<fALSO>
and if you open a browser, it becomes useless
<fALSO>
:(
<tuxd3v>
well optimizations nowadays are a lot for x86
<fALSO>
yap, it kinda ruins the experience
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<fALSO>
its cool in paper, but i dont think we are quite there yet
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<fALSO>
but... this is just my opinion ;-)
<tuxd3v>
I think you right
<fALSO>
a friend of mine bought the TERES ARM laptop
<tuxd3v>
its dificult to get decent performance with people oriented for x86
<fALSO>
its cool if you like hacking and building kernels and stuff, but its not good for everyday usage
<anarsoul>
A64 is just underpowered
<tuxd3v>
fALSO, what is the Idea you have about Teres?
<tuxd3v>
ha ok
<anarsoul>
A53 @1.152GHz is just slow
<fALSO>
from what he told me, he ahsnt turned it on in a few months :-P
<fALSO>
so ... hehe
<tuxd3v>
yeah, I think I got the Idea..
<anarsoul>
also there's no GPU driver, lima is still in works
<fALSO>
i also got a rockpro64
<tuxd3v>
me too :D
<fALSO>
its almost there to run X
<anarsoul>
rockpro64 is *much* faster
<fALSO>
but playing youtube and stuff still lags
<fALSO>
yes
<anarsoul>
also it has 4 A53 and 2 A72 cores
<fALSO>
i installed gentoo on mine :-))))))))
<anarsoul>
should be OK with panfrost
<tuxd3v>
thats why that powerpc laptop is beast compared with rk3399
<fALSO>
its *that* fast
<fALSO>
but the kernel support is much worse than allwinner
<tuxd3v>
but then you have the downside of Big Endin, which is dificult to optimize code for since everything nowadasy os thinking in x86..
<anarsoul>
it's just a shame that SoC vendors still working on their BSP kernels instead of contributing into mainline u-boot/linux/ATF
<fALSO>
y anarsoul :(
<tuxd3v>
yep
<fALSO>
mostly yhe problems with brwosers ar the ram
<anarsoul>
yeah
<anarsoul>
:)
<fALSO>
when they start to get 8gb of ram
<fALSO>
it will be fine
<anarsoul>
no browser supports linux as 1st-class platform
<tuxd3v>
I beliebve that, Allwinner H6, is a good candidate for a 11" laptop
<anarsoul>
e.g. no hw video decoding
<tuxd3v>
for lower power stuff
<fALSO>
i use linux at work
<tuxd3v>
clocked at 1.8Ghz ofcourse..
<fALSO>
chroium
<fALSO>
everything runs ok
<fALSO>
anarsoul, you meant arm linux? or linux in general?
<anarsoul>
in general
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<anarsoul>
browsers just got GPU acceleration recently in linux
<anarsoul>
hw video decoding is still missing
<fALSO>
i use it daily, never noticed :-P
<fALSO>
gotta check cpu usage when playing youtube
<fALSO>
its a laptop with intel gpu
<anarsoul>
it's OK if you have powerful CPU :) 5-7 yo x86 is still faster than modern ARMs
<tuxd3v>
what anarsoul say its true, but it got a lot better in recent years
<fALSO>
i thin the cpu is an i5 4th gen
<fALSO>
or something
<tuxd3v>
yes that is ok
<anarsoul>
yeah, I use x230 with 3th gen i5, it's pretty fast
<anarsoul>
also clocked at 2.6 GHz :)
<anarsoul>
also keep in mind that A53 is in-order CPU. So i5@1GHz is *way* faster than A53@1GHz
<fALSO>
yap, thats too much stuff to my brain
<tuxd3v>
indeed
<fALSO>
to understand that :-P
<anarsoul>
also x86 has more cache
<tuxd3v>
but i5 also has a lot bigger caches :)
<fALSO>
hhehe
<tuxd3v>
:D
<tuxd3v>
fAlso, does you succeded to compile the mainline 5.4 kernel?
<anarsoul>
ARM A72 is pretty decent
<anarsoul>
just compare rockpro64 to pine h64 :)
<tuxd3v>
I have to still look into de dts file
<tuxd3v>
lol
<fALSO>
hum, i need to find an extra sdcard
<tuxd3v>
go to fnac you will find plenty of them :)
<tuxd3v>
cheap ones
<fALSO>
hehe
<karlp>
if you want BE, raptor talosII definitely has the performance.
<tuxd3v>
lol
<tuxd3v>
talosII almost cost the same as a car
<fALSO>
damn
<karlp>
well, you can't complain about the perf
<karlp>
depends how many cores and ram you want too, it's pricy, but not wildly unreasonable compared to workstation stuff.
<fALSO>
im saving to buy a new computer.. and 1000€ seems expensive, imagine paying the price of a car ...lol
<karlp>
well, "price of a car" is pretty open really...
<tuxd3v>
yeah...heheh the price os a RC- toy car
<tuxd3v>
:D
<fALSO>
i like to play games so it had to be a normal pc ;-D hehe
<tuxd3v>
alien arena
<tuxd3v>
:)
<fALSO>
i play DOOM 2 hehe
<tuxd3v>
heheh
<tuxd3v>
actually some year ago, I was adicted to Alien Arena, I got in the #6 rank, and finally after years trying entered to the most prestigious clan..
<fALSO>
someone a few days ago was talking about somethint like, a remote controlled "power plugs"
<tuxd3v>
I cannot afford the time to be at that level..
<fALSO>
it would be nice to connect all my boards to something like that
<fALSO>
and be able to power on or off remotely
<fALSO>
hehe
<tuxd3v>
PDU ?
<tuxd3v>
:D
<fALSO>
proabably
<tuxd3v>
you can do one yourself
<tuxd3v>
Power Distribution unit, something like that
<fALSO>
i dont have much skill with diy ;-D
<fALSO>
just on the computer hehe
<fALSO>
im useless outside of the computer
<tuxd3v>
:)
<tuxd3v>
I am still trying to earn some courage to compile graphics driver for H6
<fALSO>
mesa ?
<tuxd3v>
yeah
<fALSO>
i have a script for it, that someone shared with me
<fALSO>
wait
<tuxd3v>
root@OnePlus:~# uname -a
<tuxd3v>
Linux OnePlus 5.3.10 #3 SMP PREEMPT Tue Nov 12 19:17:41 WET 2019 aarch64 GNU/Linux