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do you guys mind if I switch gmenu2x to use truetype fonts?
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pcercuei >
I want to use the DejaVuSansCondensed font
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kyak >
pcercuei: makes sense, i guess
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pcercuei >
well the main advantage is that we'll be able to display non-ascii characters ...
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kyak >
that's right.. As i remember, currently gmenu2x is using some native fonts, right?
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pcercuei >
the font is loaded from a PNG
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pcercuei >
also, it'd be about time that we merge the "packages" branch back into the "master" one ...
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pcercuei >
I just need to know that it doesn't break anything on your side
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kyak >
what's the "packages" branch for?
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pcercuei >
it makes gmenu2x able to use OPK packages, which is the format we use in OpenDingux
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pcercuei >
if libopk is found, support for OPKs is enabled, otherwise it's disabled
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pcercuei >
(at compile time)
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kyak >
what does it mean - use opk packages?
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kyak >
like, being able to install them?
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mth >
kyak: OPK is based on squashfs, so packages are mounted when you launch an application, they are not installed
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viric >
what is opk?
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viric >
the openwrt packager?
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kyak >
mth_: i guess it doesn't apply to openwrt then?
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mth >
viric: OPK is the application / package format we use for OpenDingux on the GCW Zero (and on the Dingoo A320 in the future)
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mth >
kyak: you could build OPK files for use on openwrt, as long as you have squashfs in the kernel
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mth >
it's a different approach than package management though
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mth >
we've got a lot of preinstalled libraries in the rootfs
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mth >
and no dependency mechanism
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mth >
so every lib you neeed that is not in the rootfs has to be added inside the application package
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kyak >
mth: ok, i see. I thought you were talking about openwrt's opk
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viric >
gcw zero? mh
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mth >
isn't that opkg?
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kyak >
mth: well, the file name end with opk, hence the confusion :)
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viric >
ah nice thing
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viric >
I wish I knew all the games there in screenshots
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mth >
the "media" tab has the game names in it
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viric >
aha! thank you
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viric >
mth: can this thing play ogg or mp3 with low power?
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viric >
I wondered, what open device allows to play mp3 (with loud speakers) without taking much poewr
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viric >
the kickstarter looks like it worked! are you earning money with this project?
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viric >
lucky those, who do :)
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mth >
yes, I am being paid, although it's not comparable to a normal software engineer's salary
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mth >
but it's fun work, all open source and I learn a lot, so for now that is not a problem
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viric >
well, I imagine so.
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viric >
But It looks fun
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mth >
I got about 6 hours of emulator use out of one battery, for music playing the LCD + backlight can be turned off and the CPU usage would be much lower, so it would last considerably longer
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mth >
I don't know how much though; we haven't measured the power use of individual subsystems yet
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mth >
pcercuei did that for the Dingoo A320, but he doesn't have access to his equipment currently due to being on the other side of the world
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viric >
I mean, music is decoded with the general cpu, right?
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viric >
somehow I imagine it far less efficient than with hw help
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mth >
for today's CPUs music decoding is so easy that they'll sleep most of the time
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viric >
well, the gcw also has a huge battery :)
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mth >
playing MP3 takes about 6% CPU time
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viric >
I should test how long the nanonote lasts :)
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viric >
the battery is far smaller
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mth >
the JZ4770 is manufactured at a smaller process size (65 nm vs 180 nm for JZ4740, if the wikipedia page is correct), which also helps power efficiency
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mth >
we can probably save some power in the kernel as well
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mth >
we don't unpower all unused hardware yet
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viric >
very good :)
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viric >
yesterday I was trying 3.9 in a broadcom chip... I'll try to build a filesystem for it.
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viric >
mth: do you have dropbear there?
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viric >
can you try with dbclient: ssh -J hello hello
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viric >
if it segfaults or not
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mth >
ah, the ssh client from dropbear
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mth >
I read db and think of databases ;)
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viric >
the dropbear ssh client
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viric >
it's about bears
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mth >
opendingux:/boot/local/home # dbclient -J hello hello
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mth >
Segmentation fault
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opendingux:/boot/local/home # sh: hello: not found
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viric >
also segfault? Damn db
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viric >
on x86 it works.
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mth >
I only use the server side
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mth >
the Zero doesn't have a keyboard, so the client is not that useful
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viric >
this requires gdb!
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mth >
gdb needs a patch to work on MIPS though
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viric >
you could have an autossh trying to forward ports :)
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viric >
Really? I used gdb on mips enough times
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viric >
what patch?
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viric >
since when?
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viric >
hm I didn't remember it. Thank you!
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mth >
if you're using 7.3 or before, you don't need this patch
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viric >
Ah, that can explain it
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viric >
This channel is a great place to be at :)
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mth >
the segfault happens on free(), by the way
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viric >
I'll try with valgrind on x85
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mth >
but I don't have debug symbols in dbclient, so gdb cannot provide a good stack trace of the upper levels
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viric >
some hundreds of problems. perfect.
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viric >
don't worry
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mth >
it could also be a corrupted stack though
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viric >
if so, valgrind will tell on x86
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viric >
will check. don't worry. :)
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viric >
but this bug has fcked me on openwrt routers
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viric >
and it's there since years
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mth: can you test a patch on dropbear easily, for mips?
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