DocScrutinizer05 changed the topic of #qi-hardware to: Copyleft hardware - http://qi-hardware.com | hardware hackers join here to discuss Ben NanoNote, atben / atusb 802.15.4 wireless, and other community driven hw projects | public logging at http://en.qi-hardware.com/irclogs and http://irclog.whitequark.org/qi-hardware
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<viric> zear: don't link with ld. link with gcc!
<viric> ld is too low level
<viric> zear: and put -lc at the end. symbols are resolved in the order you supply libraries.
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<zear> viric, when using ld, -lc at the end doesn't change anything
<zear> I will need to modify the internal toolchain's makerules to link with gcc
<viric> then, don't supply -lc and such things
<viric> gcc knows how to link a c program.
<zear> well, -lc is supplied automatically by the internal makerules :)
<viric> ld is a quite dumb linker. it doesn't know about c.
<zear> the whole problem is really the lack of dev documentation in the project
<zear> and decuding everything from the comments of the headers is not exactly the good way to learn about stuff
<zear> by the way, i always thought that when you link with gcc, it calls ld
<zear> but seems it's not how it is
<wpwrak> gcc does call ld for linking. but it provides a number of options you may find hard to guess.
<wpwrak> you can of course strace it and see what the arguments are, then work from that
<zear> yes, but then a new version of gcc comes with some better optimizations towards linking
<zear> so i think always linking with gcc is safer
<wpwrak> there may not be a lot of changes. but yes, if something changes, then you probably wouldn't notice and spend a lot of time tracking the mystery problem down
<viric> wpwrak: gcc -v shows all
<viric> no need for strace
<zear> ha, that's nice
<wpwrak> fun: .au and .nz are not counted ;-)
<larsc> counted for what?
<wpwrak> oops, wrong channel. on http://tweetping.net
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<zear> so how is the nanonote nowadays?
<zear> i haven't been tracking the progress since.. 2011 or so
<zear> are they still being sold?
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<wpwrak> i think they are still available. not sure about the sales volume. i'm also not sure if sharism still sells them, or only pulster.
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