<Tooniis>
<parabyte "hi im listing mmc partitions in "> the number of sectors the partitions have?
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<parabyte>
apritzel, you about?
<parabyte>
im having an intense low iq day! i guess just woke up wrong side of the bed
<apritzel>
parabyte: those Android partitions are typically quite messy
<parabyte>
well what i dont understand is well the syntax for mmc read
<parabyte>
i figured out where in ram to put the data
<parabyte>
i figured out how to call the start sector
<parabyte>
but the count syntax is confusing me
<parabyte>
well specifically mmc part is confusing me
<apritzel>
just the number of sectors to read, in hex?
<parabyte>
im not understanding Num sectors apritzel
<parabyte>
yeah i understand hex
<parabyte>
im obviously missing something really basic
<parabyte>
let me explaoin what i did and you can laugh haha
<parabyte>
Part Start Sector Num Sectors UUID Type
<parabyte>
1 6397952 8937472 00000000-01 0b Boot
<parabyte>
so i subtracted num sectors from star sector
<parabyte>
then divided that number by 512
<apritzel>
why?
<parabyte>
i arrived at 4960
<apritzel>
that's already the number you are looking for
<parabyte>
i used that number as my count in reading the mmc
<parabyte>
oh so the count is 8937472
<apritzel>
it's not "end sector", it's number of sectors
<parabyte>
oh
<apritzel>
unhelpfully in decimal
<parabyte>
so i just convert 8937472 to hex and use that as my count while reading the data
<apritzel>
just make sure you don't exceed your memory and overwrite U-Boot
<parabyte>
hahahah
<parabyte>
apritzel, i used fat write last night to write data onto a removable sdcard
<apritzel>
on purpose U-Boot relocates itself to the end of DRAM
<parabyte>
so everything is working out
<parabyte>
i just got abit thick with the numbers on reading the onboard mmc
<apritzel>
yes, you just have to do in chunks of say 768 MB
<parabyte>
i have no idea why this trivial subject has confused me so much, numbers were never my forte unfortunately
<apritzel>
for instance this boot partition seems to be 4364 MB, for instance
<apritzel>
so you can't read this all at once into memory
<apritzel>
that's why I mentioned yesterday it may become tedious to do it this way
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<parabyte>
yeah my brain has clicked now apritzel
<parabyte>
apritzel, i must admit when i came to the 4960 number i was somewhat into my 7th beer !
<parabyte>
all seem very logical at the time!!
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<apritzel>
parabyte: just be warned that those partitions are somewhat weird, what I saw is them putting the extended partition table "trampoline" sectors right behind the MBR
<apritzel>
so you might be better off to just dump the whole eMMC, ignoring all partitions
<apritzel>
which seems much less error prone than doing this per partitions
<apritzel>
parabyte: so you do: mmc read 42000000 0 180000; fatwrite ... ; mmc read 42000000 180000 180000; fatwrite ...
<KotCzarny>
we should get remaining sunxi folks to libera
<KotCzarny>
and probably update the topic/logger bot
<apritzel>
KotCzarny: is there a pressing need, really?
<KotCzarny>
it's a bit hard to follow two servers
<apritzel>
a pressing need to move, I mean?
<apritzel>
I mean the letters from the (ex-)Freenode guys sound dramatic, but I wonder if we should wait a bit how this all works out at the end
<KotCzarny>
at the end we will get ads
<KotCzarny>
and i suspect for small project or individuals nothing much will change
<apritzel>
what makes you think so?
<KotCzarny>
the 'owner' is a businessman, he didnt get it to just look at it
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<apritzel>
so you have evidence that he will spam the users with ads?
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<KotCzarny>
nope, but my best bet would be on that
<KotCzarny>
apart from selling user data
<KotCzarny>
well, the evidence could be a the banner on the FN webpage that staff opposed to
<apritzel>
well, before we make any of the trillions linux-sunxi@Freenode pointers out there invalid, I wonder if we should have better reasons than some hunch
<KotCzarny>
the ownership changed, that's a fact
<apritzel>
some years ago, already
<KotCzarny>
old, trusted staff with privace ideals too
<KotCzarny>
*privacy
<apritzel>
but at the end it's a decision for ~183 people to make here
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<kveremitz>
apritzel: was it 183 on Monday?! :)
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<kveremitz>
minus bots ~180 :D
<KotCzarny>
ya
<KotCzarny>
lots of inactive sessions
<apritzel>
23 on Libera and 3 on OFTC
<kveremitz>
ok so the 'drift' hasn't really occurred here .. how many 'active' accounts .. I think the 20-odd could well be a proportion of that
<KotCzarny>
but mostly it depends how many active linuxsunxiers will switch
<kveremitz>
right
<kveremitz>
Its a hard judgement call, you don't want to push... yet like you say, fragmenting is worse
<kveremitz>
#thanksandrew
<KotCzarny>
the ones that's missing still is nitehawk, wens, mripard, moeicenowy
<kveremitz>
migrations suck :/ period
<apritzel>
.. and all the others that are asking questions ;-)
<KotCzarny>
those asking the questions just need the current pointer
<KotCzarny>
:)
<kveremitz>
there's a couple places running relay bots I've seen already
<kveremitz>
but thats not really a permanent solution
<libv>
existing freenode ops/owners are partially transferred already
<libv>
need to get whitequark in there still
<libv>
nickserv/chanserv there is slightly more primitive though
<libv>
but debian and gcc are there, and xorg is moving there
<libv>
verifying the nickserv registration is a bit of a mess on the services.oftc.net site
<anarsoul>
"/ns info <nickname>" works fine for me
<anarsoul>
it gets you an email and whether it was verified
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<[TheBug]>
really oftc?
<[TheBug]>
cmon now people gotta be on like 15 servers lol
<[TheBug]>
why not just move to Libera?
<libv>
[TheBug]: i know
<libv>
yesterday we had spamming one way there
<libv>
now i seem to be getting spammed here
<[TheBug]>
thats pretty much what Armbian, linux-raid, xen and such..
<[TheBug]>
did
<bauen1>
[TheBug]: my argument for oftc would be that it's now the most stable option
<libv>
i am very certain this will continue for the foreseeable future
<[TheBug]>
spammed?
<[TheBug]>
someone spamming your PM?
<PPA>
That MIDIPIX spam?
<libv>
about oftc, gcc is there, debian is there, xorg is now moving there
<[TheBug]>
yeah that midipix shit is stupid, some asshat piossed off his girlfriend and now shes trying to get even by spamming shit
<PPA>
I saw that spam on a number of different servers
<[TheBug]>
"<lalbornoz> yeah sorry about that im being targetted as part of a smear campaign of hatred theres a criminal investigation pending etc."
<PPA>
two small ones incl. my own, a channel on Rizon
<PPA>
Ah
<PPA>
Unfortunate
<[TheBug]>
his GF has mental issues
<[TheBug]>
I guess
<[TheBug]>
is what he was telling me
<PPA>
many such cases
<libv>
not that i want to drive everyone away here, but just want to get the word out there that if people want to move to another network, then oftc seems like the more stable water right now
<[TheBug]>
well most people will already be on libera and I am not yet sure I am up for adding an 7th network to my client just for linux-sunxi :/
<PPA>
My position is to wait a few days and see what new links people put in their freenode channel topics, then move over there
<libv>
PPA: the issue with that is that some projects will go oftc, some will go libera
<libv>
there is no avoiding that
<libv>
and if we pick one, half the people will complain about not having picked the other
<PPA>
Is that really a problem? I guess it depends on your client, but at least on all the ones I'm familiar with, once a server is set up all it does is take up one additional line in the sidebar
<[TheBug]>
lol it is when you are already on 6 active networks with tons of channels, ends up being ignored
<PPA>
Eh, I'd say that's more a matter of being in too many channels
<PPA>
(of which I'm guilty too)
<[TheBug]>
well here is my final argument -- Armbian is moving to Libera and we often like to suggest for allwinner issues people join here, which will become a little more difficult to do
<[TheBug]>
I mean may be nicer as it will be more quiet lol
<[TheBug]>
but also means some people will just bail because barrier to entry
<[TheBug]>
that would be my concern
<[TheBug]>
but again, your decision ;p
<[TheBug]>
im done for now ;)
<PPA>
Hm, that makes sense
<libv>
the possibility of big turmoil on oftc is the least of all 3 options
<PPA>
armbian, linux-sunxi, linux-rockchip, libreelect and a few others porbably cluster together and are wont to attract newbies
<PPA>
I don't see anything in #libreelec or on their forums about moving
<swiftgeek>
i saw some community hopefully only joking about moving to discord, and with that in context oftc doesn't seem to be a bad choice xD
<parabyte>
i do not like armbian debian much better experience
<libv>
swiftgeek: this is the really annoying thing about this whole mess
<libv>
and i am quite annoyed at this, i have been using irc since 1998, and freenode was the only useful network left, and now this
<KotCzarny>
well, there is also ircnet, but its for general ircing
<libv>
when i started lima, i started on android 2.1
<libv>
and i got to deal with forums, full of "android image developers"
<KotCzarny>
thing is, people will go where you point them to
<PPA>
I don't think this is going to be the death knell for IRC entirely since most people who still use IRC nowadays are committed to it, but I could see a lot of freenode users shifting to matrix or Discord instead
<swiftgeek>
but /invite is easier on the same server
<KotCzarny>
and the regulars should chose one place imo
<swiftgeek>
same for nick correlation
<libv>
and sadly this is where some people end up
<KotCzarny>
because following 3 servers for the same channel is tedious at least
<bauen1>
i doubt this little even will be able to invalidate an xkcd https://xkcd.com/1782/ ...
<bauen1>
*event
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<swiftgeek>
slack already removed irc bridge, and with move to discord i would be afraid of similar thing happening (and it rubs me wrong way to switch to proprietary thing)
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<karlp>
fwiw, slack at least has a documented websockets api, and weechat has a plugin for it, so it all ~mostly just works transparently. they just got rid of the irc protocol bridge.
<karlp>
(IMO, oftc is a good choice, avoid the drama of this current fiasco entirely)
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<karlp>
oftc has a webchat thingy too, if armbian people just need to point to "support"