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<ullbeking> 07:10 <montjoie> since intel does not give datasheet, I see no interest
<ullbeking> does allwinner give datasheets?
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<KotCzarny> ullbeking: yes, buggy, but yes, it does
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<ullbeking> KotCzarny: montjoie: now that I think about it, I wonder why everybody is going crazy for atomic pi in the first place. There is a whole new world of possibility emerging, so why not try something different for a change?
<KotCzarny> because rarely you find someone to do same sisyphus work again?
<KotCzarny> and if vendor doesnt help, then there's nothing new.
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<gaston1980> hi to all, im making my own board for V3s and I want to know if its possible to use 1.2V 1A for Vcore, 1.8V 1A for Vdram and 3.3V 1A for Vcc. Searching I found other use 1.2A for Vcore and Vdram.
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<[TheBug]> gaston1980: there is a dev in here that has experience with v3s but not always around, so my suggestion would be to wait around and see if someone can answer. Often times in different time zones so could be several hours before they are even awake/around.
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<[TheBug]> gaston1980: I would assume the best resource who be checking the data sheet for v3s though
<[TheBug]> gaston1980: also keep in mind its the weekend and not all are here during the weekend
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<gaston1980> weel Im reading datasheet chapter 9, and looking for current values
<gaston1980> only Voltage levels
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<ullbeking> KotCzarny: i would assume that the person porting (or whatever) to the different ISA or SBC actually _enjoys_ the work and/or isn't burned out by it yet. also, if the vendor isn't helpful then indeed it's not much fun, but i don't know of too many libre computing devices where the vendor makes such things difficult for their developers.
<ullbeking> anyway, i just found a few good candidates for my application
<ullbeking> but thank you for your help KotCzarny
<KotCzarny> enjoying is one thing, feeding the family is another
<ullbeking> oh i'm in the latter camp
<KotCzarny> and most people have work
<KotCzarny> so it's up to hobby time
<ullbeking> KotCzarny: i doubt that you'd be interested in my life story to begin with, but i suppose that this channel isn't really the place for me to go into all the ups and downs or career issues, is it?
<ullbeking> but to summarize, sometimes various things help me to reinvigorate, or to get inspired again
<KotCzarny> :)
<ullbeking> :-)
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<ullbeking> learning firmware engineering, even though i'm still pretty much at beginner level, has been a HUGE part of reminding why i got into computing in the first place. learning Libreboot, coreboot, OpenBMC, OPi, etc, have all been critical to that.
<ullbeking> i'll leave it there
<ullbeking> :-)
<KotCzarny> ya. toys
<ullbeking> serious toys
<KotCzarny> that's why linux-sunxi is a big thing
<KotCzarny> you can get to the basics, write bare metal apps
<KotCzarny> etc
<ullbeking> exactly
<KotCzarny> or just go with full blown linux
<ullbeking> it's why i love my OPi +2E's so much
<ullbeking> and why mt X200 is my best and favorite computer
<ullbeking> my*
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<ullbeking> ok, i really should stop. this is totally OT.
<ullbeking> :-)
<ullbeking> have a great day. i'm going to do some stuff on the debian installer now.
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<swiftgeek> ullbeking: just mind that g_dbgp doesn't work yet on it :)
<swiftgeek> can't find axp20x soft start patch
<swiftgeek> on some LDO that is connected to wifi module, so maybe dt-related
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<swiftgeek> ah > dt-bindings: mfd: axp20x: Add software based soft_start for AXP209 LDO3
<swiftgeek> i guess it didn't propage to Q8 dts
<swiftgeek> *propagate
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<swiftgeek> so something like this would add the property ?
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<xqdzn> extract linux kernel > patched it > copy config to .config > patch .config with "make $args sunxi_defconfig" > make $args zImage > make $args dtbs > make $args modules > make $args INSTALL_MOD_PATH=../modules modules_install > copied zImage, dtb file, modules to board's sdcard > boot > mkinitcpio -k 5.3.0-rc6-TSM -g /boot/initramfs-linux.img
<xqdzn> do i missed something?
<swiftgeek> this ended up working http://dpaste.com/1Q7YRA8.txt across few tests
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<swiftgeek> not sure how should I configure sun4i-codec in alasamixer for best sound with mono speaker
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<ullbeking> swiftgeek: oh man
<ullbeking> i used to be an expert in alsamixer
<ullbeking> it was my #1 tool when i was hacking on the envy24 driver
<ullbeking> i should have kept doing that stuff
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<swiftgeek> welp in in case of sun4i-codec it just doesn't add up for me, especially right/left mixer with left having just left dac while right has both L/R
<swiftgeek> i have no idea what L/R means at this point
<libv> ullbeking: is via still doing sound chips these days?
<libv> so some level of cynical interest is still remaining in the activities of that broken company
* hellsenberg has an asus kfsn4-dre with a XGI Volari video thing
<libv> azalia codecs is a standard for... hdmi/hda audio codecs?
<libv> so it must be at least from 2006
<hellsenberg> azalia is a standard for HDA, iirc
<hellsenberg> in any case, via's website lists audio stuff as legacy
<libv> all that will remain of them is the mini-itx form factor
<libv> bad execution, start to finish
<libv> *sigh*
<swiftgeek> hellsenberg: ~original codename for hda
<hellsenberg> ah yes, the vx900 chipset stuff
<hellsenberg> I thought it was much older than it really is; it uses DDR3
<libv> vx900 is pretty recent from where i sit
<libv> cle266 is when they integrated some s3 savage descendant after their buyout of s3
<libv> their first mini-itxes were based on PLE233, which integrated a trident graphics block
<libv> they actually shipped the MVP4 before that
<libv> which they marketed as VIAGra
<libv> 6 months before viagra hit the market
<hellsenberg> such a bad timing
<libv> ah, also trident
<libv> like allwinner, they could've been relevant still
<libv> if they had done some things differently
<libv> like actually back open source development with more than just horrible code
<libv> +drops
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<ullbeking> libv: does via still exist?
<hellsenberg> it still doese
<ullbeking> wow
<ullbeking> ahhhhh
<ullbeking> i think i know of one company that sells loads of via stuff...
<ullbeking> idk about their involvement with audio chipset these days
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<hellsenberg> libv: ah, I see: https://www.x.org/docs/via/
<swiftgeek> ullbeking: they had some strange spinoff
<libv> hellsenberg: as a reaction to the docs release by us at RadeonHD
<hellsenberg> heh
<libv> which also triggered intel releasing docs
<hellsenberg> intel doc release died out though.
<libv> after a very long time though
<libv> the ati docs dried out the second the radeonhd project was cancelled
<libv> ati was against it from day one
<hellsenberg> ouch
<hellsenberg> I can't see anything for braswell graphics, or even things for intel stuff from the past 3 years
<libv> only the shader isa was being released still, as that's kind of a prerequisite for gpgpu computing
<libv> and amd had in the meantime created a fresh team to work on that
<libv> anyway, the only reason why via did so was to match what one of their biggest critics was doing on another family of chips
<libv> and to support openchrome, who forked away from me and my crazy ideas, like modesetting
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<ullbeking> "Open Graphics Programming Manual" what does THAT mean
<ullbeking> "open" could mean ANYTHING these days
<hellsenberg> ideally, should be information on how to program a GPU so that it works
<hellsenberg> in practice... whatever
<libv> yeah
<libv> no real 2d or 3d accel there
<libv> no media decoding
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<hellsenberg> great, so the VX900 datasheet bitrotted away
<libv> it never sold much anyway
<libv> cn700/cx700m was one of the last northbridges that was somewhat relevant
<libv> oh, and p4m890 and k8m890 was one of the last chipsets for other cpu makers that actually sold, somewhat
<libv> then the via was pushed out of the market
<hellsenberg> ah yes, I have had some P4M890
<libv> incidentally, you, as a coreboot person, k8m890 on the asus m2v-mx se was the first fully working fully native coreboot display driver
<libv> making the m2v-mx se the first fully supported devices with no blobs
<libv> my unichrome driver was able to bring up cle266/km400 since 2007 without it being initialized by a pci/vga bios
<libv> but that plainly booted into a vga text mode on the vga connector, out of the box
<libv> i also think that the first commercially useful igp was vias devices with a built in trident
<libv> then there was the mini-itx
<libv> so via had a few firsts
<libv> and now it is on htc life-support
<libv> since... a decade
<hellsenberg> htc?
<libv> the phone company, amongst others
<libv> via is a pet project for a family member of the owners of htc
<hellsenberg> O_o
<libv> they're just waiting for nvidia to buy them out really
<libv> but sadly nvidia does not need an x86 license
<hellsenberg> they have arm licenses already?
<libv> and the s3tc patent expired
* hellsenberg notices the "Controversies" wikipedia page section
<libv> so there is no "IP" there
<hellsenberg> so it's IP without the P now?
<hellsenberg> I wonder if s3tc patent being expired means it can be used for new chips now
<libv> not sure people still need it
<libv> and the hw often supported it, as they do license these sorts of things
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