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what channel can I ask n00b questions?
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mangooes: Technically, you can ask them in any channel, it's probability of getting an answer that varies. ;)
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I figured it out, sorta. :P
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basically, i define a function: let square x = x * x;; this works fine for normal integers, but with a negative number, it throws an error int->int or something like that. calling it with square (-1);; works fine, though..
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is it basically saying naked -1 is .. ambiguous?
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square -1;; <-- error square (-1);; <-- fine and dandy
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mangooes: I am not getting any error when I try that
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damason >
mangooes: is there any other code around it? Can you share the exact error?
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damason >
mangooes: never mind, I didn't look at what room I had selected, turns out it works fine in Elm, but that probably doesn't help you.
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damason >
mangooes: I think in OCaml you need the parens to distinguish from trying to use `-`, so it seems like you could be trying to do `(-) square 1`.
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mangooes: IIRC, that's just something you have to do when using negative number literals
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mangooes: square - 1 is read as square subtracted with one
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gasche_: :o
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adrien: what do you think?
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freehck` >
people, i've realised that my merlin-mode in emacs knows nothing about Cmdliner module and it's blaming: unbound module Cmdliner.
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freehck` >
what could I do in order to notify merlin about new external module?
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freehck` >
I've already put #use "topfind" and #require "cmdliner" into ~/.ocamlinit
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freehck` >
And when I start utop from a terminal I can just type "open Cmdliner;;".
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freehck` >
edwin: it works, thank you
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gasche: well, I like it but I wish it had happened a bit earlier in the development cycle; that said, I know such decisions tend to arrive quite late
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adrien >
"what do we need to do in order to release?" and that's when you think about splitting components again
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oh... cmdliner drives me crazy.
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freehck >
couldn't it be easier?! =/
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when I begin a new project that makes use of cmdliner, I'll first check how I did it in the older project.. ;)
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flux >
but, if you make it compile with cmdliner, chances are it works..
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flux: you know, I see how powerful this module is; but I'm reading the documentation already for 4 hours and can't understand it at last.
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flux >
well, play around with the examples?
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flux >
I too tried to learn cmdliner by reading the manuals during a train trip, didn't go that well ;-)
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freehck >
flux: I just wanted to ask the channel people whether there's some manual easier than it's examples? )
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flux >
I'm afraid not. well, other people's code maybe.
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freehck >
Oh... Maybe I should have write my project with Brainfuck. =/
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Piet > Br*infuck
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freehck: try the examples in the 'basics' section
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well, Arg is definitely simpler than cmdliner
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randomguy_ >
Hey. Is there (still) an OCaml compiler (or interpreter) not written in OCaml ?
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flux >
randomguy_, haven't heard of one..
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companion_cube >
the bytecode interpreter is written in C, but the bytecode compiler is in OCaml
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edwin: I've already.
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the annoying thing with cmdliner is that it's very strict on where --help should go -_-
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flux >
someone(TM) should make a succinct usage output for cmdliner
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randomguy_ >
Ok, thanks :)
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flux >
I think someone else mentioned this Christmas miracle wish some time ago as well :)
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companion_cube: seems to be a right behaviour if the program could be run as "PROG SUBCOMMAND --help" or "PROG --help"
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what do you people use to edit ocaml code in emacs?
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only sane thing I could find
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ely-se: really ?
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pierpa >
rks, thanks. Looking...
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pierpa: merlin-mode
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and compile-command is set to: vagrant ssh -c "cd /vagrant && bash build.bash" :3
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That is not a convenient setup
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why not? it works very well.
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edit code, hit F4 to run the tests, fix bugs, repeat.
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well, you are missing the editor goodies
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pierpa: it'd be the most sane variant to install it via melpa/marmelade. Merlin-mode which is distributed with opam is quite bad.
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pierpa: also you should know that you should write .merlin file in the root of your project where all the sources and build directories are listed.
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well now, that's just silly
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the merlin distributed with opam should be just fine
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freehck >
pierpa: and you must build you project to make merlin to validate types by fly because it uses information from build files.
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and installing merlin with emacs package system is just looking for trouble
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hmmm. Tuareg is outdated? I shouldn't spend time looking at it?
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no, tuareg is fine
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Drup >
you use it along the others (for syntax highlthing, mostly)
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lot of thinks to read. Thanks all for the pointers :)
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rks`: I remember I had some troubles with merlin-mode after installing it with opam. Maybe something has changed now.
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rks` >
OK, don't hesitate to open an issue on github when you encounter such problems!
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freehck >
rks`, pierpa: I'm very sorry, I've mistaken: the problems were specifically with marmelade merlin.
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rks` is right, the good way is to use merlin distributed with opam.
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pierpa >
ok. thanks
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did anyone had CamlinternalLazy.Undefined due to Lwt?
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Drup: can you explain why this fails: Lwt_process.with_process_full ~timeout:3. ("sleep", [| "sleep"; "5" |]) (fun p -> Lwt_io.read p#stdout ) |> Lwt_main.run;;
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No I can't :D
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but report it is then
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(I'm very slightly knowledgeable on Lwt's core semantics, don't ask me
*anything* about the unix-y things like io and processes)
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yeah, I understand
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