<brandelune>
Reading the log now. Thank you all for the tests. I'm on an island until tomorrow evening so intermittent connection.
<brandelune>
Sorry for that.
<brandelune>
right now I can't even get past (cd src64; make emu)... :(
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<Nistur>
Regenaxer: http://ix.io/19o0 <-- sorry I forgot to post it last night, that's my build-mac.sh for src64 emu. It requires gcc to be installed with homebrew and I believe it's pointing at the most recent version, but it's currently hard coded which is not great...
<Regenaxer>
Hi Nistur! Great, thanks!
<Nistur>
I cannot remember precisely what I changed from your suggestion, but I don't think it was much. It MAY just have been CC
<Nistur>
oh, I commented out the strip at the end because I wanted the symbols for debugging stuff
<Nistur>
maybe some of the CFLAGS
<Nistur>
I don't remember
<Regenaxer>
Let's see if brandelune later picks it up from the log
<Regenaxer>
He tried (cd src64; make emu) which will not work on Mac
<beneroth>
(good that they informed their users. client certs would solve this - too bad nobody cares to implement it (and make it manageable in browsers). Google are actively working against it, so...)
<Regenaxer>
In Germany we must obey to the DSGVO (Datenschutzgrundverordnung) after 25th of May. I wonder if this applies to picolisp.com too
<Regenaxer>
During the next weeks I have to fix all my websites and services
<Regenaxer>
BTW, not only Germany. It is EU law
<beneroth>
every company that offers services to EU citizens
<beneroth>
(including free information "services")
<Regenaxer>
yep
<Regenaxer>
It begins with the logfiles, which contain IP addresses
<beneroth>
aye
<Regenaxer>
Do we really need to delete them after 2 weeks?
<Regenaxer>
ATM I keep them 4 months
<beneroth>
though its up to debate if IP addresses in logfiles are personal data - only if they can be correlated to a user.
<beneroth>
in CH we must keep them 6 months due swiss surveillance state.
<Regenaxer>
oh, *must*
<Regenaxer>
I can correlate them only if they log in somewhere
<beneroth>
aye. there is an exemption for small businesses, which would probably apply to me, but I need to check and then to register for it
<beneroth>
additionally, as a webhoster I might be attackable for DSGVO failures of my clients
<beneroth>
I think the risk is not high, but will see.
<Regenaxer>
yeah
<beneroth>
if I don't come visit you anymore, its because I can't enter germany xD
<Regenaxer>
haha :)
<beneroth>
germany is awful with this Abmahnrecht
<Regenaxer>
yes, sick
<Regenaxer>
It is an industry
<beneroth>
aye. parasites.
<Regenaxer>
exactly
<beneroth>
oh, DSGVO probably also applies to the mailing list, no? xD question is if it requires any information material somewhere.. I mean users opt-in pretty clearly when subscribing, and if you keep up the email you know exactly when they opted-in.
<Regenaxer>
yes, I thought it does not apply. At least it is not a public "website" - Though the archive in fact is, but this does not show addresses
<beneroth>
hm
<beneroth>
though
<beneroth>
picolisp.com: is it managed by 7fach GmbH, oder by yourself as a private person?
<beneroth>
software-lab.de is no company, and its closer entangled with picolisp.com than 7fach
<Regenaxer>
It is on the same server, but not related to 7fach
<beneroth>
DSVGO applies only to companies
<Regenaxer>
Software Lab is also a company (GBR in German law)
<beneroth>
I have no clue what GBR is xD
<Regenaxer>
But DSVGO also applies to private persons if there is a commercial side (eg. ads.), and also to "Vereine"
<Regenaxer>
GBR is Gesellschaft bürgerlichen Rechts
<beneroth>
hm, right.
<beneroth>
you have to many layers of laws. kingdom inheritance stuff.
<Regenaxer>
I host the pil-DB of a Schützenverein (where I'm member) and a Fussballverein
<Regenaxer>
Also some ERP systems
<beneroth>
no public users, but the employees
<Regenaxer>
all ERPs and Vereine are not publicly accessible, so I wonder if they apply
<Regenaxer>
yes, "public" is the question
<beneroth>
applies if there is data of EU citizens in it.
<beneroth>
including employee data.
<beneroth>
afaik.
<beneroth>
same as Windows 10 telemetry probably violates the privacies of your employees if the HR of the company has the employees medical files on it.
<Regenaxer>
probably
<Regenaxer>
Problem are also languages. For FireFight I need to do that probably also in Catalan and Spanish. And if picolisp.com applies also in English
<Regenaxer>
FireFight collects also geolocations
<Regenaxer>
Fortunately I don't use Cookies anywhere :)
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<freeemint>
Hi guys ... do you have any idea for a personal website in Picolisp
<freeemint>
As in how would you built your personal website with picolisp
<freeemint>
What should be on a personal website and so on
<beneroth>
A blog about your adventures with picolisp
<beneroth>
a privacy statement in case any EU citizens read your website :P
<beneroth>
a link list of picolisp resources
<beneroth>
a poll about which undocumented part of picolisp you should document first :D
<freeemint>
No i mean a personal website with and not about picolisp (though picolisp will get a section too)
<freeemint>
a website fitting for surename.de
<beneroth>
what is the goal of making such a website?
<beneroth>
freeemint, do some work yourself mate :P
<freeemint>
don't assume i do not work
<beneroth>
Regenaxer, "Simply paste our JavaScript snippet into your website's code. We'll check every visitor of your site and will block access to users located within the EU." bwahaha
<beneroth>
freeemint, I don't. but don't you make overly use of others lifetime
<beneroth>
also: feel free to show off, e.g. showing us something you made :) often you only ask.
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