<TheLinuxBug>
pft Orange Pi PC likes to overheat huh
<TheLinuxBug>
was running android and it just pukes playing 1080p like my plus 2e
<TheLinuxBug>
assume same dram issue
<TheLinuxBug>
weee
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<Qatz>
How's support for odroid c2?
<TheLinuxBug>
what type of support?
<Qatz>
Like the mali gfx and 64 bit kernel?
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<TheLinuxBug>
Qatz: just curious why your not asking that in #odroid where you would likely get better answers, Odroid products are not allwinner ;p
<TheLinuxBug>
but yes they have pretty decent support
<TheLinuxBug>
not mainline
<TheLinuxBug>
but the images they provide both Android and Ubuntu have GPU acceleration enabled
<TheLinuxBug>
in fact their Ubuntu images has GPU accelerated Chrome even
<TheLinuxBug>
Their Android image is pretty sweet
<TheLinuxBug>
has CEC support and is very smooth experience
<TheLinuxBug>
Seems chnaging Android images has corrected my issue with DRAM, this image must have lower dram settings
<TheLinuxBug>
much more stable
<TheLinuxBug>
im actually suprised
<TheLinuxBug>
when not overheating this Orange Pi PC ias actually kinda impressive for what it is
<TheLinuxBug>
lol
<TheLinuxBug>
oof course as soon as I say that it starts to overheat
<TheLinuxBug>
(facepalm)
<TheLinuxBug>
ahh weird maybe not
<TheLinuxBug>
looks like hardware decoder had issues with video stream
<TheLinuxBug>
and it reverted to sw decoding
<TheLinuxBug>
switched it back looks to be ok again
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<Qatz>
Orange pi's look nice, seems pi3 and them have overheating issues. Interested in getting an arm64 not sure when to get yet. Want to play with arm64 asm.
<Qatz>
arm asm is so nice and clean
<TheLinuxBug>
Well Orange Pi is ok as long as the image you are using can have DRAm settings manipulated
<TheLinuxBug>
they set it to 672 by default which isn't good for all boards
<TheLinuxBug>
in Android that is
<Qatz>
hmm
<TheLinuxBug>
you use something like Armbian it works pretty awesome
<TheLinuxBug>
These images I am testing today for Orange Pi PC actually arn't too bad
<TheLinuxBug>
but still had some overheating/DRAM issues on 1080p video on one of the two
<Qatz>
So many boards seem to use such old kernels
<TheLinuxBug>
but I am thinking that this other one I tried only uses 1 cpu core
<TheLinuxBug>
Right because ARM developed the firmware blobs for use with things like graphics and such
<TheLinuxBug>
and are not open sourcing the drivers
<Qatz>
Yeha
<Qatz>
yeah*
<Qatz>
Tis sad
<TheLinuxBug>
linux-sunxi is working on that though
<Qatz>
Yep
<TheLinuxBug>
slowly the mainline process is getting better
<Qatz>
That's why I poke my nose in here first
<Qatz>
Yeah arm mainline is kinda weak atm
<Qatz>
But getting better
<TheLinuxBug>
well for Odroid I get the feeling they are waiting on Samsung and their chip vendors to help with mainlining
<TheLinuxBug>
I think they said they weren't gonna puch for it them selves per se
<TheLinuxBug>
but would try and help some
* Qatz
nods.
<TheLinuxBug>
still the images they provide are pretty stables and run nicely
<vagrantc>
odroid-c* are amlogic based, not exynos ... or does Samsung own amlogic?
<TheLinuxBug>
depends which board you are talking about
<Qatz>
The c2 is amlogic with mali 450
<TheLinuxBug>
XU4 is samsung
<TheLinuxBug>
well if someone was here they would probably say the chips are made for samsung by another chip vendor
<TheLinuxBug>
but I forget what it is
<TheLinuxBug>
but I saw in odroid channel they were talking about samsung's mainlining efforts for the chip on XU4
<TheLinuxBug>
I don't know what will come of Amlogic boards
<Qatz>
The XU4 has a lot of kick
<TheLinuxBug>
re: Xu4
<TheLinuxBug>
[20:39] <memeka> 4.7 from where?
<TheLinuxBug>
[20:39] <deivid___> the samsung blog gimme a sec
<FergusL>
Hi, how can I find a complete ARM linux toolchain for H3? including common headers like alsa sound ?
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<charly1>
Hello, i do some test on a bananapi M3 and an armbian image, the hdmi output is fixed on 1920x1024 ; that nice but it's to high for the small 7" display i would like to use ; how i can change the hdmi output resolution ?
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<charly1>
Hi FergusL, are you locking on http://www.armbian.com if your board is on ; you can download the all tools to rebuild yourself the full system
<FergusL>
charly1: hi, yes I got my image from there, but I only want to do developpment on the board, I'd like to avoid building eeeeeverything!
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<charly1>
FergusL: ok, me for small development, i install directly on the board tools i need from debian depots ( building directly on board ), it's not very clean but it's easy to do ( apt-get install ..... ) ; for something bigger, i thinking in armbian tools to rebuild system you have everything you need build your application
<FergusL>
Yes you're right that makes sense... I have also installed gcc on the system
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<charly1>
to start easy, install on your board gcc, make, linux-headers and *-dev packets your application need
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<plaes>
or create a local chroot with qemu
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<FergusL>
Hi IgorPec7, I get it you must be Igor Pecovnik? I am on Mint 17.3 based 14.04. It fails in common.sh at line 214, it doesn't find arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc though I do have it
<FergusL>
also it seems it finds a syntax error in the awk command "BEGIN{exit ! ( < 5.3)}"
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<rambler44>
Does anyone know if it's safe to update my packages from jessie to stretch?
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<rambler44>
I have been trying for some time to get container-nspawn to work, but arrives at the conclusion that systemd in jessie is just too outdated. It's lacking features that can be found in newer systemd, and upon trying to access my container it fails making pseudo TTY
<rambler44>
version 215 and I would need at least version 226
<charly1>
Rambler44: i can playing with apt preferences
<rambler44>
I just asked the people in #debian and they told me new systemd has been backported, presumably due to these issues
<rambler44>
So seems like I'm in luck?
<rambler44>
charly1, well you would run into dependency issues getting packages from stretch without upgrading everything
<rambler44>
I know that too well
<charly1>
Rambler44 the file "preferences" in /etc/apt/ can specify witch one packets from witch one origin
<rambler44>
Yeah, but let's presume we want to port over the package "nginx" so you get the latest h2 module and some additional features not found in the version jessie has
<rambler44>
that would potentially trigger upgrading to new perl, python, etc
<rambler44>
which in turn could break something else
<rambler44>
Last time I tried it refused to use the old version I already had
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<charly1>
yes, you must specify in your preferences files the main packet but you need and with all dependencies needed by the main packet
<rambler44>
Yeah, but installing for example the new dependency perl, would not overwrite the old one? No, wait, it would have to
<rambler44>
Because they can't exist at the same location
<rambler44>
so my idea was to play is safe and use container-nspawn
<rambler44>
this way it would not touch my legacy jessie install, and I'd be able to run what I want
<rambler44>
However, due to outdated systemd, accessing TTY is impossible, so I'd have to run 2x SSH servers or access console only
<rambler44>
which can only be done if you start the session through systemd-nspawn (without running it as service) and would, in turn, have to be in a terminal multiplexer
<rambler44>
This just seems overly, well, how should I say it... unnecessary?
<rambler44>
A solution to this which I just discovered is to snag updated systemd over jessie-backports
<rambler44>
or just go the good old chroot instead
<charly1>
the best solution is maybe use a virtualmachine or chroot to test different version
<TheLinuxBug>
KotCzarny: well I have been trying to patch the fex into one of the orange Pi PC images for the Pi Plus 2e, the image boots but has no wifi/ethernet cause the fex is different. My first attempt yielded a non-booting sdcard :( was following: https://codearetoy.wordpress.com/2016/01/12/orangepi-pc-android-display-on-dvi-monitor/ but I am curious now if the same uboot etc are used on plus 2e cause when I wrote the patched boot and fex to card it won't bo
<TheLinuxBug>
gonna have to get out my UART and hook it up
<TheLinuxBug>
to find out whats going on
<TheLinuxBug>
I have a guess its probably about some mismatch
<TheLinuxBug>
but been debating if I can just use the uboot from Armbian, wasn't sure if they are the same or different on Android?
<TheLinuxBug>
as in if I have an image with Armbian burnt can I dd the uboot and fex off it onto a card with android and have it boot?
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<rambler44>
Keep getting "specified group 'sunxi-fel' unknown" during boot, I don't use fel
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<rambler44>
You were right charly1
<rambler44>
I attempted to update systemd, and it has resulted in selinux and more systemd errors
<rambler44>
yeah it has updated, but I'd not trust this
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<charly1>
Rambler44: i'm here
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<rambler44>
Nice to see you here
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<charly1>
you not trust systemd ?
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<TheLinuxBug>
so finally got new fex written and card booting
<TheLinuxBug>
but still no ethernet
<TheLinuxBug>
arg
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<charly1>
Hello, i do some test on a bananapi M3 and an armbian image, the hdmi output is fixed on 1920x1024 ; that nice but it's to high for the small 7" display i would like to use ; how i can change the hdmi output resolution ?
<KotCzarny>
TheLinuxBug: i would beinterested in theresult of your experiments (ie.having mainlineuboot booting android and maybe dual booting to sdcard on some condition)
<TheLinuxBug>
well this is just werid
<TheLinuxBug>
I figured out supposedly how to patch and get the uboot and fex update
<TheLinuxBug>
however
<TheLinuxBug>
the images which boot and can't find networking
<TheLinuxBug>
still boot and find no networking
<TheLinuxBug>
I would have figured the FEX would have corrected that between the Pi PC and Pi Plus 2e
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<TheLinuxBug>
it seems however the images are lacking the drivers
<TheLinuxBug>
so only way I can really accomplish this will be to compile a new kernel my self
<TheLinuxBug>
charly1: if you read on the site and actually I believe at first boot igor has written a tool for making changing hdmi resolution easy
<TheLinuxBug>
should be located in /root
<KotCzarny>
this might be cheapest night vision with added functionality available
<TheLinuxBug>
if you read the site you would see he documents it
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<TheLinuxBug>
eesh
<TheLinuxBug>
nice
<TheLinuxBug>
looks like one of the sdcards I was testing with just corrupted
<TheLinuxBug>
:(
<Wizzup>
How does a lipo work with olimex lime devices? I connected it, and it seems to be doing something (led on the board went on), but I cannot find it in /sys, nor did I see anythign in dmesg
<KotCzarny>
wizzup: maybe you used mainline kernel?
<KotCzarny>
ie.not olimex one?
<Wizzup>
I use mainline kernel
<Wizzup>
but it should work, no?
* Wizzup
lookies
<KotCzarny>
it works without any interface (assuming a20)
<Wizzup>
Aha
<KotCzarny>
but mainline doesnt have anything
<Wizzup>
And on A10?
<KotCzarny>
you can grab armbian'spatch
<KotCzarny>
they did some work toexpose knobs
<Wizzup>
I mean, if it doesn't blow up and 'works' on mainline, I don't care so much
<Wizzup>
As in, that's OK for me
* Wizzup
pulls power plug to see if the lipo works now
<Wizzup>
yeah, nice. Odd
<Wizzup>
didn't work before
<KotCzarny>
you can use that patch anyway to see some values reported
<willmore>
TheLinuxBug, get one of the uSD extenders. plug that in until it works and *leave it in*. Then plug/unplug a card into the socket of the extender.
<willmore>
$2 at aliexpress or so.
<willmore>
might need to do some 'eject /dev/blah' to make it work. uSD sockets can get pretty bitchy about not seeing card presence toggle when a card is changing.
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