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<hexdump01> tuxd3v: for me lima sometimes works without any xorg.conf changes and sometimes something like https://github.com/hexdump0815/imagebuilder/blob/experimental/files/extra-files/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d.samples/13-lima-sunxi.conf (and around) is needed
<hexdump01> tuxd3v: i think it depends a bit on the loading order of the different drm driver levels (i.e. which is =y or =m) ... this is working well for me with regular xorg
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<warpme_> tuxd3v: maybe like this https://github.com/warpme/minimyth2/blob/master/script/meta/minimyth/files/source/rootfs/etc/X11/xorg.conf (remove all lines beg with @XXX_TRUE@ except lines 116..121) + 125 set to "Device_sun4i"?
<warpme_> lines 111..121 i was meant
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<maz> apritzel: where is your kvmtool tree these days, now that l-a.org is no more?
<maz> apritzel: I assume that's the gitlab thing, as I found the NV branch there...
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<apritzel> maz: or are you looking for another branch?
<maz> apritzel: nah, that's the one I needed. stupidly overwrote the lkvm binary on my FVP fs, needed to rebuild it, and couldn't find a local copy of it.
<maz> apritzel: now back up and running, I guess I'll spam you with a NV update post -rc1.
<apritzel> maz: ah, was my next question, happy to test it again
<maz> apritzel: I've pushed out kvm-arm64/nv-5.13-WIP, which I'll rebase again atop -rc1 once it is out.
<maz> apritzel: if you still have access to the HW, feedback most welcome.
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<apritzel> maz: great, thanks, will give it a spin later this week
<maz> apritzel: for the model, there's a boot-wrapper update required, which I have posted on LAK.
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<maz> apritzel: thanks for that.
<apritzel> maz: thanks, but I am using mainline Trusted Firmware on that FPGA these days, and SCR_EL3.FGTEn seems to be handled there already
<maz> apritzel: yeah, I expect this affects only users of the model (and I don't think your FPGA has FGT anyway).
<maz> anyway, enough work on a bank holiday... :D
<apritzel> indeed!
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<tuxd3v> sunshavi, I tried it in Olimex Lime2, but I don't know it seems unusable
<tuxd3v> even the mouse cursor in the screen was in slow motion
<tuxd3v> glxgears on the other hand gave me around 55 fps
<anarsoul> tuxd3v: what's in Xorg.0.log?
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<anarsoul> tuxd3v: what about glxinfo?
<tuxd3v> glxinfo gives me direct rendering yes
<anarsoul> please share complete output
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<pnill> apritzel: For clarification that winbond's data sheet says it is SLC.
<pnill> haven't gotten around to playing with it yet and probably won't for at least a month or two
<pnill> but thought that was interesting, so I'm wondering if I can like 'dual' boot in some way between linux mainline off USB, and normal via a custom u-boot written to the nand
<sunshavi> tuxd3v, did u istalled xorg-server-git?
<tuxd3v> no
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<apritzel> pnill: have a look at http://linux-sunxi.org/Mainline_NAND_Howto, and for U-Boot check the CHIP_pro_defconfig
<tuxd3v> I am compiling Lima like this:
<anarsoul> tuxd3v: please share complete glxinfo output
<apritzel> pnill: I can't be bothered with BSP kernels at all, but you might be able to load a 32-bit BSP kernel from mainline U-Boot, maybe
<tuxd3v> /opt/meson-0.58.0/meson.py ./build --buildtype plain --libdir lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf --localstatedir /var/lib --prefix /usr --sysconfdir /etc --wrap-mode nodownload -Dplatforms=x11 -Dllvm=disabled -Dlmsensors=disabled -Dlibunwind=disabled -Dgallium-nine=false -Dgallium-va=disabled -Dgallium-vdpau=disabled -Dgallium-xa=disabled -Dgallium-xvmc=disabled -Dgallium-opencl=disabled -Dbuild-tests=false -Dglx=dri -Dshared-glapi=enabled
<tuxd3v> -Ddri3=enabled -Degl=enabled -Dgbm=enabled -Dgles1=disabled -Dgles2=enabled -Dglvnd=false -Dselinux=false -Dvalgrind=disabled -Ddri-drivers= -Dgallium-drivers=lima,kmsro,swrast
<tuxd3v> I am using '-Dgallium-vdpau=disabled' but in xorg it loads it :/
<tuxd3v> I am compiling now lima with '--buildtype minsize'
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<tuxd3v> anarsoul, this is my 'xorg.conf':
<anarsoul> *sigh*
<anarsoul> I'm asking for glxinfo output
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<tuxd3v> anarsoul, yeah, but I am in ssh now, building again lime optimized for size :/
<pnill> apritzel: if not, I was hoping I could jump to the stock u-boot
<pnill> from the mainline u-boot
<anarsoul> slow cursor indicates that you're running ~2yo mesa
<tuxd3v> I will give you thaformation when I will running xserver again :)
<pnill> I just want the normal boot process to still be available, and then when USB is present boot off that.
<apritzel> pnill: you might be able to chainload U-Boot (with bootm)
<tuxd3v> I am runninf '21.0.3' version
<tuxd3v> running*
<pnill> I'll have to give it a shot when I get around to playing with that PCB.
<anarsoul> tuxd3v: you seems to be running debian and I suspect that it already has mesa installed and it's likely quite old version
<anarsoul> that fact that you're building it by hands indicates that you're not building and installing a replacement deb-package
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<anarsoul> so it's very likely that you're using mesa that's shipped with your system, not the one you built
<tuxd3v> anarsoul, it could be. I have this mesa packages:
<anarsoul> just get a newer distro for you board?
<tuxd3v> should I remove this mesa packages?
<anarsoul> tuxd3v: you'll likely break your system further if you uninstall these packages
<tuxd3v> I am using debian stable
<apritzel> megi: I did some experiments with U-Boot's MMC driver, and indeed the transfer speed is mostly limited by the SoC's MMIO "speed"
<apritzel> megi: on the A64 I get 21.7 MB/s, which is about the speed of a standard (3.3v) SD card
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<anarsoul> tuxd3v: it just means that you're running outdated software
<apritzel> megi: I enabled DDR50 for eMMC, but the rate didn't change, as it's already maxed out
<apritzel> megi: the speed depends on the SoC, and probably mostly the AHB bus speed, the H6 only runs at 100MHz, so it's also just 9.6 MB/s there
<anarsoul> mesa-18 is from 2018
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<tuxd3v> so I am running a old version..
<apritzel> megi: dauntlessly bumping that up to 200 MHz improves the speed, but just to about 15MB/s
<tuxd3v> don't know how to solve the problem..
<anarsoul> tuxd3v: is there any specific reason why you need to use debian stable?
<tuxd3v> well yes its my distribution.. but I tough that I could compile a new lima driver and everything will be ok..
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<tuxd3v> it seems that there are dependencies older that doesn't permit it..
<apritzel> Debian stable is nice if you want an uninspired, but, well, stable system, but not a good choice for latest features
<apritzel> tuxd3v: maybe Debian offers backported packages for latest mesa?
<anarsoul> apritzel: the issue is that lima was merged into mesa-19.1 and evolved quite a bit since then
<megi> apritzel: on H6 it's limited by a wrong clock setup too
<megi> otherwise it would be 22MiB/s, too
<apritzel> anarsoul: I understand, but I think you can basically pull a lot of packages in from -testing
<apritzel> megi: mmh, I think I fixed that, but let me double check
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<anarsoul> that'll probably defeat the purpose of using -stable
<apritzel> anarsoul: indeed!
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<apritzel> megi: I figured that AHB1 runs at 100MHz only, whereas it's 200 MHz on the A64
<megi> no, it's some mmc clock
<tuxd3v> apritzel, nope in the backports are 18.3.6 version :(
<anarsoul> tuxd3v: just get another SD card and try e.g. armbian to see if you get acceptable performance?
<megi> I don't remember, but I have a fix in my branch for that, maybe it's this one https://megous.com/git/u-boot/commit/?h=opi-v2020.07&id=a5e72c4e0e6360595ceef4fe591c7ed7e9f45c8b
<apritzel> megi: yeah, I picked many changes from your branch, but didn't have much luck with the clock doubling
<apritzel> megi: that seems to be independent of new_mode, but it's more a property of the SoC's MMC mod clock
<megi> not sure it will work alone, or with the latest u-boot
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<apritzel> megi: so the H5 does not have that hidden /2 postdiv, for instance, but it has new_mode
<tuxd3v> anarsoul, indeed the system have dependencies and if I remove the old ones it also removes essential xorg packages :/
<megi> some clocks are sourced from pll 4x instead of 2x, (but the code assumes otherwise), and it only works because of differences in new/old mode and some defaults in some pll and mmc registers. And these defaults differ across socs. I barely remember, but I think user manuals are correct in the description of clock dividers for mmc.
<megi> and some hidden internal pre-dividers in mmc block, that's only enabled in new mode, or whatever
<megi> it's a bit of a mess :)
<megi> even kernel clock driver has it wrong
<megi> but it works by accident
<megi> next time I should be more verbose in my code comments, documenting my findings
<apritzel> megi: I fixed the wrong PLL6 factors already
<megi> I barely understand now what I meant by all those numbers :)
<megi> it's not just factors, that's just a small offset
<apritzel> so maybe that disables the "works by accident" feature
<megi> right?
<megi> or was it halving the freq?
<apritzel> yes
<apritzel> PLL6 vs. PLL6x2
<apritzel> on some SoCs
<megi> allright then
<apritzel> megi: well, just wanted to give you a heads up
<apritzel> it gets quite messy, because every SoC seems to be special in some regard
<megi> thanks :)
<apritzel> so if I get ~20MB/s on every SoC, having DMA sounds less tempting
<megi> anyway, for whatever reason my Orange Pi 3's U-Boot runs at 23MiB/s
<apritzel> but lower than there might be a good reason
<apritzel> megi: yeah, I will double that again
<apritzel> I am juggling boards and patches here like crazy, I might have messed something up
<megi> tell me :)
<apritzel> and the H616 eMMC is unreliable, I can read max. 6 sectors at the default settings
<apritzel> though halving the clock seems to fix that
<apritzel> so there might be more peculiarities with the H616 ...
<apritzel> (or probably just me being stupid somewhere)
<apritzel> megi: you mentioned the kernel clock driver has it wrong as well, can you say where (which SoC)?
<apritzel> megi: because I figured that the kernel is right, and I have little to no problems in Linux
<apritzel> I think clock doubling/halving can be easily detected by looking at the transfer speed
<apritzel> for instance I hacked in the clock doubling into the H5 MMC clocks, and it was wrong, the SD card speed was too fast for HS/4bit@50MHz
<megi> clock doubling is offset by the internal divider in the mmc block, so it works in the end
<megi> it's H5
<apritzel> megi: for A64 and H6: yes, but the H5 does not have this internal divider, apparently
<megi> H5, despite having new mode ...
<apritzel> yeah, that's the code I dissected and applied in separate patches to my playground branch
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<megi> in Linux parent is periph0, but it should be periph0_2x https://megous.com/dl/tmp/434824fb167e3f49.png
<megi> it's differnt from H3
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<megi> it only works with H3 CCU code because H5 has by default new clock mode
<megi> or some such
<apritzel> megi: ah, good point! The H5 shares the H3 clocks, but that's indeed the difference
<apritzel> yeah, that's where I hacked in my experiment
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<apritzel> right, the manuals confirm that different clock source
<apritzel> megi: do you have any indication why this is still wrong in the kernel?
<apritzel> we have separate mmc nodes between the H5 and H3 .dtsi already, so referring to different clocks should not be a big problem
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<pnill> apritzel: have you ever heard of "softwinter" in reference to android running on an allwinner device?
<apritzel> pnill: no, but in general: Android = BSP kernel = I cannot be bothered
<pnill> ahh
<pnill> lol alright
<apritzel> pnill: I just played a bit with USB gadgets in Linux, using configfs
<apritzel> pnill: was there something that didn't work for you?
<pnill> none of it worked
<pnill> the device would be in peripheral mode and etc.
<pnill> and the device/gadget side
<pnill> wouldn't report any errors
<pnill> but the host side wouldn't see anything
<apritzel> mmh, worked fine for me now, with serial, Ethernet and mass storage all at once
<apritzel> on an H5 device with a proper OTG config, though, so ID-DET and friends
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<tuxd3v> anarsoul, here it is my glxinfo:
<tuxd3v> I compiled mesa lima '21.0.3' for 'minsize', and the difference is night and day, the cursor can now moove a lot faster, but it still flicker a bit..
<tuxd3v> also in glxgears at each second there are a small freeze of the gears on the screen then it resumes fast.. around 59fps
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<anarsoul> tuxd3v: cursor flickers because there's no hw cursor support in sun4i-drm
<anarsoul> it's not a lima issue
<tuxd3v> ho, its possible to implement it or by design it doesn't have it?
<tuxd3v> anarsoul, why do you think that at each second that passes(its aligned with the seconds..), the gears stop, and rapidly they return there work..
<tuxd3v> like frames dropped at each second..
<anarsoul> tuxd3v: there's no dedicated cursor plane. sun4i-drm exposes all available planes, but since none is marked as cursor x11 doesn't attempt to use them
<anarsoul> megi had some patches to mark one of planes as cursor but I don't remember where they are, maybe he can share a link
<anarsoul> as for frame drops - no idea, check top output, maybe some process activates once a second to do something
<apritzel> pnill: I think I see what you mean: setting dr_mode to peripheral doesn't really work as expected: the PHY gets routed to the HCI, not to the MUSB
<pnill> apritzel: on an H6 device?
<pnill> and I'm guessing PHY would've been the larger ports.. not the OTG port?
<apritzel> pnill: I guess everywhere, this in on a Pine64-LTS (A64, but very similar USB situation)
<tuxd3v> anarsoul, many thanks, that could be well the case with some processes :)
<apritzel> on both A64 and H6 the port 0 pins are shared between an EHCI host controller and the MUSB, and the mux switch needs to be setup properly
<apritzel> the Allwinner USB PHY code does that, but the upper layers always ask for host
<tuxd3v> But clearly there are a huge diference between building it --buildtype 'plain' or --bluidtype 'minsize', minsize is the best option :)
<apritzel> pnill: I see the dr_mode property being initially recognised as peripheral, but still the USB core asks for host mode, and the PHY driver happily sets that up
<pnill> so, I don't know if that's what was happening to me but I was able to set it up
<pnill> setup the configfs
<pnill> got no errors, it said it set it all up
<pnill> then it wouldn't work/show anything
<pnill> even with dr_mode in peripheral instead of otg
<apritzel> yes, exactly the same I am seeing now
<apritzel> configfs setup works apparently, but nothing on the host
<apritzel> which is understandable because the pins are routed to the HCI
<apritzel> pnill: you could try to replicate the sun50i-h5-orangepi-pc2.dts setup, it was working there for me
<apritzel> the logic in sun4i_usb_phy0_get_id_det() looks correct to me, but somehow the MUSB core (or some other code) seems to explicitly ask for host mode - and gets it
<megi> also the two patches around it are useful if you're going to be playing with planes https://megous.com/git/linux/log/?h=drm-5.12
<apritzel> pnill: there is a "mode" file in /sys/devices/platform/soc/1c19000.usb/musb-hdrc.2.auto, according to the code this can force any mode
<pnill> apritzel: I don't need it anymore, as I'd gotten what I needed working (SSH/networking) but it'd be nice to know if there is a fix.
<pnill> incase I run into it again in the future
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<apritzel> pnill: aha, so if I disable OHCI0/EHCI0, the PHY setup works as expected
<apritzel> so it's basically the host controller and the MUSB fighting over the PHY, and the HCI is always winning
<pnill> so you have to dsiable the standard stuff?
<pnill> *disable
<pnill> That'd actually be cool to implement in my 'hack' tool for that PCB
<pnill> because then I could get progress over SSH or something
<pnill> using my C# app I was talking about
<apritzel> at least that seems to fix the PHY setup code, my debug messages show now that it's doing the right thing
<pnill> have you tried plugging it into a host?
<apritzel> however I still don't see it on a host :-(
<apritzel> oh wait
<apritzel> it is there! just at the top of lsusb ...