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<KotCzarny> hrm
<KotCzarny> 8x a53?
<KotCzarny> how hot that thing is going to get?
<KotCzarny> maybe its only quad in opipc2 because of that?
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<MY123_> KotCzarny: quite cold actually
<MY123_> at 16nm
<KotCzarny> nice
<MY123_> UEFI Secure Boot exploit release imminent :p
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<MY123> KotCzarny: I don't recommend buying ARM64 HW right now
<KotCzarny> not going to, for my needs a20/h3 suffices
<MY123> (more like strongly discourage)
<KotCzarny> though 8cores look nice
<KotCzarny> especially if you say its done in better process
<MY123> KotCzarny: Windows on ARM64, if rs1 is decided(not done yet), will be RTMed next month
<MY123> it has x86_32 and x64 binary app support and OEMs love it
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<MY123> (so a lot of hardware, in all form factors)
<KotCzarny> hmm, are you saying its running x86 binaries on arm?
<MY123> KotCzarny: yep, both x86 and x64 binaries
<KotCzarny> is it doing some jit/translation of the functions?
<MY123> KotCzarny: yep, it's a JIT
<MY123> it's the third shot at Windows on ARM, and it's going to be ARM *Server* this time :)
<KotCzarny> if they get mali4xx drivers it will be a hit for sure
<MY123> if ARM64 Server is deemed not a failure, desktop and laptop support will be released on rs3
<KotCzarny> ;)
<MY123> KotCzarny: Midguard is supported, no idea about the Mali-400, but seems not ;)
<KotCzarny> hehe
<MY123> KotCzarny: I'm on the RC1 :p
<MY123> KotCzarny: they added *x86_64* support in rs2, which is in beta
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<MY123> they may release the rs1 support next month, with x86_32 compat only
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<tkaiser> KotCzarny: Why are you talking about 8 cores?
<KotCzarny> tkaiser: because of the roadmap link?
<KotCzarny> h5 is in octa core category on thatpic
<tkaiser> KotCzarny: Alright, then this is reality, a picture from last year ;) I posted a link to a comment instead
<MY123> KotCzarny: can you get a Hikey board with a Kirin SoC, or you really want Allwinner?
<MY123> the Hikey is available right now, and is in stock
<KotCzarny> MY123: my next sbc will have fast sata (for now bpi-m1 suffices)
<MY123> buy an AMD Seattle miniATX board outright then
<KotCzarny> tkaiser: drat, didnt look at the article date :/
<MY123> has a full sized PCIe 16x slot
<KotCzarny> MY123: AND ~5W power envelope?
<MY123> KotCzarny: 25W power envelope, at 2.5GHz
<KotCzarny> its always on home box, so i need as low power as it can get
<MY123> 8-core Cortex A57s
<KotCzarny> um, correction, bpi-r1
<KotCzarny> ;)
<MY123> I leave my x86_64 system on 24/7
<MY123> will probably be replaced by ARM64 fairly soon
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<KotCzarny> a20's bonus is free ups-like feature with 3$ 18650
<KotCzarny> and being lowpower device its enough for good few hours
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<rellla> tkaiser, may you do some clarifying on http://www.cnx-software.com/2015/04/15/allwinner-h-series-ott-soc-roadmap-adds-h5-and-h2-processors/ due to the reverse engineering effort of the video engine?
<rellla> oh. this comments were from 2015 ... :)
<rellla> so maybe forget it :p
<KotCzarny> yeah, i got mislead too (early here)
<sW`> MY123: is there some article about that x84/x64 JIT on ARM or it's "internal" information?
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<MY123> sW`: MS internal, I get those builds myself, some journalists also tweet about the builds :)
<sW`> ok, thanks :)
<MY123> the NDA isn't really strong, classified as imminent release
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<luoyi> wens: long time not see. I've made a bpi m1+ dedicated DAC board : http://imgur.com/a/cvKIl
<luoyi> it just sounds good. wait for the i2s driver mainline release now .
<KotCzarny> it ate all your gpio pins?
<luoyi> KotCzarny: I can use another type 2x20 pin jack expose all the gpio. the pic is just a prototype.
<KotCzarny> uhum
<KotCzarny> are needed pins spread or can be made into smaller board?
<luoyi> and I find the a20's keyboard gpio can't be accessable easily from bpi.
<luoyi> I want attach a matrix keyboard to it
<luoyi> KotCzarny: it use pin 2/6/ and 35/33/31/29
<KotCzarny> so ~6pins + 2 pins for power
<luoyi> yes.
<wens> luoyi: i2s is in 4.8-rc1
<luoyi> 5V and gnd. mclk/bclk/lrck/sdo
<luoyi> wens: and the parent clock bug is fixed in the 4.7 ?
<wens> i think so
<wens> uhm, who said they had a a31 mele that could be used to test line out?
<luoyi> line out ?
<wens> luoyi: the a31 codec has headphone and lineout, 2 outputs
<wens> well, 3, if you count the one for the phoneset
<luoyi> so A31 integrated a dac chip in it ?
<luoyi> I'm upgrading 4.7 now, hope the i2s and dts can still work
<wens> luoyi: all the SoCs, excluding A80/A83T, have internal codecs
<wens> we already support the one in sun[457]i
<luoyi> and the internal bus is also i2s , right ?
<wens> luoyi: no
<wens> luoyi: internally i2s is only on a33 i think
<wens> don't quite remember
<wens> probably the newer socs
<wens> the old ones are just direct dma into the codec
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<luoyi> ok. 4.7 is ok now. parent clock bug is fixed. but ffmpeg refuse decode some ape file now
<luoyi> it reports: ffmpeg/ape: Incorrect extradata
<KotCzarny> decode to .wav file?
<KotCzarny> might be unrelated / buggy file?
<KotCzarny> or try different app toplay audio
<wens> sounds more like an issue with your file
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<iwh> anyone know how much power a BPI-M3 can supply to USB, if you use a 5v/3A input? i don't wanna cook the board, but I want to know if I can draw like 500mA for 5400rpm hard drive
<Mr__Anderson> iwh: have a look here
<Mr__Anderson> that's the best (and probably the only) way to reliably use a HD with the BPI-M3
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<buZz> Mr__Anderson: i thought most reliable way was to use HDD over NFS
<buZz> :D
<KotCzarny> i just use separate wire for my hdd
<KotCzarny> ie. one power brick, but powering sbc and hdd independently
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<iwh> yeah i'm planning to use an externally powered HD
<iwh> I presume that a 3.5" hard drive case will have its own 5v power supply and not actually try to draw the 500mA of 5v over USB
<iwh> at least an old one I had did, not sure about the one I have now
<KotCzarny> 3.5" hdd requires 12v, i just use powerbrickthat provides twovoltages
<KotCzarny> so 5v to the board and 5v/12v to the hdd
<KotCzarny> one nice point of that setup is that i can connect 12v monitor too ;)
<iwh> KotCzarny, my HD enclosure only has a 12v input unlike my old one which had a dual 5v/12v input.... so either the dc from 12 to 5 is inside the case itself or it draws from USB
<KotCzarny> i connect hdd directly
<KotCzarny> ie. via sata,not usb
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<iwh> oic... I think I should have cables for that
<KotCzarny> and this is my power brick
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<iwh> yeah that's pretty overkill for a power supply
<iwh> 5v/8A and 12v 4A
<KotCzarny> nope
<KotCzarny> hdd requires some power for spinup
<KotCzarny> also, with more hungry boards you need 3A on 5v already, which leaves little for attached devices
<iwh> yeah I don't fault you on the 12v but lol at the 5v
<KotCzarny> and you can add 12V based display without additionalpower brick
<KotCzarny> so its about how many additional devices you connect
<KotCzarny> for example you might want to power network switch from the same power to resuce cable clutter
<KotCzarny> *reduce
<iwh> fair enough
<KotCzarny> i've put that power brick, sbc, network switch and 2 hdds in pc case i had lying around. works nicely
<KotCzarny> and no clutter on the desk ;)
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<KotCzarny> and if i wanted to add anything else, there is still space/power available
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<iwh> gotta flee. good conversation.
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<apritzel> montjoie: As I think you were interested in this: Ethernet seems to work out of the box on the BananaPi M64
<apritzel> montjoie: not really stress tested, but I could ssh in and did some apt-get without issues
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<MoeIcenowy> apritzel, apritzel1: Maybe you can try clock calibration on BPi M64
<MoeIcenowy> and where did you apply for the trial board?
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<apritzel> MoeIcenowy: did you see that clock calibration is only supposed to work on eMMC2?
<apritzel> I will give it a go later this week
<MoeIcenowy> apritzel: according to the user manual
<MoeIcenowy> the first calibration reg is on mmc 0/1/2
<MoeIcenowy> but the second is only on mmc2
<MoeIcenowy> And how will the SCPI regulator interface be?
<MoeIcenowy> (and for r-pinctrl maybe I will add a property to protect RSB from being detached
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<tkaiser> Hehe, a parcel from FriendlyARM arrived. Let's get started with the octa-core H3 Nano cluster: http://kaiser-edv.de/tmp/k7ZNrB/Nano_Cluster.jpg
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<tkaiser> MoeIcenowy: Send an email to judyhuang@banana-pi.com
<KotCzarny> cute
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<MoeIcenowy> who knows how to change the solution for HDMI in mainline kernel and U-Boot?
<wens> HDMI is not supported in mainline
<MoeIcenowy> What about U-Boot?
<wens> hence you cannot change the resolution
<MoeIcenowy> Can I have the resolution changed in U-Boot?
<wens> you could look at the code, though iirc there's no way to change it
<wens> it just selects one of the standard HDTV resolutions that your monitor supports
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<MoeIcenowy> yes, no way.
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<cnxsoft> tkaiser you lucky boy you also got their custom heatsinks.
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<tkaiser> cnxsoft: They delayed my package to include them :)
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<montjoie> apritzel1: thanks I just received my bpi M64 so I will test it
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<iwh> is it typical for banana-pi.org CD images not to match their listed MD5sum?
<iwh> referencing 2016-07-12-raspbian-lite-bpi-m3.img today
<iwh> neither the zip nor the .img matches the listed md5sum
<tkaiser> iwh: They don't care that much about such unimportant details
<iwh> >such unimportant details
* iwh stabs banana-pi.org in the face
<tkaiser> A year ago they did not provide any checksums at all. Now most of the times correct ones. Everyone should be happy
<DaQatz> Checksums are one of those things that should be correct, or nor provided at all.
<iwh> it's not the first time I've had wrong checksums from them. And md5 -- come on!!!!
<DaQatz> Not having some right completely defeats the purpose
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<DaQatz> In fact it kinda hurts things being that people will not trust the files
<tkaiser> They did not automate this stuff, generally don't care about such stuff and then the website is done by a student in the US
<tkaiser> So it's already great if most of the times information happens to be correct when hitting bananapi.org
<codekipper> wens: that was me!...but the Mele I7 seems to uses the headphone pins for it's AV connector.
<iwh> kind of like when they put a microUSB power supply input that bottlenecks the amperage that can feed the CPU and results in unnecessary throttling?
<tkaiser> iwh: And it can also happen that they provide OS images that are 16GB uncompressed and advertised as being eMMC ready (8 GB on their boards)
<iwh> sweet
<tkaiser> iwh: Wrong: Micro USB leads to freezes not to throttling. When you put a heatsink on a Micro USB equipped BPi M3 you only ensure that freezes/crashes happen more often :)
<iwh> awesome. i love that they sold packages that included microUSB + heatsink + 5v fan
<tkaiser> iwh: And be prepared that an image that has a size of 16 GB has one partition that is 4GB in size and filled to 99% when you boot the first time
<iwh> sweet
<tkaiser> Apart from that the hardware is crap anyway :)
<iwh> i have NO CLUE how they produce even moderately functioning ISO files and hardware, given their incompetence
<tkaiser> Slowest USB-SATA bridge in the world and only 1 USB host port used to connect the two USB receptacles and the USB-to-SATA bridge
<DaQatz> Oh god that is comically bad
<buZz> sad timez
<iwh> why care about that when it has a gigabit ethernet connection, tkaiser? you can overlook something as insignificant as that for a GIGABIT ethernet connection
<iwh> i mean, if it actually functions to spec, you could use virtual interfaces and make the thing into a firewall!
<tkaiser> iwh: Since A20 based Bananas do it better/equal, cost less, have better software/support, way better I/O bandwidth, don't overheat...
<iwh> i'm not arguing with you. the M3 is crap.
<tkaiser> iwh: Before I would buy one Banana Pi M3 I would buy 2 OPi Plus 2E (literally and for less ;)
<KotCzarny> twice the fun, half the troubles
<iwh> i bought a case with my m3 and it falls apart. I literally have to tape it together.
<KotCzarny> iwh: wanna see my orange case?
<iwh> just to set it down. official acrylic case.
<iwh> KotCzarny, no.
<KotCzarny> self made!
<iwh> KotCzarny, i've used electrical tape cases on beagle bone blacks
<KotCzarny> accomodates for two oranges, power brick and probably second set ofthose ;)
<KotCzarny> its big, black, and red leds shine through the holes
<iwh> ooOOOOooo
<tkaiser> iwh: If you want to have a laugh: http://www.s-config.com/banana-pi-m3-walk-away/
<KotCzarny> ;)
<wens> codekipper: hmm, bummer
<iwh> i bought a Banana-pi.org BPI-M1+ and returned it because the 5v gpio (and sata power) didn't work. in addition, the acrylic case broke in three places as I removed the plastic film
<KotCzarny> acrylic case is nicelooking, but utterly prone to cracking
<buZz> KotCzarny: the cracking odds make acrylic look totally notnice to me
<buZz> 'why such a shitty case, couldnt you afford real material'
<KotCzarny> buzz, but you can see through! shiny!
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<buZz> KotCzarny: PC would be a better material if you value such properties
<buZz> vs PMMA
<buZz> but costs more, so they just give the equivalent of a cardboard box
<buZz> 'yay'
<iwh> they told me to mail it back with a tracking number. I told them $55 with a tracking number or $10 without. they said without. The day after I mailed it, they told me to make sure to take a picture of the box at the post office. luckily, I had. they refunded me two months later and the $10 mailing fee another two months later.
<KotCzarny> they could've just used some rubber suspenders to not let metal force crack thematerial
<iwh> I can only guess what the banana pi 4.0 will be: "Lets solder two recycled CPUs to a piece of cardboard hand painted with metalic ink!"
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<iwh> they'll have less return requests because people will just say "fuck it" and toss it in the garbage
<iwh> but at least the MD5sums will match the .img files
<KotCzarny> iwh, why bother
<KotCzarny> those images are crap anyway
<buZz> iwh: lol 4 months
<wens> the opi+ 2e case is even easier to crack though
<KotCzarny> thebest one would be made from a block of metal
<KotCzarny> but its also most expensive/hardest to do properly
<iwh> KotCzarny, yeah but if they KNOW that the boards are just recycled CPUs soldered to cardboard, they won't have to ATTEMPT to make the .img files bootable, so they can just use stock image files
<iwh> and copy/paste the md5sum from the developer's sites
<wens> KotCzarny: stamped metal would be cheaper, but probably still more expensive than plastic
<iwh> or they can copy / paste a portion of the sha256sum and list it as the md5sum
<iwh> i'd buy their stock
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<wens> iwh: stock?
<tkaiser> wens: Raspbian image for Raspberries? ;)
<iwh> $0.25 for two random recycled CPUs, $0.25 for acid washing the CPU label, $0.00001 for laser engraving a new label on the CPU, $0.0001 for the cardboad backing, $0.25 for metalic ink, $0.10 for two USB ports, $0.05 for solder, $0.05 for website bandwidth.... profit: $69 per device sold
<iwh> wens, stock in their company.... not their product
<wens> i don't think you can get recycled CPUs for $0.25 :p
<buZz> sure you can
<buZz> how many kg of pentium2s do you want
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<KotCzarny> buzz, do they work?
<buZz> 'pulled from a working system' it says
<buZz> ;)
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<iwh> wens, you'd be surprised how cheap and plentiful recycled components are in China
<iwh> i've spent time in china
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<iwh> they pull them from the system, remove the old solder, straighten the pins, and re-laser the label
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<jelly> tkaiser, the author was so angry he couldn't English properly > [...] knowing that the amperage on a cel-phone based USB cable can fluctuate greatly in terms of amperage.
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<tkaiser> jelly: well, my English is also not the best. But I would insert 'voltage' instead ;)
<jelly> "they mostly come out at night, mostly"
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<KotCzarny> well, voltage and amperage are related via ohm's law
<KotCzarny> so its not that much incorrect ;)
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<willmore> KotCzarny, only in Ohmic circuits. :)
<willmore> Which a power supply isn't.
* willmore starts muttering about Norton and Thevenin equivalents...
<KotCzarny> lies. i can measure resistance on my power supply!
<willmore> Yeah, like you can drink lava. But you can only do it once.
<willmore> I have to agree with that article, there is no good solution for people who want an SBC with a good SATA port.
<tkaiser> KotCzarny: The relationship between voltage and amperage regarding the most crappy way to power an SBC is like this, isn't it: The more amperage the device needs the less voltage available gets with shitty cables since ohm's law?
<KotCzarny> if we look at the cable's/port characteristic, yes
<KotCzarny> but bigger issue is crappy psu (which lowers voltage on higher amperage)
<KotCzarny> which comes from bad internal design,and not just resistance
<tkaiser> So providing a Micro USB jack is encouraging users to do it wrong twice: Combine a crappy USB cable (read as: most of them) with a crappy phone charger and you're done.
<KotCzarny> yup
<KotCzarny> not to mention noise/instability of those cheap phone chargers
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<lns2345> hi, trying to boot a mainline kernel on a h3 board i get no output on uart0. u-boot works fine. any advice on how to proceed?
<lns2345> (4.8-rc1)
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<apritzel> lns2345: do you have a "console=ttyS0,115200n8" on the command line?
<apritzel> lns2345: do you load and specify the DT correctly?
<apritzel> have you tried "earlycon=uart,mmio32,0x1c28000" on the command line?
<lns2345> i'm trying without a dtb for now, expecting to be able to see the initial kernel output. is that wrong?
<apritzel> but both console and earlycon depend on DT
<apritzel> upstream kernels desperately need a DT
<apritzel> lns2345: the command line is in the DT, so ...
<apritzel> you can hack it somehow, but you need a DT anyway sooner or later, so it doesn't help
<lns2345> but shouldn't the initial kernel output show up even w/o the dtb? i get nothing after u-boots "Starting kernel..."
<apritzel> that's correct
<apritzel> a normal kernel outputs something via earlycon, which it reads from the commandline, which is in the DT
<apritzel> so no DT, no output
<apritzel> how would a kernel know where to find the serial otherwise
<lns2345> what if setting the command with "setenv bootargs" in u-boot?
<lns2345> command line
<apritzel> U-Boot writes the command line into the DT ;-)
<lns2345> ahaa :) got it thx
<apritzel> you can hardcode _one_ UART into the kernel ("kernel low level debugging messages" in menuconfig) for very early output
<apritzel> but that is only for debugging and makes your kernel crash on any other machine
<longsleep> mhm Firefox 48 is still extremely unstable on arm64 ..
<apritzel> longsleep: 1st world problems ;-)
<longsleep> apritzel: yeah i know :P
<apritzel> I am already happy if MMC works without corruption ...
<apritzel> longsleep: given the amount on arm64 desktops out there, you are probably the _one_ user ;-)
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<longsleep> apritzel: yes it seems like that :) - i am still searching for a reason to bother with X11 on Pine64
* longsleep still have not found one
<longsleep> Firefox works much better when run in gdb ..
<longsleep> someone even shipped a wrapper script, firefox -g just runs it in gdb - awesome stuff
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<KotCzarny> lol?
<longsleep> Well i can reproduce the crash, just opne up the Netflix login page :P
<longsleep> i wanted to see if the Adobe DRM module would get downloaded on arm64 - anyone got an idea about that?
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