13:16 <obadz> SeanTAllen: I think repls should be important to the get-stuff-done moto :)

13:17 <obadz> Is Sylvan going to continue working on Pony?

17:14 <SeanTAllen> obadz: sylvan is working on Pony and has not plans to stop.

17:15 <obadz> ah great, is that in scope @ MS research?

17:15 <SeanTAllen> obadz: re repl... its a rather long and complicated path. if you'd be interested in helping move that along, i'd suggest joining the development sync one of these weeks and asking what you can do to start laying the groundwork for a repl.

17:15 <obadz> sorry for all the weird questions, I recently got interested in pony and have only mostly just watched the videos :)

17:15 <obadz> that could be interesting

17:16 <SeanTAllen> obadz: i have limited insight into MS Research and what I know is purely based on Sylvan and I being friends for 30 years so, best to ask him.

17:16 <obadz> is there a regular london gathering?

17:16 <SeanTAllen> obadz: quite alright. we are here to answer questions. the more questions we answer, the more people who use pony, the more we benefit.

17:16 <SeanTAllen> if you would be interested in organizing one, there is a mailing list for it.

17:16 <SeanTAllen> obadz: there was an irregular one but darach has been busy with his startup and sylvanc moved to cambridge.

17:17 <obadz> yes I joined that

17:17 <SeanTAllen> there's also the VUG which happens fairly regularly

17:17 <obadz> I also don't have tons of free cycles sadly but would gladly tag along

17:17 <obadz> I see that building a package manager is on the todo list. Have you guys considered using nix to package/distribute pony?

17:18 <obadz> It's a bit sad that every language decides to reinvent the wheel on that front

17:19 <SeanTAllen> nix doesnt meet requirements. in particular, Windows support

17:19 <obadz> yes that's the achilles heel

17:19 <obadz> but I think it's almost there :)

17:19 <SeanTAllen> at the moment, people who are using Pony daily seem to be quite happy with pony-stable.

17:20 <SeanTAllen> it certainly works for us at Sendence, we haven't had any need past what it provides yet

17:20 <SeanTAllen> a decent part of that could be the lack of 3rd party pony libraries.

17:20 <SeanTAllen> and our using a monorepo

17:20 <obadz> I've not used it yet

17:21 <SeanTAllen> jemc wrote it: https://github.com/jemc/pony-stable

17:22 <obadz> and ponyc is entire written in C ?

17:22 <obadz> is there a plan to self-host?

17:22 <obadz> (or am I looking at the wrong part of the repo?)

17:24 <SeanTAllen> the runtime and compiler are written in c

17:25 <SeanTAllen> there has been talking of doing the compiler in pony. there's lots of work that would need to be done for that. jemc started on the initial steps.

17:25 <SeanTAllen> the runtime, because of its memory fun isn't something that could be written in Pony so there are no plans to rewrite it in something other than C.

17:45 <obadz> yes of course re runtime

18:17 <obadz> given the exceptionally nice FFI, seems like ponyfing the compiler could be done gradually?

18:18 <obadz> «ponyfying»

18:27 <SeanTAllen> obadz: that is the general plan. jemc has been breaking out AST handling. https://github.com/jemc/pony-ast

18:29 <obadz> very cool

20:27 <Rishav> does pony have a web framework?

20:42 <SeanTAllen> Rishav: no one has created one yet.

20:42 <SeanTAllen> I'm hoping someone will create something like Web machine for it