07:08 <Shorttail> Does anyone know what this refers to: c:\projects\ponyc\src\libponyc\type\cap.c:710: cap_view_upper: Assertion `0` failed.

07:09 <Shorttail> I'm assuming it's the path of whoever or whatever compiled the windows binaries?

07:09 <Shorttail> Here's the full backtrace: https://pastebin.com/raw/XK6znPcm

07:15 <Shorttail> I'll try if I can reduce the program

09:22 <dave24> If I want to share a datastructure among multiple actors, do I just put it in its own actor and use it asynchronously? Or is that not very idiomatic?

09:53 <vaninwagen> dave24: sounds reasonable, but depends on the use case. Putting it into its own actor will limit concurrent access.

09:54 <vaninwagen> if you have a val structure that will not change, you can just pass it around

09:55 <vaninwagen> if you need to mutate it, a wrapping actor is a good idea

09:55 <dave24> vaninwagen: yeah, it's a shared and mutable map. Thanks.

10:15 <vaninwagen> ah, the classic shared mutable state ds

12:58 <SeanTAllen> dave24: you have a couple approaches, it depends on what you need performance wise. a single actor and communicating async is a good start. that might become a bottleneck for reads in which case, you could send updates from the mutable copy to read only replicas.

12:58 <SeanTAllen> or

12:58 <SeanTAllen> you could look at using CRDTs

15:36 <ExtraCrispy> Hi there.

15:37 <SeanTAllen> hello ExtraCrispy

15:40 <ExtraCrispy> How are ya SeanTAllen ?

15:41 <SeanTAllen> I'm good. Working and all that.

15:41 <ExtraCrispy> Ah i see.

15:41 <ExtraCrispy> So when is the repo getting moved to GitLab?

15:42 <SeanTAllen> We have no plans to move.

15:42 <ExtraCrispy> How come?

15:42 <ExtraCrispy> I mean now with all that MS crap you should.IMHO.

15:43 <SeanTAllen> You are welcome to your opinion

15:44 <SeanTAllen> There are no plans because there are no plans.

15:46 <ExtraCrispy> LOL i guess.

15:46 <ExtraCrispy> Shouldn't it become a plan just for some people who hate MS?

15:46 <SeanTAllen> That's not how we operate.

15:47 <ExtraCrispy> I see.

16:41 <hmans> ExtraCrispy: all programming languages belong to Microsoft now, and they will stop at nothing until it's all TypeScript. Be afrrraaaiiiiddddddddddd *spooky ghost voice*

16:43 <SeanTAllen> This is a channel about Pony. Not Microsoft. Let's keep it on topic.

16:45 <SeanTAllen> Some folks have strong feelings about Microsoft. They are welcome to them. I'd rather not get anything started on that as it isn't what this channel is for.

16:45 <hmans> Roger that.

17:01 <nisanharamati> the new version of https://stdlib.ponylang.org/ is nice! And having the source code there is a nice bonus :)

17:06 <SeanTAllen> Thanks hmans

17:13 <hmans> I second what nisanharamati said. It's great to look at and even nicer to read.

17:36 <Shorttail> Is this reproducible on non-windows platforms for you? https://github.com/ponylang/ponyc/issues/2740

17:41 <SeanTAllen> @Shorttail are you no longer able to reproduce?

17:41 <Shorttail> I am, I just don't know if it's windows specific

17:52 <SeanTAllen> I can reproduce

20:53 <ndrwsh> Golden ratio 10-liner: https://wandbox.org/permlink/mHHCi8n6TZfJ6EYZ

21:00 <SeanTAllen> TIL about wandbox