#ponylang on 2018-06-26 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2016-11-09 00:11 jemc changed the topic of #ponylang to: Welcome! Please check out our Code of Conduct => https://github.com/ponylang/ponyc/blob/master/CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md | Public IRC logs are available => http://irclog.whitequark.org/ponylang | Please consider participating in our mailing lists => https://pony.groups.io/g/pony

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14:57 <winksaville> @SeanTAllen, Gordon has approved https://github.com/ponylang/ponyc/pull/2803 can it be merged?

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22:40 <wasamasa> is there some way to make ponyc work better with makefiles?

22:40 <wasamasa> I'm thinking of some clever compiler switches to output a .o per source file, then a ld invocation to combine these

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22:54 <wasamasa> ok, it seems I can ask the compiler on how it does this with -V=3, doesn't look particularly clean

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22:57 <SeanTAllen> @winksaville ill check it out when i get a chance

22:57 <SeanTAllen> wasamasa: what doesnt work well with Makefiles?

22:58 <SeanTAllen> Pony does entire source compilation, its not c so a .o per source file isn't really something you would see.

22:58 <wasamasa> hm, I see

22:59 <wasamasa> can you obtain the command it would use for linking, other than printing it with -V=3?

22:59 <wasamasa> you know, the thing pkg-config would allow you to do

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23:07 <wasamasa> anyway, I've minimized the command: cc -latomic -o test -lpthread test.o -lponyrt-pic -ldl -lm

23:08 <SeanTAllen> What is it that you want to accomplish wasamasa ? Why are you trying to figure this out?

23:08 <wasamasa> to build pony programs with a makefile

23:09 <wasamasa> you know how this goes for C, don't you?

23:10 <SeanTAllen> i build pony programs with Make all the time

23:10 <SeanTAllen> not sure why you need to do what you are doing

23:10 <wasamasa> show me your makefile

23:11 <SeanTAllen> what do you think you need to do the linking in a separate step?

23:11 <SeanTAllen> showing you any of the makefile i have isnt going to address that issue

23:11 <SeanTAllen> what is wrong with running `ponyc` on your program

23:11 <SeanTAllen> ?

23:11 <wasamasa> well, perhaps we'll find out then that your makefile is more of a shell script and mine is more of a declarative thing

23:11 <SeanTAllen> if you say so

23:12 <SeanTAllen> im going to step away now because i'm finding this interaction to feel kind of confrontational and insulting

23:21 <wasamasa> judging from https://github.com/SeanTAllen/pony-msgpack/blob/master/Makefile my hunch was correct

23:21 <wasamasa> it works, but it doesn't make the most out of make

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23:25 <SeanTAllen> good luck with your pursuit wasamasa

23:27 <SeanTAllen> @winksaville merged

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23:28 <wasamasa> ok, I figured it out: https://ptpb.pw/jpXe/make

23:29 <wasamasa> the benefit here is that it works generically and changes to either prerequisite trigger a build

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