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<wolfspraul>
after a new-year break I slowly went back, working on some snippets here and there without much direction
<wolfspraul>
fixing bugs
<wolfspraul>
I think I will continue with that for a while, going through more chip features
<wolfspraul>
jtag right now, then distributed ram (the one in the luts), then block ram
<wolfspraul>
then I need to spend more time on programming the chip, i.e. how to translate a design into bits and routing
<wolfspraul>
right now that's too fragile and basically hard-coded for the AND gate and fixed-frequency blinking led
<wolfspraul>
oh, dcm and pll also need to be started at some point
<wolfspraul>
with the programming, I started to look at writing an llvm backend, so I can program the chip in C via llvm
<wolfspraul>
that's about it
<wolfspraul>
no major news right now, all slow progress and some homework...
<wpwrak>
you should slowly start spreading the word. don't wait 20-30 years until it's perfect :)
<wpwrak>
already what you have now is quite a breakthrough. and other people would probably be interested in helping, if they just knew the project exists
<wpwrak>
(and i know i keep on repeating myself :)
<wpwrak>
also, assuming that you're project currently doesn't financially sustain itself, you may want to bring it into a position where you could receive this sort of help, too. it's not uncommon for companies that need to solve a closely related problem to notice when there's a project out there that already parallels their effort.
<wpwrak>
s/you're/your/
<qi-bot>
wpwrak meant: "also, assuming that your project currently doesn't financially sustain itself, you may want to bring it into a position where you could receive this sort of help, too. it's not uncommon for companies that need to solve a closely related problem to notice when there's a project out there that already parallels their effort."
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<wpwrak>
Lucius: i doubt a lot of people who don't regularly deal with large amounts of money have ready-made plans for handling that. let alone reasonable plans :)
<Fallenou>
well to make profits I would say invest in something like private equity
<Fallenou>
I think it is usually reserved to big bank accounts, there is something like a minimum amount you can invest which would look prohibitive for a simple mortal
<Fallenou>
so usually only rich people, companies and banks invest in those
<Fallenou>
(banks invest your money :))
<wpwrak>
Fallenou: and lose it. luckily,it was yours, not theirs :)
<Fallenou>
=)
<wpwrak>
but yes, best to invest in conflict. patents, weapons, law firms. you can't go wrong with that.
<Fallenou>
how sad is that
<Fallenou>
and how true it is
<Fallenou>
I would add drug companies
<wpwrak>
oh, and let's not forget high-risk banks. "too big to fail" and "too big to jail" both have a nice ring to them, if you're an investor :)
<wpwrak>
yes, drugs are good, too. highly competitive, though.
<Fallenou>
yes but when you have the right contacts in governments
<Fallenou>
you can kind of make your drug mandatory
<whitequark>
larsc: $100m is a lot of food
<Fallenou>
or make the government invest in your company
<Fallenou>
(big vaccination campaings for instance)
<Fallenou>
campains*
<wpwrak>
whitequark: i suppose he meant to eat that food at very expensive restaurants, in the company of very expensive women :)
<Fallenou>
like it was done in France for the influenza :)
<whitequark>
Fallenou: flu is the ideal target for vaccination. allows you to do it indefinitely :D
<Fallenou>
the government bought a huge amount of vaccin for "A type Influenza"
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<Fallenou>
and then they dropped it
<wpwrak>
Fallenou: yes, that was a nice one. still, you can only pull this of once every few years.
<Fallenou>
yes but this year they said the flue was very dangerous etc
<Fallenou>
a big nice hoax
<wpwrak>
whitequark: that was for the swine/bird flu. happened at a lot of places.
<whitequark>
wpwrak: yeah I'm well aware of that
<wpwrak>
(lot of places) in mean the vaccination madness
<wpwrak>
s/in/i/
<qi-bot>
wpwrak meant: "(lot of places) i mean the vacciation madness"
<Fallenou>
I bet we still have a huge amount of those un-sold vaccins ...
<Fallenou>
that our tax paid ...
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<wpwrak>
Fallenou: naw, they've expired now
<Fallenou>
yes
<Fallenou>
what a shame
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<wpwrak>
Fallenou: i'm sure it was expensive to safely destroy them, though ;-)
<Fallenou>
I would prefer they throw the money by the windows, at least 1°) we could get it back 2°) they would not convince people to take a drug which sometime can be dangerous
<Fallenou>
wpwrak: arggg
<Fallenou>
:-(
<whitequark>
btw it actually is sensible to vaccinate high-risk groups against those kinds of flu
<whitequark>
but for sure not everyone
<Fallenou>
yes indeed
<Fallenou>
very old people
<Fallenou>
vey young ones
<Fallenou>
and sick people
<whitequark>
exactly
<Fallenou>
but they bought a really insane amount of this vaccin ...
<Fallenou>
I think when they actually realized what they did, they tried to sell a part of it to other countries in EU :)
<whitequark>
I heard something about correlation between 'animal' flu and WHO budget distributions
<wpwrak>
so, i think we have a key: spend a few millions into something stable like real estate in a place without bubbles. spend a bit more into improving your own current situation. spend maybe 1-5 M on interesting new open hardware projects. sink the rest in IP litigation and firearms.
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<Fallenou>
firearms to kill those who sue you for IP theft ? :)
<Fallenou>
like start a war in Mali to kill ARM?
<Fallenou>
(ok this one is bad)
<larsc>
whitequark: well, I can eat a lot of food ;)
<wpwrak>
whitequark: hmm, i don't remember this working like that. lemme look it up ...
<whitequark>
wpwrak: i think that was mostly anecdotal. didn't find any actual data to back it up. OTOH, I didn't really try.
<whitequark>
Fallenou: Mali is, err, Central Africa? How is that related to ARM?
<whitequark>
(yes I'm aware of the name of their GPU)
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<Fallenou>
well that was the joke
<Fallenou>
sorry if it was so bad :)
<viric>
not bad :)
<Fallenou>
French news keeps talking about Mali war
<viric>
if it had been about coltan, it should be closer to congo then
<Fallenou>
so I had this in head ...
<viric>
if it's france, it's their need of uranium
<viric>
and to keep safe the landowners in colonies
<whitequark>
THINK OF FUKUSHIMA WE ALL NEED TO GO SOLAR
<viric>
or ex-colonies, as some papers say.
<viric>
whitequark: french media says that nuclear energy gives energy independence (ignoring that they import all uranium)
<viric>
but well, if all your dependence is about keeping troups in african colonies... you can call it 'energy independence', I guess
<wpwrak>
whitequark: the real scandal was about Tamiflu. it's not a vaccine but something that _may_ help after you've been infected.
<Fallenou>
well I bet the energy production earns more money than selling uranium
<viric>
wpwrak: ah, touched by the malvines, eh? ;)
<wpwrak>
Fallenou: your statement remains valid if you remove "africa" :)
<viric>
I'd say there is far more manipulation in France, than africa
<wpwrak>
viric: yeah, i thought our dear president would like that book ;-)
<Fallenou>
I'm talking about africa because I heard a french musulman guy, named "Tariq Ramadan" giving a talk about north africa / arabe revolutions / middle-east
<Fallenou>
saying that usually behind each revolution the USA (and europe) was not very far ...
<viric>
Fallenou: if an explanation reached you, it's manipulated.
<Fallenou>
well if it's an explanation using actual facts and trying to understand why thing went the way they went
<Fallenou>
using historical facts, cross references etc
<viric>
hahaha
<Fallenou>
it seems likre historian work :)
<viric>
historical facts :D
<viric>
it's hard to distinguish historical facts from fairy tales
<Fallenou>
and the guy said it's proven that USA companies organized workshop about how to protest in peace and raise awareness / lead protests
<Fallenou>
make symbols/logo , catch phrases etc
<Fallenou>
organize a revolution :)
<viric>
Sure.
<Fallenou>
and the very groups that started arabe revolutions were identified and took part in this workshops
<viric>
The islamic banking was gaining support.
<Fallenou>
so in some way USA really helped in those revolutions, because USA wanted those revolutions
<viric>
All is about an option between the bad and the worse
<viric>
If you live next to natural resources, run. run away!
<Fallenou>
or take advantage on them, make profit, try to improve your life and the one of people living around
<wpwrak>
Fallenou: let's just consider what happened in libya. like it or not, Gaddafi was a stabilizing factor for the region.
<Fallenou>
employ people, invest in development
<Fallenou>
wpwrak: well yes, until someday
<Fallenou>
wpwrak: that's why no one gave a shit about him, because he was stabilizing the region
<Fallenou>
but something changed, and he was no longer desirable by western countries
<Fallenou>
(I don't remember what changed)
<Fallenou>
then he was the man to kill :)
<wpwrak>
viric: naw, start producing weapons. your countrymen - on either side of the conflict - shall need them soon ;-)
<viric>
wpwrak: isn't the european production enough?
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<viric>
wpwrak: I thought the market was near saturated :)
<wpwrak>
viric: you can always set up a few scandals that block the usual routes. but you're right, better to just trade them, not produce.
<viric>
now our government has sold contracts to start exploring underground for gas and oil, with a 'fracking' technique. A technique forbidden in many places, because it's prone to contaminate water dwells
<viric>
And also sold contracts for oil extraction next to the beach.
<viric>
they are selling every "country asset" they can
<viric>
"the pressure of the markets"
<wpwrak>
viric: well, if you've ever watched "battlestar galactica", you know what "fracking" really means :)
<viric>
never watched :)
<Fallenou>
ahah
<viric>
but if they destroy the water dwells...
<wpwrak>
viric: the 2000 series was pretty good. among the best in sci-fi if you don't mind the military/metaphysical slant.
<viric>
It'll be very bad
<viric>
I'm not sure I like 'scifi'
<wpwrak>
bah, there's plenty of water in the mediterranean
<viric>
:D
<wpwrak>
and it would be really expensive to make it drinkable. but hey, those catalans have money, right ? :)
<viric>
Sure, lots of money, if we sell all the coast, the mountains, the workforce, ... to the russians
<wpwrak>
having to worry about water should also put those silly secessionist fantasies to rest :)
<viric>
wpwrak: secessionist movement has always been leaded by the left ecologist people, until lastest 11th of September
<viric>
wpwrak: where the strong right-wing suddenly changed its eternal oposition to secession, and tried of a sudden to lead the secessionist movement.
<viric>
now many people are very confused.
<viric>
"may we vote the right-wing, and we would get independent sooner, despite wanting lefty politics?"
<viric>
of course, the right-wing claims a lot about secession now, but every week they are diluting all more and more.
<viric>
I hope some new elections will kick them out hard.
<wpwrak>
so you prefer to be sold by "left-wing" politicians ?
<viric>
well, here 'left/right' has nuances not really exportable to foreign politics.
<viric>
I don't mean 'left' as in soviet union.
<viric>
:)
<wpwrak>
it seems that the differences on that right-left axis are approaching the planck length these days
<viric>
we use the polarity left/right, but that's a completely different axis than in other countries.
<whitequark>
wpwrak: so say we all :)
<viric>
here, 'left' is more related to removing any central power.
<viric>
while in soviet union 'left', it'd be somewhat opposite.
<wpwrak>
ah, so that's where the anarchists are hiding :)
<viric>
yes
<wpwrak>
then your "left" would also favour gun ownership and lower taxes ? :)
<viric>
not at all
<wpwrak>
(-:C
<viric>
every country has its own polarities
<wpwrak>
maybe they're not so serious about weakening the state then :)
<viric>
often reduce to words left/right, but they could be any other words :)
<viric>
I understand your point
<viric>
anarchists like in switzerland, right? :)
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<wpwrak>
the division is often along the lines of "fairly redistribute what others have" vs. "protect what's mine". so there's an obvious age divide there.
<viric>
sure.
<viric>
that's how communits grow to vote 'right' :)
<wpwrak>
viric: hmm, the swiss aren't very anarchists. yet they have what's probably the form of democracy most compatible with the principles of anarchy.
<viric>
wpwrak: gun ownership + low taxes
<viric>
part of the success is in not having a very big country.
<wpwrak>
(vote right) yeah, all you have to do is channel people's worries. make the non-poor fear the poor and the poor hate the non-poor, and they'll be busy being at each other's throat and you can do whatever you want
<viric>
wpwrak: it's also important to have a kind of infrastructure so the poor and non-poor never meet, other than through TV documentaries.
<wpwrak>
(small country) that may be a part of it. not sure if this is still true, though.
<wpwrak>
(keep 'em separated) you mean like the US prison system ? :)
<viric>
that's only one place where they don't meet :)
<wpwrak>
well, you have to have plans for the future :)
<wpwrak>
besides, apartheid wasn't built in a day either
<viric>
exactly.
* whitequark
waits to apply godwin's law
<viric>
:)
<viric>
I'm sorry, but I think we were reaching agreement
<wpwrak>
well, there you have an example of a highly effective form of government :) and "guns for all" and "low taxes" folks should be rather happy with that model, too
<wpwrak>
actually, i don't know how taxes worked during WWII. but then, in a country where people live on food stamps and worry about getting bombed while in bed (or sent to enjoy the snow-covered plains of beautiful russia), i can't imagine them to have been a major issue
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<viric>
yes, people were much easier to make happy back then
<wpwrak>
yeah. they were really happy when the secret police came at night ... and took the neighbours
<viric>
The spanish prime minister got to be a good representative of the country again, in Peru
<viric>
In a speech there, he said "Quiero agradecer al pueblo cubano..."
<wpwrak>
so far, so good :)
<viric>
Reminding the Minister of defense of the same party, some years ago, when made all the troups of El Salvador shout "Viva Honduras!"
<wpwrak>
ough
<viric>
Or when the minister of industry said, in a speech at general motors: "I'm proud of being here at Ford ..."
<viric>
that's the Spanish style ;)
<wpwrak>
so i take it that his polite mention of cubans did not continue with "y al pueblo peruano" ? (or, even better, possibly a long list of peoples, emphasizing unity among latin countries)
<viric>
wpwrak: no no. totally forgot of 'peruano'. he really mixed.
<wpwrak>
darn. as a politician, he should know that it's pronounced "fnord" !