cfbolz changed the topic of #pypy to: PyPy, the flexible snake (IRC logs: https://quodlibet.duckdns.org/irc/pypy/latest.log.html#irc-end ) | use cffi for calling C | if a pep adds a mere 25-30 [C-API] functions or so, it's a drop in the ocean (cough) - Armin
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<mattip> Can you see closed branches on bitbucket or github?
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<nimaje> afaik git doesn't have closed branches
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<mattip> tumbleweed: are there plans for a debian pypy3-* packages?
<mattip> At least a pyyp3-pip would be helpful, see this issue
<mattip> pypy3-pip
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<ebarrett> the "nightly builds" page on your buildbot instance, is that a plugin you folks wrote?
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<mattip> ebarrett: yes, the code is in pypy/buildbot, it has a template, a renderer, and a hook to nightly
<ebarrett> neat, thanks
<ebarrett> not heard of heptapod before
<mattip> it is a "friendly fork of gitlab to support mercurial"
<ebarrett> yeah
<mattip> I think our buildbot test result page is also pypy-specific, it follows the same pattern
<ebarrett> i was just curious, as I'd never seen that page before
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<mattip> this one is also created by buildbot https://buildbot.pypy.org/pypy/
<mattip> and is mirrored as our download page https://downloads.python.org/pypy/
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<the_drow[m]> arigato: Have you read this before? https://v8.dev/blog/pointer-compression
<the_drow[m]> I don't know if this is feasible in PyPy but if it is, we should consider doing it.
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<Dejan> nice article
<Dejan> I've read about it in some book about compiler/interpreter design
<Dejan> can't remember it was few years ago
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<antocuni> the_drow[m]: I think that arigato tried a technique like that in pypy years ago
<antocuni> in the branch "32ptr-on-64bit"
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<the_drow[m]> And what was the outcome?
<antocuni> I think it didn't give many advantage, but probably arigato remembers more
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<mattip> not sure if this is a problem or not, but in the release pypy3.6,
<mattip> pypy3 -m venv /tmp/myvenv
<mattip> creates, in the /tmp/myvenv/bin dir, symlinks to pypy3, python, python3
<mattip> but not to python3.6
<mattip> and not to pypy3.6
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<mattip> oh well, maybe someone will show up to claim it is a bug
<tos9_> yeah I've noticed that before
<Dejan> me too
<Dejan> i thought it was intentional for whatever reason
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<tumbleweed> mattip: the package is python3-pip
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<mattip> tumbleweed: does that install pip for pypy3 ?
<mattip> I have that installed, I don't see how to make it connect to pypy3. pypy3 -mpip fails
<mattip> tos9_: thanks. So all we have to do is update pypy to python3.9 :)
<mattip> or just backport this one-line fix
<tos9_> mattip: hard choice :)
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