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playthatbeat>
#milkymist is 'invite only' - how to get an invite?
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aeris>
This channel was closed, it's succesor is here
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playthatbeat>
oright
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playthatbeat>
well im still looking for a manual for flickernoise..
* aeris
can't help you
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playthatbeat>
simple things like how to make a performance
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playthatbeat>
file management
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playthatbeat>
the ssd loop
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playthatbeat>
the keyboard bindings
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ysionneau>
playthatbeat: basically you put .fnp files in the "ssd" and then you can run them
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playthatbeat>
yes i have looked at the wiki, it's a start..
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ysionneau>
you can put files in the ssd either by FTP or NFS
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ysionneau>
or directly by typing them using a USB keyboard and USB mouse
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ysionneau>
and using the editor in the GUI
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playthatbeat>
ive been editing them in the GUI
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ysionneau>
that's the easiest way to start :)
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ysionneau>
to start playing with the syntax of the FNP language
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ysionneau>
then you just hit "run" and it's playing
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ysionneau>
if you have no syntax error
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playthatbeat>
sure, i have about 40 original patches
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playthatbeat>
mostly using video in combinations
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playthatbeat>
but it's hit & miss getting a performance to work
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playthatbeat>
maybe thru FTP things will look a little less confusing
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playthatbeat>
right now no matter what i do i cannot escape the same list of patches in aperformance
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playthatbeat>
also: hitting F1 in a patch causes the patch name to be displayed, f2 and f3 still show video in 2 and 3
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playthatbeat>
no idea how to disable this
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playthatbeat>
yes i compiled that pdf
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ysionneau>
ah ok so you have a better up to date version :)
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playthatbeat>
the download link is broken
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playthatbeat>
has been for a year
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playthatbeat>
so i had to lol
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ysionneau>
yes the links pointing to qi-hardware are slowing dying ....
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ysionneau>
slowly*
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ysionneau>
playthatbeat: about the list of patches to include in the performance, there is an option in the settings or something
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ysionneau>
you have several modes
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ysionneau>
I cannot tell you without having a look myself
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ysionneau>
but search a little bit in the options
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ysionneau>
there is something like "performance mode" maybe
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ysionneau>
or stage mode
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playthatbeat>
well it seems to be unpredictable
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ysionneau>
and you can bind patches to keyboard keys
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playthatbeat>
that does nto work
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ysionneau>
or maybe even to MIDI inputs if I'm not mistaken
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playthatbeat>
keyboard bindings fail
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playthatbeat>
they have no effect
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ysionneau>
Honestly I never tried the "performance mode" stuff
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playthatbeat>
all i want is to be running my patches, and to be able to skip thru them using the kb
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playthatbeat>
like f9 and f11
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ysionneau>
I only edit stuff in the editor and play with it
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playthatbeat>
hmmm
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playthatbeat>
but you think the target folder that a performance draws from is just /ssd
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playthatbeat>
so if i put my patches in /ssd then they should be available to me in a performance?
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playthatbeat>
let me try this with FTP
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ysionneau>
if you put them in /ssd then you will be able to use them from the Flickernoise GUI
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ysionneau>
and from it I think you can select which patch are included in the performance set
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ysionneau>
and bind to keys
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ysionneau>
but I honestly never tried
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ysionneau>
better ask lekernel or wpwrak about taht
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playthatbeat>
well i thought that also
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playthatbeat>
but bond to keys does not work
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playthatbeat>
*bind
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playthatbeat>
and building a performance set is also not possible
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ysionneau>
if I have time (and I have very little time) I might try to have a look at how it works during the week
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playthatbeat>
there is no button or option anywhere
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ysionneau>
but basically I would just search in the GUI interface
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ysionneau>
so you might be able to do the same as me
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playthatbeat>
so i ssume you build a performance by populating a folder on the ssd?
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ysionneau>
hummm I thought there was a way to make a list in the GUI somewhere ...
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playthatbeat>
im thinking maybe my firmware is corrupt
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playthatbeat>
it would explain the key bindings not working
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ysionneau>
have you tried the buttons on the PCB ?
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playthatbeat>
and the glitch hitting the f1 key
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playthatbeat>
the buttons?
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ysionneau>
there are 3 push buttons on the circuit board
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playthatbeat>
oh is there a 'factory restore' ?
* playthatbeat
looks
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ysionneau>
there is no "factory restore" but you can reflash your board
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playthatbeat>
lol DUDE
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ysionneau>
you don't even need to do it over jtag, you can push the binaries over FTP
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playthatbeat>
thats so helpfull
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ysionneau>
just drag'n'drop over FTP
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playthatbeat>
i am totally goign to do this right away
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ysionneau>
and run the update through the GUI
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ysionneau>
saying "update from FILE"
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playthatbeat>
yes i think it needs this
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playthatbeat>
because it's definatly not behaving properly
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playthatbeat>
i keep trying to use it more
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playthatbeat>
but it's been so annoying
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ysionneau>
maybe there is a bug, I don't know
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ysionneau>
maybe flashing it won't help
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ysionneau>
but you can give it a try anyway
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ysionneau>
you have the JTAG pod?
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ysionneau>
in case you break it :)
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playthatbeat>
i do have a jtag somewhere
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playthatbeat>
really need to start from scratch with it though
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playthatbeat>
so im goign to go with a firmware change, see what happens
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ysionneau>
"Update from files"
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playthatbeat>
this is failing
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playthatbeat>
ftp is going bananas
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playthatbeat>
cannot xfer the files to the device
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ysionneau>
make sure to be in the "/ssd" directory before trying to send anything
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playthatbeat>
ah just had to throttle my ftp client
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playthatbeat>
the milkymist likes 1 file at a time
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ysionneau>
ah, yes maybe :)
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playthatbeat>
wierd ther eis an /ssd inside /ssd
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playthatbeat>
*there is
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ysionneau>
hum hum
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playthatbeat>
well the UPDATE FROM TEH WEB seems to connect and check versions
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playthatbeat>
but it does not do much..
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ysionneau>
maybe it does nothing because (it thinks) you are up to date
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ysionneau>
and when you look via FTP in /ssd/ssd , can you see all the fnp patches?
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ysionneau>
or are the fnp files in /ssd/ ?
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ysionneau>
maybe try both (/ssd and /ssd/ssd) and do update from file (not from the web)
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ysionneau>
that should force the flashing
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playthatbeat>
gonna try that now
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playthatbeat>
my stupid browser renamed all the file downloads for the firmware a .bin
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playthatbeat>
so this caused some confusion..
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ysionneau>
better use wget for that :)
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playthatbeat>
done
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playthatbeat>
flashing now
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playthatbeat>
well it's not bricked lol
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playthatbeat>
made no diff to the f1 glitch
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playthatbeat>
now to do some file management
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playthatbeat>
try sort a performance
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playthatbeat>
this is brain damage
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playthatbeat>
it's unpredictable what it chooses to 'compile' for a performance
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ysionneau>
ok, let me have a look maybe this evening
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ysionneau>
if I don't get how it works by looking at the GUI, I could have a look at the source code
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playthatbeat>
well it;s bricked now
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playthatbeat>
goign down a firmware worked
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playthatbeat>
but it wouldnt compile alot of patches
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playthatbeat>
so i went back to latests formware
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playthatbeat>
and now it's bricked after the first reboot
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playthatbeat>
any instructions anywhere for how to use the jtag?
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playthatbeat>
wow rescue moe ftw
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playthatbeat>
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ysionneau>
playthatbeat: hey back
* ysionneau
from home now
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ysionneau>
playthatbeat: so, an older version of flickernoise allows you to do what exactly?
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(and which version exactly?)
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ysionneau>
good that you unbricked your M1 :)
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ysionneau>
(found after git bisecting during 9 steps)
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ysionneau>
and I tested on saturday the master HEAD and it was still broken
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ysionneau>
I might have a look during the week (or the week-end)