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<wpwrak> argh. adding the mips repo is fun ... some 50 branches and hundreds of tags
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<Fallenou_> do branches they say ...
<wpwrak> let's see if gitk can tell me where the development happens ...
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<wpwrak> nice statement from CERN about KiCAD: https://lists.launchpad.net/kicad-developers/msg09924.html
<wpwrak> "I, as a hardware designer, was very jealous (in a good sense) of the freedom [kernel hackers] enjoy"
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* lekernel is more jealous that while Linux is a decent operating system compared to proprietary solutions, NVIDIA et. al. have 5Gbps DRAM IOs while anything OSHW is well below that, for example
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<wpwrak> yeah, the cost barriers for hardware are harder to crack
<wpwrak> but as you said, it's called "hard-ware" for a reason :)
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<wpwrak> note: FR-1 only, 10 mil traces, and apparently no feedback on distance to surface
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<wpwrak> i'm not even sure what FR-1 actually is. the paper-based junk (pertinax) is FR-2.
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<wpwrak> dunno. the restrictions may often also come from lack of resources. both money and time.
<lekernel> money is there but on the wrong projects (see kickstarter) and time would be there too if there were fewer distractions (rpi etc.)
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<wpwrak> the USD 12 phone looks oddly DIY-ish. you'd expect them to do better for all that money :)
<viric> everyone wants to play music with bananas
<viric> at least, the people with money
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<wpwrak> don't complain about kickstarter wasting a million here or there. complain about your government wasting orders of magnitude more money on keeping the troughs well filled
<lekernel> of course, after getting a rpi myself and being surprised at how bad it actually is, it's clear that the million+ people who have one are not those that get much done
<wpwrak> so getting it diminished your productivity :)
<viric> yes, one thing is a banana keyboard on public market, another thing is a banana keyboard funded with public money
<whitequa2k> lekernel: I'd want to hear about your rpi experiences :)
<wpwrak> a banana-based instrument could actually be fun. remove the squishy stuff while keeping the skin intact. dry and harden the skin. then make holes and add whatever generates the waves (mouthpiece, strings, ...)
<lekernel> ha :) I assumed it would be a trouble-free and cheap HDMI source for Mixxeo demos. I was wrong. even changing the screen resolution requires editing a file parsed by the proprietary GPU bootloader - xrandr etc. do not work
<lekernel> and needs rebooting like in the windows 95 times :)
* wpwrak cackles evilly
<whitequa2k> wpwrak: you're by far not the first person to think about this :)
<whitequa2k> there's even a band
<whitequa2k> playing on various dried fruits & vegetables
<lekernel> then, as I mentioned on #milkymist, the SoC is not capable of decent video playback without the proprietary and paid hardware accelerated codecs
<wpwrak> whitequa2k: so the musicians haven't all forgotten about being creative. good :)
<wpwrak> lekernel: regarding your playback misery, how about recoding your video to something that's a bit easier on the CPU ?
<lekernel> who needs electronics for that? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEeiRXOlWUE :)
<lekernel> wpwrak, yeah, I'll try that. but still the rpi is "disappointing".
<viric> voting value, bound to amount of payment. :)
<wpwrak> kewl idea. finally a clean way to legalize corruption. is he from argentina ?
<viric> "El Instituto Juan de Mariana (IJM) es una institución independiente dedicada a la investigación de los asuntos públicos"
<viric> no, Spaniard, I'm afraid
<viric> we already have 'UPyD' (Vargas Llosa & friends), which want voting power proportional "to intelligence"
<viric> (they count themselves among the most intelligent)
<wpwrak> maybe voter exam wouldn't be all that bad
<wpwrak> should get rid of some of the more populist votes
<viric> it will not be you checking the exams, remember.
<wpwrak> well, you could make them and the results public
<wpwrak> you could still get leakage fraud, though
<viric> recently the citizenship was denied to an african that worked many years in Spain, because in the "citizenship exam", he didn't know the name of the wife of the president.
<viric> I didn't know the name either.
<wpwrak> perhaps the correct answer is "i usually call her honey" ;-)
<wpwrak> i mean, a stupid and degrading question merits an answer of the same kind
<wpwrak> but i suppose he didn't fail the exam just because of that. it may just have been the most memorable nonsense question.
<viric> yes, but the african payed for the exam, and didn't success
<viric> ~500€ iirc
<wpwrak> you mean he paid extra to ensure success and they still failed him ?
<viric> no :)
<wpwrak> ah, spain, i forgot
<erikkugel> Oh, Spain... what a great weather you got!
<viric> 568€
<erikkugel> anyone familiar with eltiempo.es?
<viric> (568€ were to proceed with the complain about the result)
<wpwrak> (just to be on the safe side, i guess)
<viric> nah, here is nicer. A law that allows to launder any money, without questions, if a 10% of the amount is payed as taxes.
<wpwrak> we had that in 2009
<viric> oh, you win :)
<wpwrak> this one is better: no extra charges
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<viric> wpwrak: ah, cheaper, but yours includes questions
<viric> no? quick read.
<viric> I don't really want to know the deep details :)
<wpwrak> not a lot of questions. and it's probably quite okay to just ignore those you don't like :)
<wpwrak> also, never underestimate the power of poor memory
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<wpwrak> hmm, tricky git question: i've added a remote repository to my tree but i picked a bad name for it. now i added it again, under the correct name. deleting the remote branches and the .git/config entry of the old one should be safe now, shouldn't it ?
<wpwrak> (both are up to date, so content is identical)
<Fallenou_> cannot you git remote rm <name> ?
<wpwrak> ah, that seems to be even nicer :) thanks !
<larsc> both methods will work
<wpwrak> let's see what happens
<wpwrak> seems everything survived. nice :)
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<qi-bot> [commit] Bas Wijnen: new directory organization (master) http://qi-hw.com/p/iris/fa021a8
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