorickpeterse> fkn JIT issues
<yorickpeterse> Trying to hunt down https://github.com/rubinius/rubinius/issues/3230, of course it doesn't manifest anymore
<goyox86> Happy new year!
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<GitHub167> [rubinius] YorickPeterse pushed 2 new commits to master: http://git.io/L7OaPw
<GitHub167> rubinius/master 402d725 Yorick Peterse: More specs for String#ascii_only? + String#replace...
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<GitHub167> rubinius/master 250e136 Yorick Peterse: Reset ascii_only cache when calling String#replace...
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<travis-ci> rubinius/rubinius/master (250e136 - Yorick Peterse): http://travis-ci.org/rubinius/rubinius/builds/45617490: The build passed.
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<yorickpeterse> mjc__: do you still experience https://github.com/rubinius/rubinius/issues/2813?
<yorickpeterse> mjc__: https://github.com/rubinius/rubinius/issues/2925 same goes for this, still a problem?
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<brixen> yorickpeterse: hm, good question
<brixen> probably the best place for it
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<darix> so
<darix> any idea about thebug that blocks 2.4 for me?:)
<darix> oh and happy new year
<yorickpeterse> darix: haven't really looked into the build error
<yorickpeterse> * yet
<yorickpeterse> Don't have a SUSE box either sadly
<darix> yorickpeterse: you mentioned it affects others too
<yorickpeterse> darix: if you can provide the full GDB backtraces (`thread apply all bt`) that would be really helpful
<yorickpeterse> euh yeah I think mpapis had some SUSE problems
<darix> yorickpeterse: and btw: get "osc" "build" for your distro from http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tools/. then https://bit.ly/opensuse_create_account -> then osc co home:darix:ruby/rubinius2.4 ; cd home:darix:ruby/rubinius2.4 ; osc build -x vim -x gdb openSUSE_13.2 x86_64; osc chroot openSUSE_13.2 x86_64
<yorickpeterse> darix: can you add that to the issue? I'm terrible at keeping tabs on this in IRC
<darix> ok
<yorickpeterse> I have some FOSDEM stuff to prepare this weekend but I'll make a note to take a look at it as well
<|jemc|> yorickpeterse: I see you're doing some new years issue ticket cleaning :)
<yorickpeterse> |jemc|: Yeah, it's my way of zen gardening
<darix> there
<yorickpeterse> darix: thanks
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<yorickpeterse> Right, compiler question:
<yorickpeterse> In this particular case I'm working on a compiler for my parser, which is supposed to turn a grammar AST into a set of parsing states and what not
<yorickpeterse> I'm currently torn between 1) having the compiler process the AST directly or 2) having the compiler process an intermediate format
<yorickpeterse> Option 1 would be easier time wise, but option 2 would seem to make more sense as you're not directly tied into an AST
<yorickpeterse> Though I'm still not sure if option 2) would give any benefits over 1 in this case, since I'm not writing something as complex as, say, clang
<yorickpeterse> Any thoughts on this?
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<[spoiler]> I'd go with o2, because you're more versatile, ihmo
<[spoiler]> yorickpeterse: ^
<yorickpeterse> But in what way though? Seeing how this compiler wouldn't be that complex I'm not sure if it's going to offer more compared to just using the AST
<yorickpeterse> Somewhere in the back of my head it makes sense not to couple this directly to the AST, but I'm a bit confused
<yorickpeterse> e.g. with ruby-lint (https://github.com/yorickpeterse/ruby-lint) I chose to use the AST directly, although there it makes sense since it's well, code analysis
<yorickpeterse> But there I did also have the problem that it leads to quite confusing code
<[spoiler]> hmm
<[spoiler]> This is a bit beyond me, to be fair :P I can't offer any more advice apart from my "abstract" advice from earlier
<yorickpeterse> Don't worry, Any form of advice is much appreciated
<|jemc|> yorickpeterse: what would the intermediate form "look like"?
<|jemc|> as in, in what way would it be different from an AST?
<|jemc|> for what it's worth, in pegleromyces it works something like (parsable grammar text) -> (AST) -> (AST optimizations) -> (parsing machine opcodes) -> (Rubinius VM bytecode)
<yorickpeterse> |jemc|: That's what I'm not sure of just yet
<|jemc|> so if you need another layer of indirection it may make sense to add it after the AST?
<yorickpeterse> what the AST would have to result in (eventually) is: a list of terminal names, a list of non-terminal names, a state transition table, a rule table and that's about it
<yorickpeterse> so a bunch of arrays :P
<yorickpeterse> I was thinking of converting an AST to basically opcodes, but that wouldn't be very different from just using the AST directly (the opcodes would basically just be method calls)
<|jemc|> to me it sounds like you could have a visitor walk the AST to make the final tables
<|jemc|> that should be enough separation of concern to suit
<yorickpeterse> That's what I'd normally do: build an AST runner
<yorickpeterse> (e.g. it's what I did with ruby-lint)
<yorickpeterse> and Oga's XPath evaluator is an AST runner as well
<yorickpeterse> right I'm off to bed, I'll probably dream about this and see :P
<yorickpeterse> toodles
<|jemc|> 'night
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