<NaotoHanato> The name of the .ubi file on EXT2 must be rootfs.ubi?
<xiangfu> NaotoHanato, you need use the tgz file not .ubi file. mount your sd card to your system . use "tar zxvf -C /PATH/TO/sd_card_partitons_2/" to extra the rootfs files.
<vegyraupe> xiangfu: which button to press for sd boot?
<vegyraupe> xiangfu: and can you note all the available commmands in the wiki somewhere?
<vegyraupe> xiangfu: thx
<vegyraupe> that is very well hidden :)
<xiangfu> :-)
<vegyraupe> xiangfu: now uboot also redirects there
<vegyraupe> xiangfu: do you have a uboot laying around for one of the old, white prototypes? (1GB)
<xiangfu> vegyraupe, wait..
<vegyraupe> xiangfu: thx
<xiangfu> vegyraupe, in this package. it's include the usbboot, u-boot, uImage.bin of 1GB board.
<vegyraupe> xiangfu: thx
<xiangfu> vegyraupe, :-)
<qi-commits> Xiangfu Liu: add CONF_FIRMWARE to Makefile.am http://qi-hw.com/p/xburst-tools/4c7e4f9
<qi-commits> Xiangfu Liu: code cleanup http://qi-hw.com/p/xburst-tools/945e32b
<qi-commits> Xiangfu Liu: cleanup the configure.ac file, -lconfuse http://qi-hw.com/p/xburst-tools/9ed1a76
<vegyraupe> lekernel: hey, I am prepping the next community news http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Community_News_2010-04-28 got to updates from you, anything else that should be mentioned?
<vegyraupe> ahhhhh tuxbrain :)
<tuxbrain> :)
<tuxbrain> allways listening
<vegyraupe> looking forward to your tutorial :) already got a blog post drafted :)
<tuxbrain> hehehehe, today (maybe late night but today I promise)
<vegyraupe> :)
<vegyraupe> ok
<vegyraupe> tuxbrain: is the call on today?
<tuxbrain> better tomorrow, I got a lot of things pending
<vegyraupe> ok
<vegyraupe> just give us a ping :)
<tuxbrain> I't a pitty I haven't a better camera, doing videos with kino
<tuxbrain> vegyraupe: sure
<tuxbrain> doing videos with kino is so easy :)
<vegyraupe> :D
<tuxbrain> working on next hit, arduino+Nanonote+robot arm :)
<tuxbrain> Anybody here has news about playing video on nanonote? I will love to do one demo of playing a video about nanonote, I love recursivity
<vegyraupe> tuxbrain: I ported dfbsee but still need to get xine working with directfb
<tuxbrain> vegyraupe: from total ignorance, but haven't mplayer also works on directfb? at least in Dingoo
<vegyraupe> i didn't get the mplayer to compile
<vegyraupe> i tried but something stopped me
<vegyraupe> not sure what
<tuxbrain> ok
<vegyraupe> tuxbrain: xine is on mirko's todo list
<vegyraupe> not sure how high it is prioritized but it is there :)
<tuxbrain> my prioryty scale is totally blur, basically all is for yesterday :P
<qi-commits> Xiangfu Liu: update README http://qi-hw.com/p/xburst-tools/d61d277
<qi-commits> Xiangfu Liu: update configure.ac, remove check signal.h http://qi-hw.com/p/xburst-tools/2175cec
<qi-commits> Xiangfu Liu: add more error check. remove the signal handler http://qi-hw.com/p/xburst-tools/07bfc33
<qi-commits> Xiangfu Liu: update the email address http://qi-hw.com/p/xburst-tools/2aa4472
<lekernel> vegyraupe, yes
<vegyraupe> lekernel: thx, added :)
<vegyraupe> lekernel: I will try to do these every other week, so whenever you have something, just go ahead and add it :)
<vegyraupe> esp if it is not on one of the Qi lists
<gnufs> hello all!
<gnufs> ordered my my nanonote last night and excitedly waiting for it to arrive :)
<gnufs> a quick question
<gnufs> is the xburst processor 32bit MIPS?
<xiangfu> gnufs, yes. 32bit MIPS
<gnufs> thanks
<xiangfu> gnufs, you are welcome :-)
<tuxbrain> :) welcome gnufs
<wolfspraul> tuxbrain: congratulations for your video!
<wolfspraul> you believe in this for months, and in the end you did it!
<gnufs> tuxbrain: yeah, i was also about to congratulate you :)
<tuxbrain> wow
<wolfspraul> also I am very happy that you are promoting the tuxbrain brand!
<wolfspraul> it's a good brand, you should be proud of it and continue to move forward with your values. You have a very unique business!
<wolfspraul> don't be too shy! more people should know about tuxbrain and order stuff from you!
<gnufs> tuxbrain: hmm, are you also running the tuxbrain store?
<wolfspraul> gnufs: yes, sure :-)
<tuxbrain> wolfspraul: this is the empiric demostrantion that I listen you in spite of my rantings :P
<wolfspraul> and he is one of the rare guys who will really not carry a product he doesn't personally believe in
<tuxbrain> yes gnufs
<gnufs> well, in that case i have a conditional question
<wolfspraul> I mean how rare is that? if there is a product David knows he could sell, but he thinks it's crap, he won't carry it!
<tuxbrain> tellme gnufs
<gnufs> does using the serial console (a la http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Serial_console ) mean disabling the USB?
<tuxbrain> nop
<tuxbrain> but remember you only have usb device not host
<gnufs> right
<tuxbrain> you can operate with serial manwhile ussing ssh
<tuxbrain> :)
<gnufs> oh
<gnufs> you read my mind, sir!
<tuxbrain> In fact I do all test before the video this way :)
<gnufs> tuxbrain: do you by any chance sell this usb-to-serial cable by any chance? (and if you do, would it be possible to add it to an order i placed last night? :D)
<wolfspraul> tuxbrain: some video feedback: first a stand, maybe a stand would make a big difference
<tuxbrain> sorry I don't have this product in catalog,
<wolfspraul> if you are doing more promotional videos in the future :-)
<tuxbrain> wolfspraul: you mean a tripod?
<wolfspraul> yes, sorry
<wolfspraul> tripod
<wolfspraul> then for some reason the screen contents seem not in focus, strange
<wolfspraul> does your camera support focus change while shooting?
<tuxbrain> I had one but broke last week
<wolfspraul> unfortunately that's the one important thing my little Canon is missing. once I start shooting a video the focus is fixed.
<wolfspraul> also, I notice that the screen is too bright. do we support brightness change in software on the Ben NanoNote? I don't even know...
<wolfspraul> if we do, would be cool if we had a way to increase/decrease brightness
<larsc> we could, but we don't do
<wolfspraul> he OK. I will write it up as an issue, at least we remember it's theoretically possible... thanks!
<tuxbrain> the one I used not, just automatic focus but next one I will try with the one I bring to events, is bigger and to usit with one hand is very unconfortable
<larsc> wolfspraul: we could change the lcd color brightness. but not the backlight brightness
<tuxbrain> I will try to find a tripod nest time
<tuxbrain> next time sorry
<tuxbrain> wolfspraul: also I will arrange little bit the ambient light so the contrast is not so high on  screen
<gnufs> has anyone figured out a way to use an external usb or ps/2 keyboard with nanonote yet?
<larsc> not possible
<wolfspraul> tuxbrain: I wrote up the screen brightness issue http://projects.qi-hardware.com/p/ben-nanonote/issues/73/
<gnufs> i can imagine a few attack vectors but wouldn't wanna repeat what anybody else has done
<wolfspraul> if lars says it should work that's encourating, I understand we have tons of details everywhere but at least it's written up so we won't forget and can track it...
<tuxbrain> maybe a serial keyboard, they exist once upon a time ....
<wolfspraul> s/encourating/encouraging/
<wolfspraul> tuxbrain: which software do you use for video post-processing?
<wolfspraul> like for example to format the text into it?
<tuxbrain> wolfspraul: kino
<tuxbrain> to render the text I use the titler plugin
<tuxbrain> to embed images superimpose plugin
<wolfspraul> interesting
<wolfspraul> never done that
<tuxbrain> the only thing you must be carefull is that one rederend there in no undo option, so better check on the preview you achive the right effect
<wolfspraul> I am planning to buy an Elphel camera soon
<tuxbrain> wow
<wolfspraul> I am sure in terms of productivity that will throw me way back, but in terms of fun it should be nice! :-)
<tuxbrain> feels the envy rolling in my veins
<wolfspraul> once I have that little thing I will spend some more time to learn about effective post-processing
<jluis> tuxbrain: where is the video
<wolfspraul> tuxbrain: I plan to visit them soon. Many things to learn...
<wolfspraul> jluis: it's on youtube and here http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Community_News_2010-04-28
<jluis> thaks
<tuxbrain> jluis already subtitled to spanish on youtube and daily motion :)
<gnufs> oooh, found the TTL-232R-3V3 in a store (segor.de) just a few bus stops away from my home \o/
<gnufs> this is certainly my lucky day
<tuxbrain> gnufs: sendme a mail with how much it cost you david@tuxbrain.com
<jluis> but it wasn't on your buzz feed
<gnufs> tuxbrain: "you've got mail!"
<gnufs> ooh, my freerunner battery is compatible with nano? kewl.
<gnufs> "Can close the lid: No"
<gnufs> does it at least fit into the enclosure?
<wolfspraul> close the lid? I'm pretty sure you can close the lid. I think that means the battery cover.
<gnufs> aand, my nokia phone has BL-5C battery!
<wolfspraul> the issue is thickness
<gnufs> wolfspraul: nice
<wolfspraul> bl-5c, freerunner etc. might fit into NanoNote, but not quite right
<wolfspraul> it's hard to push the battery cover onto it, the battery is just a tad too thick
<wolfspraul> the connectors fit though. It also depends on the individual batteries.
<wolfspraul> batteries swell over time
<gnufs> that's what the duct tape is for
<gnufs> swell?
<wolfspraul> yes sure
<wolfspraul> they get thicker
<gnufs> oh mkay
<wolfspraul> if you ever run across a battery recycling place they can show you some of their impressive models
<wolfspraul> it can get round almost like a pear!
<wolfspraul> :-)
<gnufs> :o
<wolfspraul> amazing chemistry inside, don't forget that
<gnufs> wonders if his BL-4C would also fit the nano
<wolfspraul> so but anyway, 'normally' they swell over time, and device vendors will leave tolerances in the mechanical design
<wolfspraul> say for a 10-15% swelling
<wolfspraul> the swelling may be more or less pronounced depending on how the battery is used
<wolfspraul> so your freerunner battery may fit well, or not so well, or not at all
<wolfspraul> it starts off a little too thick, even if it's brand new
<wolfspraul> gnufs: just go to images.google.com search for 'swollen battery'
<wolfspraul> it's normal and affects every battery, although usually it's just 5% or so and you shouldn't notice
<gnufs> in that case
<gnufs> Nokia BL-4C may fit the nanonote quite well ===> http://omploader.org/vNGF5Mg/Nokia-BL-batteries.JPG
<gnufs> tries to register an account on the qi-hardware wiki, but can not pass the captcha for the 3rd time
<wolfspraul> oh
<vegyraupe> gnufs: tell me about it, whenever my login is forgotten I spend at least 5 minutes trying to get the captcha right ;)
<wolfspraul> vegyraupe: also the qi wiki captcha?
<wolfspraul> it's too hard?
<wolfspraul> gnufs: I think the string is always a concatenation of 2 english words
<wolfspraul> maybe that helps
<vegyraupe> wolfspraul: heh, not sure if I'd say "too" hard
<vegyraupe> wolfspraul: there is always a typo as well
<vegyraupe> ;)
<wolfspraul> we could change it
<vegyraupe> or at least it looks like it :)
<wolfspraul> there is also visual math captcha and what not
<wolfspraul> if you guys feel the one we have right now is too hard we should change it
<wolfspraul> also I think we can make the font size bigger which will make it easier to read
<wolfspraul> gnufs: can you try again and let me know?
<wolfspraul> so far I was always able to guess it right, but I also wondered whether/why I got it right :-)
<wolfspraul> at least we have no spam since I re-enabled anonymous edits
<wolfspraul> and there are nasty bots out there, unfortunately
<gnufs> got it right the fourth time :)
<wolfspraul> hmm
<wolfspraul> maybe visual math captcha instead? :-)
<wolfspraul> it's a race with the bots anyway
<gnufs> updates http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Compatible_batteries with nokia infos and pics
<zear> gnufs, can you close the lid when you put that batteries in?
<lekernel> vegyraupe, you may also want to say that Adam has finished the first pass of routing for the M1 board
<lekernel> added it on the wiki
<vegyraupe> lekernel: superbb, thx
<gnufs> zear: haven't received my nanonote yet, so i just added the pictures and some info
<zear> ah, ok
<mortys> Hi$
<mortys> Hi
<tuxbrain> gnufs:tomorrow you will have no excuse, courier has just pick up your order, tomorow will be there. :)
<qi-commits> Carlos Camargo: Fixing some errors on Makefiles http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/b12a749
<kristianpaul> gnufs: ali?
<kristianpaul> gnufs: hey good see you here, and more people supporting copyleft hardware with nanonote :)
<NaotoHanato> I need an advice. Want to connect a led to BNN and then drive it on Linux. I see that U11 (SCIC) chip wasn't included in the board so I was wondering if I can connect a LED between GND and SCL or SDA. Will that configuration work?
<larsc> should work, i guess
<NaotoHanato> Next question is about the .ko (driver). Any ideas to start making this?
<larsc> a driver to controll the leds?
<NaotoHanato> mmm... Yeah, that LED between GND and SCL.
<NaotoHanato> SCL=GPC8
<larsc> to test whether it is working you can simply do (cd /sys/class/gpio; echo 72 > export; echo out > gpio72/direction; echo 1 > gpio72/value)
<larsc> if you want to register the leds as a led device you should use the leds_gpio platform driver
<larsc> as an example how to use it you can take a look at arch/mips/jz4740/board-n516.c
<NaotoHanato> Great. I'll give it a try. Thanks for your help.
<NaotoHanato> Using GND and SCL the LED=1 is on boot. I typed -> cd /sys/class/gpio; echo 72 and the result was: there's no gpio on /sys/class/
<NaotoHanato> *I mean the LED is on when booting.
<NaotoHanato> And after boot too. Always on.
<mth> NaotoHanato: the "GPIO_SYSFS" option must be on in the kernel config to enable the gpio directory in /sys
<NaotoHanato> Can be done using make menuconfig?
<larsc> make kernel_menuconfig
<qwebirc21264> hi
<larsc> hello qwebirc21264
<qwebirc21264> i want some help please
<qwebirc21264> any one can help me
<kristianpaul> can i update an already clonned git directory?
<kristianpaul> qwebirc21264: go ahead, what is your problemn?
<larsc> kristianpaul: yes `git pull`
<kristianpaul> ok thanks
<qwebirc21264> ok i want to design my own image for iq and i dont know anything about how to do so ,where should i start
<kristianpaul> qwebirc21264: read this http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Building_Software_Image
<kristianpaul> and hack :)
<kristianpaul> qwebirc21264: are you related to openwrt?
<tuxbrain> NaotoHanato: interesting...
<tuxbrain> wondering if there is also another free accecible gpio to enable reception and mount an ir port with ir led emiter/ir receiver.....
<tuxbrain> I have two free pins free to solder in the custom plug yet....
<NaotoHanato> Isn't David-san? ^_^
<kristianpaul> tuxbrain: sdio?
<kristianpaul> btw i'll try reply your work with serial  using a pinguino board (i dont have arduino or atmel)
<tuxbrain> NaotoHanato: Arigato yes I'm David :)
<larsc> vegyraupe: do you think that it is a good idea that gmenu2x is messing with the cores pll registers?
<vegyraupe> larsc: come again?
<larsc> mmc rates are down to 1.5MB/s instead of 4.0MB/s
<larsc> and the display clock is running why to slow
<larsc> s/why/way/
<NaotoHanato> mmm... No positive result. I wonder now what is wrong. Seems extrange that when I power on the BNN the LED remain a little on, then if you type "clear" on screen the LED turn off completely.
<NaotoHanato> Using GND and SCL (GPC8)
<NaotoHanato> *I mean strange.
<larsc> hum
<larsc> could it be that the output is configured as lcd pin?
<NaotoHanato> mmm... What should I try next...
<larsc> hm... uboot configures it as a lcd pin
<NaotoHanato> SDA (GPC9) too?
<larsc> yes
<NaotoHanato> :(
<larsc> give me a moment. i'm writing a patch
<qwebirc56366> hi there
<tuxbrain> hi fx
<the_fixou> hi tuxbrain
<the_fixou> just receive my nano today
<tuxbrain> :)
<the_fixou> yep looks great
<tuxbrain> reflash it with last image and will be even better :)
<NaotoHanato> Thanks, larsc.
<the_fixou> yes , i will try tonight
<tuxbrain> NaotoHanato: I'm interested in your evolution in led if I'm not arround here please send me a mail with your success, some howto will be awesome to have too :)
<tuxbrain> the_fixou: yes , but http://downloads.qi-hardware.com/software/images/Ben_NanoNote_2GB_NAND/reflash_ben.sh will make your live a lot easier
<tuxbrain> just execute it as root in the host computer while nano is on usbboot mode
<the_fixou> thanks , how many time does "flashing rootfs..." my during ?
<tuxbrain> acouple of minutes, sorry I had never measured it
<the_fixou> ok ay perfaect !
<vegyraupe> larsc: I didn't write gmenu2x so I am sure I have never looked at the piece of code that you mentioned
<larsc> vegyraupe: ok
<zear> larsc, what's the problem with gmenu2x?
<larsc> it reclocks the pll
<larsc> thus mmc and display are clocked to slow
<larsc> mmc speed for example is down to 1.4 MB/s
<zear> it must be still set to gp2x values
<larsc> hm?
<zear> gmenu2x is a menu for gp2x
<zear> we just adopted for dingoo and nanonote
<zear> so if something is reclocked, it most likely means it is set for gp2x values
<larsc> well it has code for the jz4740
<zear> oh, so you reffer to the cpu clocking code?
<zear> then yes, i left the one from the dingoo port
<zear> because it seemed to be working on ben
<larsc> well. imo it should change the raw cpu registers
<zear> probably, i know nothing about that stuff
<larsc> ok
<larsc> NaotoHanato: if you use http://metafoo.de/openwrt-xburst-qi_lb60-u-boot.bin it should work
<zear> larsc, is you decide to look at it, there are also some other easily fixable things that need to be done
<zear> change the root path from /card to / and path length value, so you can go up a dir without a crash
<NaotoHanato> Great larsc, I'll try.
<NaotoHanato> Of course tuxbrain ^_^
<NaotoHanato> larsc, works perfectly...  (echo 1 > gpio72/value) -> Turn on ; (echo 0 > gpio72/value) -> Turn off ^_^
<NaotoHanato> larsc, can you tell me more about the U-Boot fix?
<larsc> NaotoHanato: yes
<NaotoHanato> Really thanks for your help.
<qi-commits> Carlos Camargo: Adding RXDF TXDF connect them to MAX232, allowing communication between CPU and FPGA via serial port http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/1c0db18
<qi-commits> Carlos Camargo: Updating schematic PDF file http://qi-hw.com/p/nn-usb-fpga/36d217d
<kristianpaul> nite all
<wolfspraul> 'night
<rafa> night
<rafa> kristianpaul: are you from America? :)
<wolfspraul> from Colombia, the second home of Qi Hardware! :-)
<kristianpaul> yes
<rafa> ah.. entonces podemos hablar en espaniol :D
<rafa> kristianpaul: I am from Argentina
<rafa> wolfspraul: if Colombia is the second home then I am happy to live close jeje
<kristianpaul> rafa: claro que si !
<kristianpaul> rafa: ya tienes el nano?
<rafa> kristianpaul: no yet.. It is in its way ;)
<kristianpaul> cool
<rafa> yeah, I am so excited to get one
<kristianpaul> rafa: ahora si me voy a dormir, mañana madrugo a trabajar :)
<kristianpaul> nos leemos !
<rafa> kristianpaul: saludos!