#qi-hardware on 2013-01-22 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

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00:31 <ignoramuss> haaii

00:32 <ignoramuss> i need some advice on a fingergrip mouse :p

00:32 <ignoramuss> any recommendations?

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02:31 <wpwrak> i understand that people often mistake the "q" for question(s). but what could they think the "i" is for ? information ? insights ?

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02:43 <wpwrak> so the antidote still has some side-effects ?

02:55 <wolfspraul> nah :-)

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07:46 <LunaVorax> Hi!

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15:48 <whitequark> wpwrak: LOL

15:48 <whitequark> I just found a dialect of Haskell for embedded programming

15:50 <wpwrak> then i'm just waiting for embedded APL ...

15:50 <whitequark> http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/4205

15:51 <whitequark> they actually do have some interesting ideas, in particular safe handling of arithmetics

15:51 <whitequark> which I'm going to incorporate and have rediscovered independently

15:51 <whitequark> but writing device drivers with monadic I/O is... well, insane.

15:52 <wpwrak> the things people do when there's nothing good on youporn ...

15:53 <larsc> you can also write linux kernel drivers in haskell http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Kernel_Modules

15:54 <wpwrak> ... and you took some bad drugs ...

15:54 <whitequark> wpwrak: as much as I don't like to agree with you on these topics, but yeah: roughly 98% of haskell programming is academic wankery.

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15:55 <whitequark> and you now the funniest thing? they just added these tons of unsafe operations and lost all the advantages of haskell's strict type system :D

15:55 <wpwrak> someone once wrote a pretty neat push router prototype for kicad. i think that was in haskell. unfortunately. and of course, it went nowhere.

15:56 <wpwrak> well, we have so many specialized languages. why not have one optimized for abandonware ? :)

15:57 <wpwrak> whitequark: all paths lead to C ;-)

15:57 <whitequark> wpwrak: I'm going to prove you wrong ;)

16:00 <wpwrak> good luck ! :) http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=ruby&word2=C

16:00 <wpwrak> (not that the bars are not proportional)

16:02 <wpwrak> s/(not/note/

16:02 <whitequark> wpwrak: so?

16:02 <wpwrak> c'mon qi-bot ! you can substitute that !

16:03 <wpwrak> whitequark: means you have a loooong journey ahead of you :)

16:04 <whitequark> wpwrak: but I don't aim for any kind of quantitive domination

16:05 <wpwrak> now .. why does MSC+DMA insert zeroes into my lovely data stream when receiving ...

16:05 <whitequark> that would be silly and unreasonable. instead, I opt for a much, much simpler task: to make a language which is better than C ;)

16:05 <Fallenou> isn't world domination everyone's secret goal?

16:05 <whitequark> Fallenou: you might have some confirmation bias there

16:06 <wpwrak> Fallenou: secret ? :)

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16:11 <Fallenou> hehe

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