14:40 <superherointj> Is Pony language "object oriented" as in Alan Kay meaning (messages) or Java style?

14:41 <superherointj> Is Pony language "object oriented" as in Alan Kay meaning (messages) or Java style?

14:42 <SeanTAllen> superherointj: how do you define "java style"?

14:48 <superherointj> As used in Java programming language.

14:48 <SeanTAllen> sorry that doesnt really help.

14:48 <SeanTAllen> there's an awful lot could mean by that.

14:48 <SeanTAllen> Pony is not Java, that is the best that I can say from that.

14:49 <SeanTAllen> Does Pony share some things in common with Java? You can say yes to that.

14:49 <SeanTAllen> It is also dissimiliar in many ways.

21:50 <Shorttail> Is there something like finally from java in pony?

21:50 <Shorttail> I tried using try else then, but with a return the then block is never executed

21:52 <Shorttail> I need it, or something else, for database code, making sure things always get rolled back

22:00 <SeanTAllen> Shorttail: at this time, with try/else, no. although i think there is an rfc that discusses adding

22:00 <SeanTAllen> and how that might work with `with`

22:01 <SeanTAllen> actually what

22:01 <SeanTAllen> sorry

22:01 <SeanTAllen> o

22:01 <SeanTAllen> so your problem is that you are returing from the then

22:01 <SeanTAllen> ah

22:01 <SeanTAllen> ok

22:01 <SeanTAllen> why are you returning from the try/else Shorttail ?

22:02 <SeanTAllen> can you present a simplied version of your in a playground?

22:03 <SeanTAllen> Shorttail: also `with` might work for what you need. not sure.

22:03 <Shorttail> I run small query, find that whatever the main quiry is going to do is impossible, and return early. The early return bypasses the entire then block, meaning I need to manually roll back for every early return

22:08 <Shorttail> Where's with explained?

22:08 <SeanTAllen> https://tutorial.ponylang.org/expressions/exceptions.html

22:08 <SeanTAllen> half way down

22:12 <Shorttail> Right above it it says the then block is always executed, even if the try returns

22:16 <SeanTAllen> indeed it does

22:16 <SeanTAllen> sounds like a bug

22:16 <Shorttail> I thought I was crazy

22:16 <SeanTAllen> bah

22:16 <SeanTAllen> nah

22:21 <Shorttail> Do you want me to report it on github?

22:22 <SeanTAllen> yes please

22:23 <SeanTAllen> with a minimal example if you can

22:36 <Shorttail> https://github.com/ponylang/ponyc/issues/2843

22:36 <Shorttail> The bug only shows up with nested trys

22:42 <SeanTAllen> thanks