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<fds_> Drup: Oh?
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<mangooes> what channel can I ask n00b questions?
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<dmbaturin> mangooes: Technically, you can ask them in any channel, it's probability of getting an answer that varies. ;)
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<mangooes> I figured it out, sorta. :P
<mangooes> basically, i define a function: let square x = x * x;; this works fine for normal integers, but with a negative number, it throws an error int->int or something like that. calling it with square (-1);; works fine, though..
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<mangooes> is it basically saying naked -1 is .. ambiguous?
<mangooes> square -1;; <-- error square (-1);; <-- fine and dandy
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<damason> mangooes: I am not getting any error when I try that
<damason> mangooes: is there any other code around it? Can you share the exact error?
<damason> mangooes: never mind, I didn't look at what room I had selected, turns out it works fine in Elm, but that probably doesn't help you.
<damason> mangooes: I think in OCaml you need the parens to distinguish from trying to use `-`, so it seems like you could be trying to do `(-) square 1`.
<damason> mangooes: IIRC, that's just something you have to do when using negative number literals
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<reynir> mangooes: square - 1 is read as square subtracted with one
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<adrien> gasche_: :o
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<gasche> adrien: what do you think?
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<freehck`> people, i've realised that my merlin-mode in emacs knows nothing about Cmdliner module and it's blaming: unbound module Cmdliner.
<freehck`> what could I do in order to notify merlin about new external module?
<freehck`> I've already put #use "topfind" and #require "cmdliner" into ~/.ocamlinit
<freehck`> And when I start utop from a terminal I can just type "open Cmdliner;;".
<edwin> freehck`: https://github.com/the-lambda-church/merlin#merlin-project use a PKG entry in your .merlin
<freehck`> aaah
<freehck`> edwin: it works, thank you
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<adrien> gasche: well, I like it but I wish it had happened a bit earlier in the development cycle; that said, I know such decisions tend to arrive quite late
<adrien> "what do we need to do in order to release?" and that's when you think about splitting components again
<freehck> oh... cmdliner drives me crazy.
<freehck> couldn't it be easier?! =/
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<flux> when I begin a new project that makes use of cmdliner, I'll first check how I did it in the older project.. ;)
<flux> but, if you make it compile with cmdliner, chances are it works..
<freehck> flux: you know, I see how powerful this module is; but I'm reading the documentation already for 4 hours and can't understand it at last.
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<flux> well, play around with the examples?
<flux> I too tried to learn cmdliner by reading the manuals during a train trip, didn't go that well ;-)
<freehck> flux: I just wanted to ask the channel people whether there's some manual easier than it's examples? )
<flux> I'm afraid not. well, other people's code maybe.
<freehck> Oh... Maybe I should have write my project with Brainfuck. =/
<freehck> *written
<ely-se> Piet > Br*infuck
<edwin> freehck: try the examples in the 'basics' section
<companion_cube> well, Arg is definitely simpler than cmdliner
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<flux> here's my "semiadvanced example", but perhaps not very useful for you: https://github.com/eras/tgup/blob/master/src/main.ml
<randomguy_> Hey. Is there (still) an OCaml compiler (or interpreter) not written in OCaml ?
<flux> randomguy_, haven't heard of one..
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<edwin> https://github.com/dbuenzli/cmdliner/tree/master/test the examples from the docs can also be found there (revolt.ml, chorus.ml)
<companion_cube> the bytecode interpreter is written in C, but the bytecode compiler is in OCaml
<freehck> edwin: I've already.
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<companion_cube> the annoying thing with cmdliner is that it's very strict on where --help should go -_-
<flux> someone(TM) should make a succinct usage output for cmdliner
<randomguy_> Ok, thanks :)
<flux> I think someone else mentioned this Christmas miracle wish some time ago as well :)
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<freehck> companion_cube: seems to be a right behaviour if the program could be run as "PROG SUBCOMMAND --help" or "PROG --help"
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<pierpa> what do you people use to edit ocaml code in emacs?
<ely-se> text-mode
<ely-se> only sane thing I could find
<pierpa> hmmmmm
<Drup> ely-se: really ?
<ely-se> yes :3
<pierpa> rks, thanks. Looking...
<freehck> pierpa: merlin-mode
<pierpa> ty
<ely-se> and compile-command is set to: vagrant ssh -c "cd /vagrant && bash build.bash" :3
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<Drup> That is not a convenient setup
<ely-se> why not? it works very well.
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<ely-se> edit code, hit F4 to run the tests, fix bugs, repeat.
<Drup> well, you are missing the editor goodies
<freehck> pierpa: it'd be the most sane variant to install it via melpa/marmelade. Merlin-mode which is distributed with opam is quite bad.
<freehck> pierpa: also you should know that you should write .merlin file in the root of your project where all the sources and build directories are listed.
<rks`> well now, that's just silly
<rks`> the merlin distributed with opam should be just fine
<freehck> pierpa: and you must build you project to make merlin to validate types by fly because it uses information from build files.
<rks`> and installing merlin with emacs package system is just looking for trouble
<pierpa> hmmm. Tuareg is outdated? I shouldn't spend time looking at it?
<Drup> no, tuareg is fine
<pierpa> k
<Drup> you use it along the others (for syntax highlthing, mostly)
<pierpa> aha!
<rks`> as for everything else you just said freehck, it's mostly correct but is already explained here https://github.com/the-lambda-church/merlin/wiki/emacs-from-scratch#going-furter )
<pierpa> lot of thinks to read. Thanks all for the pointers :)
<pierpa> *things
<freehck> rks`: I remember I had some troubles with merlin-mode after installing it with opam. Maybe something has changed now.
<rks`> OK, don't hesitate to open an issue on github when you encounter such problems!
<freehck> rks`, pierpa: I'm very sorry, I've mistaken: the problems were specifically with marmelade merlin.
<freehck> rks` is right, the good way is to use merlin distributed with opam.
<pierpa> ok. thanks
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<rks`> :)
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<companion_cube> did anyone had CamlinternalLazy.Undefined due to Lwt?
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<companion_cube> Drup: can you explain why this fails: Lwt_process.with_process_full ~timeout:3. ("sleep", [| "sleep"; "5" |]) (fun p -> Lwt_io.read p#stdout ) |> Lwt_main.run;;
<Drup> No I can't :D
<companion_cube> :(
<companion_cube> but report it is then
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<Drup> (I'm very slightly knowledgeable on Lwt's core semantics, don't ask me *anything* about the unix-y things like io and processes)
<companion_cube> yeah, I understand
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