10:03 <beneroth> hi all

10:04 <Regenaxer> Hi beneroth

10:05 <beneroth> hi Regenaxer :)

10:33 <cess11> Hi!

10:35 <Regenaxer> Hi cess11!

10:36 <beneroth> hey cess11

10:46 <mtsd> Hi everyone

10:46 <Regenaxer> Hi mtsd

10:57 <beneroth> hi mtsd :)

11:09 <cess11> Did a proper setup of httpGate for SSL for the first time, surprisingly easy once I got around to it.

11:10 <Regenaxer> Congrats! :)

12:06 <tankfeeder> https://www.azirevpn.com/wireguard

12:06 <tankfeeder> https://www.azirevpn.com/blog/2017-11-06/wireguard-free

12:06 <tankfeeder> good news.

13:16 <beneroth> tankfeeder, interesting, thanks for the link!

13:17 <beneroth> I wonder what the difference between the payed azirevpn and wireguard is

13:24 <tankfeeder> you pay for openvpn access

13:24 <tankfeeder> wireguard is free access

13:25 <tankfeeder> others offer wireguard for money only

13:25 <tankfeeder> https://www.mullvad.net/guides/category/wireguard/

13:25 <tankfeeder> good listing: https://www.privacytools.io/

13:33 <beneroth> yeah, really good! thanks!

13:34 <beneroth> so wireguard is an open distributed network, similar to e.g. TOR in that respect that the servers/nodes are not run by one company/organisation (as usually with VPN) but by multiple independent organisations and private people ?

13:36 <tankfeeder> no

13:36 <tankfeeder> just tunnel between points

13:36 <beneroth> that is essentially VPN, no?

13:36 <beneroth> who runs the wireguard endpoints?

13:37 <tankfeeder> two endpoints

13:37 <tankfeeder> :)

13:37 <tankfeeder> https://www.wireguard.com/

13:37 <tankfeeder> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYztYCbV_8U

13:37 <tankfeeder> author of wireguard

13:38 <tankfeeder> wireguard like ssh tunnel

13:38 <beneroth> ah, so this is only the software. as openvpn is another software to achieve the same stuff. in both cases, azirevpn offers to use their infrastructure, but they want money for openvpn and (currently) no for wireguard?

13:39 <beneroth> ok, then I don't know what openvpn includes what isn't in principle possible over SSH and/or wireguard

13:39 <tankfeeder> https://www.wireguard.com/performance/

13:39 <tankfeeder> boost

13:39 <beneroth> I see

13:40 <tankfeeder> 3k lines

13:40 <beneroth> okay, so the difference is not features but quality

13:40 <beneroth> ok, so why do people pay for openvpn when they can have wireguard for free?

13:41 <tankfeeder> no clients

13:41 <beneroth> ok

13:41 <tankfeeder> only for admins geeks

13:42 <beneroth> thanks for the great links and explanations :)

13:51 <tankfeeder> next task: http://rosettacode.org/wiki/Penney%27s_game